Why is Trump lying about the tax plan?

[Superfreak]

And that's a lie, SF - it will not cost him a fortune. Ergo, I was NOT lying.

But I'll have to remember that you're not "defending Trump." Fucking idiot.

Again idiot... if you want people to comment on that, why did you not post that? That too was not in your OP. That is a different comment all together. Saying it will hit the wealthy is accurate. Saying it will cost him a fortune is another.

Fucking moron.

 

[Micawber]

Why is Trump lying? LOL

 

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Again idiot... if you want people to comment on that, why did you not post that? That too was not in your OP. That is a different comment all together. Saying it will hit the wealthy is accurate. Saying it will cost him a fortune is another.

Fucking moron.

It was all part of the same comment. It was what he was saying - and since you went into hairsplitting mode, I brought it up, but the inference was clear as day for anyone else.

This is exhausting. I'm so tired of your insistence on remaining obtuse - your responses on this thread have almost nothing to do w/ the OP. You just hate hearing me call Trump a liar.

Well, he's lying. Sorry 'bout that. I'll try to stay quiet about from now on since pointing it out seems to really get under your skin.

 

[domer76]

I'll answer: yes. The estate tax change alone is a huge giveaway, but the top 1% also get 20% of the basic cuts.

The middle class gets a cut, too. This isn't my issue. I'm not saying it's "just for the rich." I just don't know why Trump has to lie about that aspect of it.

The last time we see Orangetweet’s returns, he pays $35 million or so in taxes. About $5 million without the AMT.

 

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Again idiot... if you want people to comment on that, why did you not post that? That too was not in your OP. That is a different comment all together. Saying it will hit the wealthy is accurate. Saying it will cost him a fortune is another.

Fucking moron.

How in the fuck is it "hitting the wealthy?"

SF - THE WEALTHY GET A TAX CUT. Both the income tax & the provisions about the estate tax. Christ.

 

[Superfreak]

It was all part of the same comment. It was what he was saying - and since you went into hairsplitting mode, I brought it up, but the inference was clear as day for anyone else.

This is exhausting. I'm so tired of your insistence on remaining obtuse - your responses on this thread have almost nothing to do w/ the OP. You just hate hearing me call Trump a liar.

Well, he's lying. Sorry 'bout that. I'll try to stay quiet about from now on since pointing it out seems to really get under your skin.

So again, you are inferring so that what he said = what you wanted him to say

 

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So again, you are inferring so that what he said = what you wanted him to say

Holy shite. He said it w/ the context that it would cost him a fortune.

And that, to you, is not a lie. Do not deny that now - that is the position you have staked throughout this thread. Congrats.

 

[Superfreak]

How in the fuck is it "hitting the wealthy?"

SF - THE WEALTHY GET A TAX CUT. Both the income tax & the provisions about the estate tax. Christ.

Yes moron, I understand they will get a cut. I have stated that several times. Why do you keep ignoring it? I understand you are extremely angry and full of rage these days, but do try reading what people write before you break down into a tantrum.

Again... with the current proposals, the burden will shift up not down. The top will pay a greater percentage of the federal income tax than they currently do.

 

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And just a reminder, everyone - SF is not defending Trump here.

 

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Yes moron, I understand they will get a cut. I have stated that several times. Why do you keep ignoring it? I understand you are extremely angry and full of rage these days, but do try reading what people write before you break down into a tantrum.

Again... with the current proposals, the burden will shift up not down. The top will pay a greater percentage of the federal income tax than they currently do.

So, it's "hitting the wealthy," AND they're getting more money out of it?

I'd love to be "hit" like that. Great call. So smart.

 

[Superfreak]

Holy shite. He said it w/ the context that it would cost him a fortune.

And that, to you, is not a lie. Do not deny that now - that is the position you have staked throughout this thread. Congrats.

Again... I am posting based off of YOUR posts. If you aren't being clear, then that is on you. You know you could still actually link us up to whatever speech it is that has your panties in a bunch today?

 

[Superfreak]

So, it's "hitting the wealthy," AND they're getting more money out of it?

I'd love to be "hit" like that. Great call. So smart.

You clearly are too full of rage to actually read what is written... and you wonder why people call you Desh 2

 

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Done here. After a lot of back & forth, me & SF - who is not defending Trump - have concluded that yes, Trump was lying, and yes, the wealthy are getting a big tax cut.

 

[countryboy]

I'll answer: yes. The estate tax change alone is a huge giveaway, but the top 1% also get 20% of the basic cuts.

The middle class gets a cut, too. This isn't my issue. I'm not saying it's "just for the rich." I just don't know why Trump has to lie about that aspect of it.

Lol, only in liberal lala land is people keeping their already taxed money a, "giveaway".

 

[Superfreak]

And just a reminder, everyone - SF is not defending Trump here.

Exactly... I am knocking down your pathetic inferences. Trying to explain to you how the tax plans would work. You on the other hand just want to express your hate and rage. You aren't actually interested in the tax code. You just want to infer things so that you can rage on.

 

[Superfreak]

Done here. After a lot of back & forth, me & SF - who is not defending Trump - have concluded that yes, Thing was lying, and yes, the wealthy are getting a big tax cut.

We have concluded that you did indeed lie. That everyone is getting a tax cut. That the wealthy with pay a greater percentage of federal income tax than they currently do.

Oh and that Thing has rage issues.

 

[Getin the ring]

So, it's "hitting the wealthy," AND they're getting more money out of it?

I'd love to be "hit" like that. Great call. So smart.

What do you have against people with money, the people with money that create jobs?

As long as you too get to keep more of your money,
and the "poor" people you champion will get to keep more of their money

ARE YOU REALLY THIS GOOFY

 

[Micawber]

We have concluded that you did indeed lie. That everyone is getting a tax cut. That the wealthy with pay a greater percentage of federal income tax than they currently do.

Oh and that Thing has rage issues.

False. Wealthy won't pay estate tax and their myriad closely held corporate shells will receive passthrough treatment relieving them of billions in tax obligations. That's what I read a couple weeks ago and posted here through the mouth
of some New Jersey billionaire. He also said Trump stood to save billions personally from his own tax plan.

 

[Superfreak]

He did it again in Missouri - he keeps saying that it's going to hurt him, and says his wealthy friends "aren't happy" with him because it's going to hit them so hard.

This is just factually not true. At least when Bush did his tax cut, he was straight-up about it - kept saying that if you pay taxes, you were getting a cut. Why can't Trump stand by what he's doing? I actually have no problem with cuts across the board in general, though I think Trump's plan is heavily skewed toward the wealthy. I think most Americans get that any tax cut will benefit the rich in some way.

It's just easy to disprove. This plan benefits Trump, and his wealthy friends, in a big way. It's basic math. Why does he lie about this kind of thing?

I'll answer: yes. The estate tax change alone is a huge giveaway, but the top 1% also get 20% of the basic cuts.

The middle class gets a cut, too. This isn't my issue. I'm not saying it's "just for the rich." I just don't know why Trump has to lie about that aspect of it.

Let's start w/ the estate tax. You know what the plan is there, right?

Also, do you understand where the cuts are? The top 1% are getting 20% of the cuts. And again - I'm not making a judgment on that in this thread. It's just a fact.

Why are you commenting on this thread if you don't know anything about Trump's tax proposal?

This. Is. Pathetic.

You need to listen to his comments in Missouri. It is abundantly clear in context that he's saying they won't like it because they do not get a tax cut.

Wow.

(sigh)

I'll link the details. But let's get this set first: is it your contention that the wealthy are not getting any tax cut?

Trump said that the plan will HURT HIM - and immediately followed by saying it was the same w/ his wealthy friends who "aren't happy" with him.

Am I posting during stupid hour or something? Are we not supposed to infer anything from that?

People say this all of the time on message boards, but you're smarter than that Freak. A lot of righties here are not, but you are. You've been kind of ridiculous since you started posting again - supposedly not defending Trump, but on a rampage against lefties when they start threads like this.

I just don't know how anyone familiar w/ the tax plan can defend Trump's statement that it HURTS him and that it makes his wealthy friends angry. It seems impossible.

He said it will "cost him a fortune."

Defend that. Fucking idiot.

How in the fuck is it "hitting the wealthy?"

SF - THE WEALTHY GET A TAX CUT. Both the income tax & the provisions about the estate tax. Christ.

Holy shite. He said it w/ the context that it would cost him a fortune.

And that, to you, is not a lie. Do not deny that now - that is the position you have staked throughout this thread. Congrats.

Done here. After a lot of back & forth, me & SF - who is not defending Trump - have concluded that yes, Trump was lying, and yes, the wealthy are getting a big tax cut.

See how many times Thing jumps around. yet not once did he link to the speech he was referring to? Constantly pretending that I had commented on anything other than HIS comments. Poor little thing. So full of rage.

 

[Superfreak]

False. Wealthy won't pay estate tax and their myriad closely held corporate shells will receive passthrough treatment relieving them of billions in tax obligations. That's what I read a couple weeks ago and posted here through the mouth
of some New Jersey billionaire. He also said Trump stood to save billions personally from his own tax plan.

Read what I actually wrote, not want you wanted me to have said.