Why the Republican War on Workers Rights Undermines the American Economy

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The battle has resumed in Wisconsin. The state supreme court has allowed Governor Scott Walker to strip bargaining rights from state workers.

Meanwhile, legislators in New Hampshire and officials in Missouri are attacking private unions, seeking to make the states so-called open shop where workers can get all the benefits of being union members without paying union dues. Needless to say this ploy undermines the capacity of unions to do much of anything. Other Republican governors and legislatures are following suit.

Republicans in Congress are taking aim at the National Labor Relations Board, which is likely to consider a relatively minor rule change allowing workers to vote on whether to unionize soon after a union has been proposed, rather than allowing employers to delay the vote for years. Many employers have used the delaying tactics to retaliate against workers who try to organize, and intimidate others into rejecting a union.

This war on workers rights is an assault on the middle class, and it is undermining the American economy.

The American economy cant get out of neutral until American workers have more money in their pockets to buy what they produce. And unions are the best way to give them the bargaining power to get better pay.

For three decades after World War II I call it the Great Prosperity wages rose in tandem with productivity. Americans shared the gains of growth, and had enough money to buy what they produced.

Thats largely due to the role of labor unions. In 1955, over a third of American workers in the private sector were unionized. Today, fewer than 7 percent are.

With the decline of unions has come the stagnation of American wages. More and more of the total income and wealth of America has gone to the very top. The middle classs purchasing power has depended on mothers going into paid work, everyone working longer hours, and, finally, the middle class going deep into debt, using their homes as collateral.

But now all these coping mechanisms are exhausted and were living with the consequence.

Some say the Great Prosperity was an anomaly. Americas major competitors lay in ruins. We had the world to ourselves. According to this view, theres no going back.

But this view is wrong. If you want to see the same basic bargain we had then, take a look at Germany now.

Germany is growing much faster than the United States. Its unemployment rate is now only 6.1 percent (were now at 9.1 percent).

Whats Germanys secret? In sharp contrast to the decades of stagnant wages in America, real average hourly pay has risen almost 30 percent there since 1985. Germany has been investing substantially in education and infrastructure.

How did German workers do it? A big part of the story is German labor unions are still powerful enough to insist that German workers get their fair share of the economys gains.

Thats why pay at the top in Germany hasnt risen any faster than pay in the middle. As David Leonhardt reported in the New York Times recently, the top 1 percent of German households earns about 11 percent of all income a percent that hasnt changed in four decades.

Contrast this with the United States, where the top 1 percent went from getting 9 percent of total income in the late 1970s to more than 20 percent today.

The only way back toward sustained growth and prosperity in the United States is to remake the basic bargain linking pay to productivity. This would give the American middle class the purchasing power they need to keep the economy going.

Part of the answer is, as in Germany, stronger labor unions unions strong enough to demand a fair share of the gains from productivity growth.

The current Republican assault on workers rights continues a thirty-year war on American workers wages. That long-term war has finally taken its toll on the American economy.

Its time to fight back.

By: Robert Reich

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"We're going to crush labor as a political entity"
Grover Norquist - Republican economic guru and co-author of the GOP's 'Contract with America'
 
The battle has resumed in Wisconsin. The state supreme court has allowed Governor Scott Walker to strip bargaining rights from state workers.

Wrong. The state Supreme Court ruled that the LEGISLATURE is allowed to create LAWS. While it was Walker's initiative, it was the LEGISLATURE (duly elected by the populace of WI) that passed the law. Walker signed it into law. It's called democracy. Look it up.

Second, the workers still have the right to bargain. They just have to do it with the proper second party.... the VOTERS. Instead of being able to bribe politicians, they now have to appeal to the rest of the tax payers if they feel they have earned a raise or better benefits.

Meanwhile, legislators in New Hampshire and officials in Missouri are attacking private unions, seeking to make the states so-called open shop where workers can get all the benefits of being union members without paying union dues. Needless to say this ploy undermines the capacity of unions to do much of anything. Other Republican governors and legislatures are following suit.

Yeah, so very evil. How dare those states allow workers to CHOOSE rather than be FORCED to join a union.

Republicans in Congress are taking aim at the National Labor Relations Board, which is likely to consider a relatively minor rule change allowing workers to vote on whether to unionize soon after a union has been proposed, rather than allowing employers to delay the vote for years. Many employers have used the delaying tactics to retaliate against workers who try to organize, and intimidate others into rejecting a union.

The average time was 57 days. The bullshit excuse that employers use 'delaying tactics for years' and 'retaliation' is nothing short of a union propaganda excuse. To shorten it up to 3 weeks means the unions have plenty of time to share THEIR version of the pro's and con's of a union while the company only has three weeks. Obviously the unions are the ones that are trying to manipulate the system in their favor.

This war on workers rights is an assault on the middle class, and it is undermining the American economy.

LMAO... tell us... what 'rights' have the workers lost? HOW is it undermining the economy? The Boeing employees in Carolina would LOVE to hear your answer.

The American economy cant get out of neutral until American workers have more money in their pockets to buy what they produce. And unions are the best way to give them the bargaining power to get better pay.

The stupidity of the above shows that the author is nothing more than a union shill. Simply demanding more money is NOT going to spur economic growth.

To spur economic growth you need to remove as many future uncertainties as possible.

For three decades after World War II I call it the Great Prosperity wages rose in tandem with productivity. Americans shared the gains of growth, and had enough money to buy what they produced.

Yeah... tell us now... what exactly are workers not able to afford?

Thats largely due to the role of labor unions. In 1955, over a third of American workers in the private sector were unionized. Today, fewer than 7 percent are.

No question that unions played a MAJOR role in shaping protections for workers in the 20's-50's. They were crucial. No one is disputing that. But like the buggy maker, they are becoming obsolete for a reason.

With the decline of unions has come the stagnation of American wages. More and more of the total income and wealth of America has gone to the very top. The middle classs purchasing power has depended on mothers going into paid work, everyone working longer hours, and, finally, the middle class going deep into debt, using their homes as collateral.

People going into debt has much more to do with the 'I want everything now' mentality that people like you call 'rights' than due to poor conditions for workers.

But now all these coping mechanisms are exhausted and were living with the consequence.

Some say the Great Prosperity was an anomaly. Americas major competitors lay in ruins. We had the world to ourselves. According to this view, theres no going back.

No question we were the dominant power as a result of the desolation created in Europe during WWII. It is silly to think otherwise. Russia was only our counterpart as a Super Power due to military might.... not economic. Their lifeblood has been and likely will continue to be their vast natural resources.

But this view is wrong. If you want to see the same basic bargain we had then, take a look at Germany now.

Germany is growing much faster than the United States. Its unemployment rate is now only 6.1 percent (were now at 9.1 percent).

Whats Germanys secret? In sharp contrast to the decades of stagnant wages in America, real average hourly pay has risen almost 30 percent there since 1985. Germany has been investing substantially in education and infrastructure.

How did German workers do it? A big part of the story is German labor unions are still powerful enough to insist that German workers get their fair share of the economys gains.

Thats why pay at the top in Germany hasnt risen any faster than pay in the middle. As David Leonhardt reported in the New York Times recently, the top 1 percent of German households earns about 11 percent of all income a percent that hasnt changed in four decades.

Contrast this with the United States, where the top 1 percent went from getting 9 percent of total income in the late 1970s to more than 20 percent today.

The only way back toward sustained growth and prosperity in the United States is to remake the basic bargain linking pay to productivity. This would give the American middle class the purchasing power they need to keep the economy going.

Part of the answer is, as in Germany, stronger labor unions unions strong enough to demand a fair share of the gains from productivity growth.

No question Germany's economy is in pretty good shape on its own. I wonder... how well will they be doing when Greece finally defaults, followed by Portugal and possibly Spain in a domino chain reaction. How well will Germany (and France) survive when they lose all that money they have loaned those countries?
 
No conservative rebuttals?
Why bother....

Its like you claiming the world is flat and wanting someone to argue with you.....the premise of the whole post is bullshit, so why even respond...

The claim is that German workers are only going to work because their pay has risen 30%....what would they be doing if their pay was cut 30%, quit work, stay home and starve, stop living, go naked ?

Don't you see how stupid your logic is ?
 
Wrong. The state Supreme Court ruled that the LEGISLATURE is allowed to create LAWS. While it was Walker's initiative, it was the LEGISLATURE (duly elected by the populace of WI) that passed the law. Walker signed it into law. It's called democracy. Look it up.

Second, the workers still have the right to bargain. They just have to do it with the proper second party.... the VOTERS. Instead of being able to bribe politicians, they now have to appeal to the rest of the tax payers if they feel they have earned a raise or better benefits.



Yeah, so very evil. How dare those states allow workers to CHOOSE rather than be FORCED to join a union.



The average time was 57 days. The bullshit excuse that employers use 'delaying tactics for years' and 'retaliation' is nothing short of a union propaganda excuse. To shorten it up to 3 weeks means the unions have plenty of time to share THEIR version of the pro's and con's of a union while the company only has three weeks. Obviously the unions are the ones that are trying to manipulate the system in their favor.



LMAO... tell us... what 'rights' have the workers lost? HOW is it undermining the economy? The Boeing employees in Carolina would LOVE to hear your answer.



The stupidity of the above shows that the author is nothing more than a union shill. Simply demanding more money is NOT going to spur economic growth.

To spur economic growth you need to remove as many future uncertainties as possible.



Yeah... tell us now... what exactly are workers not able to afford?



No question that unions played a MAJOR role in shaping protections for workers in the 20's-50's. They were crucial. No one is disputing that. But like the buggy maker, they are becoming obsolete for a reason.



People going into debt has much more to do with the 'I want everything now' mentality that people like you call 'rights' than due to poor conditions for workers.



No question we were the dominant power as a result of the desolation created in Europe during WWII. It is silly to think otherwise. Russia was only our counterpart as a Super Power due to military might.... not economic. Their lifeblood has been and likely will continue to be their vast natural resources.



No question Germany's economy is in pretty good shape on its own. I wonder... how well will they be doing when Greece finally defaults, followed by Portugal and possibly Spain in a domino chain reaction. How well will Germany (and France) survive when they lose all that money they have loaned those countries?

This is the typical right wing corporate shill in action...based on utter ignorance, total lack of any shred of understanding of human nature and 'we are not worthy' worship of the elite.
 
This is the typical right wing corporate shill in action...based on utter ignorance, total lack of any shred of understanding of human nature and 'we are not worthy' worship of the elite.

ROFLMAO.... so what you are saying is that you have NO rebuttal for anything I wrote so you will instead spew forth your worthless straw man?
 
This is the typical right wing corporate shill in action...based on utter ignorance, total lack of any shred of understanding of human nature and 'we are not worthy' worship of the elite.

Thanks for saving me the typing.
 
Why bother....

Its like you claiming the world is flat and wanting someone to argue with you.....the premise of the whole post is bullshit, so why even respond...

The claim is that German workers are only going to work because their pay has risen 30%....what would they be doing if their pay was cut 30%, quit work, stay home and starve, stop living, go naked ?

Don't you see how stupid your logic is ?

No one claimed that they only go to work because...That just wasn't written anywhere. Try replying to the topic next time.
 
Carter was a democrat...he did the exact same thing with federal worker's unions. FDR another democrat said public employee unions:

"... Meticulous attention should be paid to the special relationships and obligations of public servants to the public itself and to the government. All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations ... The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for ... officials ... to bind the employer ... The employer is the whole people, who speak by means of laws enacted by their representatives ...

"Particularly, I want to emphasize my conviction that militant tactics have no place in the functions of any organization of government employees. Upon employees in the federal service rests the obligation to serve the whole people ... This obligation is paramount ... A strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent ... to prevent or obstruct ... Government ... Such action, looking toward the paralysis of Government ... is unthinkable and intolerable."

To get this in historical context, Congress enacted the landmark National Labor Relations Act ("Wagner Act") in 1935 - the Magna Carta of the American labor movement. It excluded federal, state and local employees. It created the National Labor Relations Board to enforce the rights of labor. Employers were legally obligated to bargain collectively with their employees. In 1937 in a Senate speech, Roosevelt intoned, "The denial or observance of this right means the difference between despotism and democracy." (One would be led to think that before 1935, America was not a democracy.)

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The usual specimens of Conservatardus Libertarianus seems to be hiding from the obvious conclusion.



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Translation: "yeah, I couldn't think of anything to rebut his comments either, so I too was going to spew forth a straw man"

I would love to reply to your long post above, but whenever I do, you can only see the last comment I make. All the comments inside your post blend in and you don't respond to them. I am unable to change the font. I have tried everything I can think of.
 
I would love to reply to your long post above, but whenever I do, you can only see the last comment I make. All the comments inside your post blend in and you don't respond to them. I am unable to change the font. I have tried everything I can think of.

Use quotes when you hit reply with quotes.... look at how the above is in between the two 'quotes' the backslash quote ends the quote, the quote without a backslash begins it. Just add those around my comments or simply type your complete response at the end of the entire thing. Whichever is easier for you.
 


Test reply. Please ignore.


I would love to reply to your long post above, but whenever I do, you can only see the last comment I make. All the comments inside your post blend in and you don't respond to them. I am unable to change the font. I have tried everything I can think of.

such intelligent comments. way to really destroy SF's points and make your own known. you spend more time trolling, insulting etc than actually discussing issues.

like i said, all you do is: i'm right, you're wrong, you're dumb etc...

you lack the intelligence to do anything more
 
Wrong. The state Supreme Court ruled that the LEGISLATURE is allowed to create LAWS. While it was Walker's initiative, it was the LEGISLATURE (duly elected by the populace of WI) that passed the law. Walker signed it into law. It's called democracy. Look it up.

Not Wrong. It was Walker's inititive and he signed it. No one said the legislature didn't pass it.
Second, the workers still have the right to bargain. They just have to do it with the proper second party.... the VOTERS. Instead of being able to bribe politicians, they now have to appeal to the rest of the tax payers if they feel they have earned a raise or better benefits.


Right. Each individual state worker has to appeal to the taxpayers. That should be effective.


Yeah, so very evil. How dare those states allow workers to CHOOSE rather than be FORCED to join a union.



The average time was 57 days. The bullshit excuse that employers use 'delaying tactics for years' and 'retaliation' is nothing short of a union propaganda excuse. To shorten it up to 3 weeks means the unions have plenty of time to share THEIR version of the pro's and con's of a union while the company only has three weeks. Obviously the unions are the ones that are trying to manipulate the system in their favor.


Retaliation by companies is hardly a new phenomonon.
LMAO... tell us... what 'rights' have the workers lost? HOW is it undermining the economy? The Boeing employees in Carolina would LOVE to hear your answer.

They have lost the right of collective bargaining.

The stupidity of the above shows that the author is nothing more than a union shill. Simply demanding more money is NOT going to spur economic growth.

Your entire post,neigh presence on this site makes you nothing more than a capitalist shill.

To spur economic growth you need to remove as many future uncertainties as possible.

To spur economic growth the middle class needs spending money.



Yeah... tell us now... what exactly are workers not able to afford?

Don't be a fool.

No question that unions played a MAJOR role in shaping protections for workers in the 20's-50's. They were crucial. No one is disputing that. But like the buggy maker, they are becoming obsolete for a reason.

No they are not. We have entered a new gilded age, unions are needed as much now as ever.

People going into debt has much more to do with the 'I want everything now' mentality that people like you call 'rights' than due to poor conditions for workers.

Right, like an education for their children.

No question we were the dominant power as a result of the desolation created in Europe during WWII. It is silly to think otherwise. Russia was only our counterpart as a Super Power due to military might.... not economic. Their lifeblood has been and likely will continue to be their vast natural resources.

No question. Yet in spite of an admittedly high top tox rate, great fortunes were made.


No question Germany's economy is in pretty good shape on its own. I wonder... how well will they be doing when Greece finally defaults, followed by Portugal and possibly Spain in a domino chain reaction. How well will Germany (and France) survive when they lose all that money they have loaned those countries?

Never mind the bullshit what ifs. How do you explain Germany's strong economy, despite paying a living wage? Why is that not possible here? Nevermind, I know why. Greed.
 
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