Why does Trump stomp on his own team's talking points?

I can only go with what I see. Especially during the 2016 campaign, she had a very active public schedule, with pretty much daily appearances. During that time she seemed to display symptoms of illness no more often than one would expect for a typical person her age undergoing a stressful routine with huge amounts of opportunities for picking up viruses.

This actually reminds me a lot of what I've read about the 1996 campaign, when Bill Clinton repeatedly suffered from hoarseness, and Republican operatives floated the rumor that he had AIDS and was dying. Of course, now we know he's still around and active over twenty years later, but the point wasn't to offer a theory that would convince any reasonable people -- just something that would convince the conservative base.

As for Trump, he has long struck me as someone suffering from a progressive illness of some sort. He becomes easily confused and agitated, and visibly suffers in forums where some level of endurance is necessary, whether that's lengthy standing during a debate, or traveling from place to place without the use of a vehicle (such as during the events when other world leaders walk and he requires a golf cart to transport his bloated mass to the next location).



I have no idea what you mean.

You have no idea what I mean about the way Clinton dresses? Really? Hillary is wearing a brace. It is evident from many photos available to you on the Internet.

It is no secret that Hillary has suffered traumatic brain injuries and suffered from two blood clots in the brain. The first brain injury was in the '90'. Hillary wears blue lenses of the type worn by epileptics.

Please follow the link and enlarge the image. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Wdgq_H9kg...isas36IvQCK4B/s1600/HillaryMedicalRecords.jpg

Finally, I ask, isn't Hillary mortal? Is there some reason that she is immune to illness?
 
.... and he's telling guys like CNN Reporters to go fuck themselves.

I think that sums up his appeal to the right pretty much perfectly. It doesn't matter to them that he's the very opposite of most of the things they spent the last couple Democratic administrations pretending to believe in. It doesn't matter that he's vastly increased the deficit, or that he's greatly expanded the role of executive power, or that he's insulted the military or cheated on his wife, or all the other things they got so very good at whining about when it was a Democrat. All that really matters to the conservative base is if he upsets their perceived political enemies (not the Russians, but rather the American press as well as liberals and racial minorities). They enjoy the pain he causes, and if the cost of that is long-term harm to the nation, it's a cost they consider well worth paying. As long as liberals are unhappy, the world can burn.
 
Most people in the "real world" are very, very poorly read, and so they probably don't bring up Manafort because they're only vaguely aware of who he is. You could probably find a lot more people who could identify the winner of the last season of "America's Got Talent" than the VP, much less a former campaign chair in trouble for financial dealings they wouldn't understand without a ton of effort.


Apparently, especially the ones who form Kacper's friends group.

Many of the people I hang with, people from both sides of the political continuum, mention people like Manafort, Gates, Pence and the like.

Some people are more aware than others. Some people hand with people who are more aware than others.

Kacper says he has yet to hear someone "in the real world" (meaning the non-cyber non-media world, I suppose) say the name, Manafort.

Perhaps he ought work on being accepted into more intelligent, informed company...IF "more intelligent, informed company" would have him.
 
She’s a 70 year old woman?

No, she's covering up. Do you know of anyone else who dresses as she does? Have you seen the videos of Hillary being helped up and down steps and falling anyway?

We know she suffered traumatic brain injuries. We know she has had two blood clots.

I ask you the same question I asked Oneuli. Is there any reason that Hillary Clinton isn't subject to illness just like the rest of us?
 
You have no idea what I mean about the way Clinton dresses? Really? Hillary is wearing a brace.

Oh, I see -- you mean the bullet-proof vest she sometimes has under her top when in situations where one of the right-wing loons might take a pot-shot at her? That strikes me as a reasonable precaution.

It is no secret that Hillary has suffered traumatic brain injuries and suffered from two blood clots in the brain.

If so, it would have to be a brain injury that somehow managed not to noticeable impede physical function, since she's regularly pictured in public without any evident physical impairment, and also a brain injury that did nothing to impact her speech or her intellect, judging by the way she utterly demolished Trump in each of the debates. I'd be more concerned, if I were you, about what has gone wrong in Trump's brain. If you compare Trump's media appearances from a decade or two ago to today, the decline is breathtaking. He was always a blowhard and an ignoramus, devoid of a shred of moral sense, but he could carry a sentence from beginning to end without getting distracted, and he didn't use the crutch of endlessly repeating short stock phrases and filler words. I'm not sure if it was a stroke, dementia, or whether we're seeing the result of some sort of substance abuse, but something has gone terribly wrong with him, mentally. He communicates like an addled ten-year-old now. Granted, for those who have the mental faculties of a ten-year-old, that makes him appealing, but it's a stark decline from how he functioned even into his early 60s.

Finally, I ask, isn't Hillary mortal? Is there some reason that she is immune to illness?

No. She'll eventually sicken and die, like everyone. But, judging by what we saw in the 2016 campaign, she was quite strong at the time. We see less of her today, so we can't be as sure she's still strong, but we have no reason to think otherwise, either.
 
No, she's covering up. Do you know of anyone else who dresses as she does? Have you seen the videos of Hillary being helped up and down steps and falling anyway?

We know she suffered traumatic brain injuries. We know she has had two blood clots.

I ask you the same question I asked Oneuli. Is there any reason that Hillary Clinton isn't subject to illness just like the rest of us?
So, she’s wearing a back brace, it’s very touching you are concerned about her health. No, Clinton is quite human.
 
Oh, I see -- you mean the bullet-proof vest she sometimes has under her top when in situations where one of the right-wing loons might take a pot-shot at her? That strikes me as a reasonable precaution.



If so, it would have to be a brain injury that somehow managed not to noticeable impede physical function, since she's regularly pictured in public without any evident physical impairment, and also a brain injury that did nothing to impact her speech or her intellect, judging by the way she utterly demolished Trump in each of the debates. I'd be more concerned, if I were you, about what has gone wrong in Trump's brain. If you compare Trump's media appearances from a decade or two ago to today, the decline is breathtaking. He was always a blowhard and an ignoramus, devoid of a shred of moral sense, but he could carry a sentence from beginning to end without getting distracted, and he didn't use the crutch of endlessly repeating short stock phrases and filler words. I'm not sure if it was a stroke, dementia, or whether we're seeing the result of some sort of substance abuse, but something has gone terribly wrong with him, mentally. He communicates like an addled ten-year-old now. Granted, for those who have the mental faculties of a ten-year-old, that makes him appealing, but it's a stark decline from how he functioned even into his early 60s.



No. She'll eventually sicken and die, like everyone. But, judging by what we saw in the 2016 campaign, she was quite strong at the time. We see less of her today, so we can't be as sure she's still strong, but we have no reason to think otherwise, either.

It is obvious that you only remember seeing what you want to see. Hillary is medically unfit. Donna Brazile even wrote that there was much discussion about replacing Hillary on the ticket with Joe Biden due to her illness.

If you had looked at that link, you would have read the following:

The following is a CBS News report from December 2013 reporting on Clinton’s health issues from 2012. Mentioned are two blood clots Clinton has been diagnosed with. One clot Clinton suffered in the ’90s. The other blood clot she was diagnosed with was in Dec. 2012. In a ABC News report, it was discussed that Hillary Clinton did have additional issues stemming from the concussion. No one in Hillary Clinton’s camp would state what the additional issues or injuries she sustained were.
 
I think that sums up his appeal to the right pretty much perfectly. It doesn't matter to them that he's the very opposite of most of the things they spent the last couple Democratic administrations pretending to believe in. It doesn't matter that he's vastly increased the deficit, or that he's greatly expanded the role of executive power, or that he's insulted the military or cheated on his wife, or all the other things they got so very good at whining about when it was a Democrat. All that really matters to the conservative base is if he upsets their perceived political enemies (not the Russians, but rather the American press as well as liberals and racial minorities). They enjoy the pain he causes, and if the cost of that is long-term harm to the nation, it's a cost they consider well worth paying. As long as liberals are unhappy, the world can burn.

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Perfect description of the successful polarization of America by the plutocrats and those who hate us from afar. The ones who embrace this attitude no longer drink Koolaid; their ale is called Schadenfreude.
 
So, she’s wearing a back brace, it’s very touching you are concerned about her health. No, Clinton is quite human.

You didn't see her fall and be carried to her vehicle by the Secret Service? You didn't see her handler move in when she began to have a seizure during a speech? You didn't see her go into a seizure while she was surrounded by reporters. All signs of complex partial seizures and dementia.

You and Oneuli agree. Hillary is as susceptible to illness as anyone else. You just choose not to see it in your political idol. That is not logical.
 
You didn't see her fall and be carried to her vehicle by the Secret Service? You didn't see her handler move in when she began to have a seizure during a speech? You didn't see her go into a seizure while she was surrounded by reporters. All signs of complex partial seizures and dementia.

You and Oneuli agree. Hillary is as susceptible to illness as anyone else. You just choose not to see it in your political idol. That is not logical.

For some reason, their approach to "smiting their enemies" reminded me a lot of this:

 
So, she’s wearing a back brace, it’s very touching you are concerned about her health. No, Clinton is quite human.

I'm with Oneuil here; if anyone is going to be concerned about a politician's health, they should be looking at the deteriorating one who is in the WH, not one who is a private citizen. I smell more "Ewww, look at that old hag" than I do any real concern for Clinton's physical or mental health.
 
Trump is all about Trump,he isn't remotely a Republican,he ran as a Republican but he is using the party for his own means.

It makes perfect sense that he would have given up his decades-long membership in the Democrat party for that of the Republican. After all, like Trump, they prefer authoritarian, decisive, heavy-handed, belligerant, blustering, hawkish "leadership" that favors the upper class and the wealthy over the rest of us.
 
It is obvious that you only remember seeing what you want to see. Hillary is medically unfit. Donna Brazile even wrote that there was much discussion about replacing Hillary on the ticket with Joe Biden due to her illness.

If you had looked at that link, you would have read the following:

The following is a CBS News report from December 2013 reporting on Clinton’s health issues from 2012. Mentioned are two blood clots Clinton has been diagnosed with. One clot Clinton suffered in the ’90s. The other blood clot she was diagnosed with was in Dec. 2012. In a ABC News report, it was discussed that Hillary Clinton did have additional issues stemming from the concussion. No one in Hillary Clinton’s camp would state what the additional issues or injuries she sustained were.

yeah, she has been hospitalized over and over since the campaign. Oh wait. She wasn't. She is healthy and strong. Trump has fake doctors covering his health up. Hillary had no physical problems .
 
yeah, she has been hospitalized over and over since the campaign. Oh wait. She wasn't. She is healthy and strong. Trump has fake doctors covering his health up. Hillary had no physical problems .

Your tendency to relate everything to Trump is noted by the board. So is your hero worship of Hillary.
 
For some reason, their approach to "smiting their enemies" reminded me a lot of this:


Clinton did not have any public seizures.
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The occurrence depicted above was covered by several news outlets in June 2016, with none of them reporting the candidate had experienced a “seizure.” The Hill, for instance, reported that Clinton “exaggeratedly bob(bed) her head” after reporters repeated the question about Warren, while the New York Daily News wrote that Clinton “gave an exaggerated startled response” to the question.

CBS reporter Hannah Chanpong suggested that Clinton movements were simply an exaggerated reaction to her being “startled” when some reporters in her blind spot started suddenly barraging her with questions about her putative vice presidential choice. The fact that Clinton immediately repeated her initial reaction for humorous effect supports the hypothesis that it stemmed from a conscious movement and not an involuntary seizure:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hillary-clinton-seizure-video/
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Perhaps eager to avoid answering or maybe just taken aback by our volume, Clinton responded with an exaggerated motion, shaking her head vigorously for a few seconds. Video of the moment shows me holding out my recorder in front of her, laughing and stepping back in surprise. After the exchange, she took a few more photos, exited the shop and greeted supporters waiting outside.

Two months later, that innocuous exchange has become the fodder for one of some Trump supporters' most popular conspiracy theories: her failing health. Where I saw evasiveness, they see seizures.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-hillary-clinton-health-20160812-story.html
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Much in the way "birthers" (Trump was among the most prominent) sought similar ends by questioning President Barack Obama's citizenship, the "healthers" are using junk science and conspiracy theories to argue that Clinton is suffering from a series of debilitating brain injuries.

In an interview on "Fox News Sunday" this weekend, former New York City mayor and Trump surrogate Rudy Giuliani first accused the mainstream media of hiding evidence, then encouraged doubters to "go online and put down 'Hillary Clinton illness.'"
There is absolutely no credible evidence to backstop any of these claims, including on the "videos" Giuliani cited. Clinton's physician -- the only person to speak on the record who has actually examined her -- has repeatedly affirmed the former secretary of state's health and fitness for the highest office in the land.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/08/22/poli...health-conspiracy-theory-explained/index.html
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Keep in mind that Controlled Opposition is a conspiracy buff who believes that Israel, not Al Queda, was behind 9/11, with the help of our government. Oh and grassy knoll. lol
 
You didn't see her fall and be carried to her vehicle by the Secret Service? You didn't see her handler move in when she began to have a seizure during a speech? You didn't see her go into a seizure while she was surrounded by reporters. All signs of complex partial seizures and dementia.

You and Oneuli agree. Hillary is as susceptible to illness as anyone else. You just choose not to see it in your political idol. That is not logical.
It’s none of my business what Hillary has under her clothes. I wish her well, but if it was something she wants the public to know, she will tell us.
 
I'm with Oneuil here; if anyone is going to be concerned about a politician's health, they should be looking at the deteriorating one who is in the WH, not one who is a private citizen. I smell more "Ewww, look at that old hag" than I do any real concern for Clinton's physical or mental health.

The subject is Hillary.
 
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