Why Does A Northeastern Yankee like Myself Hold Such A Strong Bond With The South?

Professor Baxter said:
Because you were buried by an avalanche of snow 175 years ago, unfrozen by scientists and still think the civil war issues are relevant?
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To hear BAC and Poet talk, the Civil War issues are still relevant. Take it up with them. Of course maybe they have a special bond with the Civil War so it is only relevant with them and not anyone else.

A shame that hundreds of thousands died freeing BAC and Poets ancestors and they show little gratitude. Oh well.
 
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Professor dumb 'n stinky still trying to tell us that HE knows more about the birth of the republican party than the republican party knows about itself.

Is anyone surprised? Really?
 
maineman said:
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Professor dumb 'n stinky still trying to tell us that HE knows more about the birth of the republican party than the republican party knows about itself.

Is anyone surprised? Really?
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You don't seem to be able to present any facts to bolster your position.
 
maineman said:
Just the GOP's own website which clearly states that the party traces their beginning to The 1850's.

LOL
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As I explained to you earlier, that story is the history of the modern Republican Party and how it consolidated several factions in a common cause, against you filthy Democrat class-dividers and slavers, while retaining Jefferson's and Madison's roots.

I'm not sure that I can make it any simpler to understand.
 
DamnYankee said:
As I explained to you earlier, that story is the history of the modern Republican Party and how it consolidated several factions in a common cause, against you filthy Democrat class-dividers and slavers, while retaining Jefferson's and Madison's roots.

I'm not sure that I can make it any simpler to understand.
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The modern republican party has no connection to the less than modern democratic- republican party of the 1820's or the lithuanian republican party of the 1700's or any other party anywhere else in the world that happened to once call themselves the republican party. Similarly, every American citizen currently named Abe Lincoln is not the reincarnated embodiment of our 16th president. Is it mildly interesting and coincidental that the modern day republican party chose a name an earlier totally unrelated party once used? Perhaps. Does it have fuck all to do with the pedigree of the GOP? Nope.
 
maineman said:
The modern republican party has no connection to the less than modern democratic- republican party of the 1820's or the lithuanian republican party of the 1700's or any other party anywhere else in the world that happened to once call themselves the republican party. Similarly, every American citizen currently named Abe Lincoln is not the reincarnated embodiment of our 16th president. Is it mildly interesting and coincidental that the modern day republican party chose a name an earlier totally unrelated party once used? Perhaps. Does it have fuck all to do with the pedigree of the GOP? Nope.
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If you had the wherewithal to delve deeper into the history of the Party then you would see the clear connections that are based on political philosophy, not merely a name. But you, being a self-described Yellow, have no desire for truth.

Instead you express your need to interject your immoral foul language into an otherwise gentlemanly political discussion.
 
And you create some fantasy bolding the name republican in correspondence from the 1820's to somehow imply some genealogical connection. Fuckin' stupid. The party itself traces its roots to the 1850's.

And NEITHER major party bears but a faintly echoing resemblance to what they once were. Imagine a time when negroes en masse voted for republicans.... Yessir.... Things DO change... They surely do.
 
maineman said:
And you create some fantasy bolding the name republican in correspondence from the 1820's to somehow imply some genealogical connection. Fuckin' stupid. The party itself traces its roots to the 1850's.

And NEITHER major party bears but a faintly echoing resemblance to what they once were. Imagine a time when negroes en masse voted for republicans.... Yessir.... Things DO change... They surely do.
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A mere span of 30 years and you expect the name to be forgotten? Sorry but that doesn't make sense either.

Now you express your need to interject your immoral foul language and racism into an otherwise gentlemanly political discussion.
 
Again... If DY wants to say that he knows more about the origins of the grand old party than the national committee of the grand old party... All I can say is that it fits the pattern. DY thinks he knows more about just about everything than everyone else. He's good for a laugh now and then... But not much else.
 
The Southerners have successfully enslaved the party of emancipation, and are now attempting to link it to the slaveholding founders like Jefferson and Madison, rather than Hamilton and Adams. Hamilton, whose liberalism formed the basis for the GOP's economic and market stances, and Adams, whose conservatism formed the basis for the GOP's stances on order, moral issues, and the occasional abuse of power.
 
maineman said:
Again... If DY wants to say that he knows more about the origins of the grand old party than the national committee of the grand old party... All I can say is that it fits the pattern. DY thinks he knows more about just about everything than everyone else. He's good for a laugh now and then... But not much else.
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Actually you have no idea what the Committee's opinion is on this...
 
Threedee said:
The Southerners have successfully enslaved the party of emancipation, and are now attempting to link it to the slaveholding founders like Jefferson and Madison, rather than Hamilton and Adams. Hamilton, whose liberalism formed the basis for the GOP's economic and market stances, and Adams, whose conservatism formed the basis for the GOP's stances on order, moral issues, and the occasional abuse of power.
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The 1850's version took the best aspects of the Grand Old Party and left the crap for the Democrat Party...
 
The GOP should not have a single loyal follower from amongst the Southern states. To do so compromises it to it's old enemy's designs, and makes it as morally bankrupt as the DNC, as evidenced by Nixon, Bush the Lesser, and the numerous scandals that have occurred.
 
Threedee said:
The GOP should not have a single loyal follower from amongst the Southern states. To do so compromises it to it's old enemy's designs, and makes it as morally bankrupt as the DNC, as evidenced by Nixon, Bush the Lesser, and the numerous scandals that have occurred.
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You're acting like the region is of a single mindset shows your complete and total ignorance of The South. There was a huge percentage of the population who either resisted secession, or flat-out fought against it. Those folks remained loyal to the Grand Old Party and gradually, as folks who supported the Confederacy found out the truth about what the Democrat Party did, they joined the GOP. Then in modern times folks like me who figured out that northern liberals were lying about The South came to be one with it's greatness, swelling the ranks of the GOP to a solid majority.
 
maineman said:
The website that they approve and maintain is quite clear.

Sorry.
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No problem, because that's just the language that the committee approved for the website. It really has nothing to do with the detailed history of the GOP.

Do you think that Jefferson and Madison were both liars?
 
Neither of them were referring to today's republican party. Again...if some guy back in the 1600's were named Abraham Lincoln, that does not mean that the sixtenth president was necessarily descendent from him. The name of the party both of those guys were talking about was the democratic-republican party. The GOP does not trace its roots to them. The democrats clearly do. But, as I said before, any true republican would know that... Only johnny-come-lately former democratic southern racists who turned republican as a result of the outreach efforts of the democrats, and the concurrent success of Nixon's southern strategy would be confused as to the GOP's genealogy. That would be you.
 
DamnYankee said:
The Democrats have noting in common with the old D-R party. The Republicans do though.
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Your opinion, of course....the political geneaology shows that, regardless of your opinion, the GOP does not trace its roots back to anything earlier than the 1850's. sorry.
 
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