Why Does A Northeastern Yankee like Myself Hold Such A Strong Bond With The South?

maineman said:
I could give a rat's ass what anyone "called themselves" at some point in the distant past. The fact of the matter remains: the organization that "calls itself" the Republican Party today has only been in existence since the 1850's.
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Again, this is true.
 
DamnYankee said:
Actually that defies common sense as the Confederacy represented their former slavers.
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The Irish who lived in the south including Irish Catholics generally fought for the confederacy .. not all of them but the brunt of them.

Just like the brunt of the confederate army were Scots Irish.
 
DamnYankee said:
Of course it does, since that site is to remind folks about our anti-slavery roots, not to start off with a fight about who owns the original brand. But the fact is that Jefferson and Madison called themselves Republicans, and which party today has more respect for the Constitution that they had such a huge hand in drafting?
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I'm sorry but Thomas Jefferson was a Republican who founded the States Rights Party. Back then, there were the Jefferson Republicans vs. the Federalists.

James Madison was a Federalist who was strong on centralized government as was the Hamiltonians. He then became supportive of states rights after the bill of rights was included in the constitution.
 
philly rabbit said:
I'm sorry but Thomas Jefferson was a Republican who founded the States Rights Party. Back then, there were the Jefferson Republicans vs. the Federalists.

James Madison was a Federalist who was strong on centralized government as was the Hamiltonians. He then became supportive of states rights after the bill of rights was included in the constitution.
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Jefferson wrote this to Paine: "...we have a sect preaching up & pouting after an English constitution of king, lords, & commons, & whose heads are itching for crowns, coronets & mitres. But our people, my good friend, are firm and unanimous in their principles of republicanism & there is no better proof of it than that they love what you write and read it with delight."

Madison was a good friend of Jefferson's and a political ally. The "sect" that he was referring to was the Federalists, headed up by Hamilton.
 
philly rabbit said:
The Irish who lived in the south including Irish Catholics generally fought for the confederacy .. not all of them but the brunt of them.

Just like the brunt of the confederate army were Scots Irish.
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I don't think you can say "the brunt of them" or "most" of them. No doubt there were some who who duped by their ancestor's masters.

I invite you to read "Cold Mountain". Although it is historical fiction it is based on the fact that most of the Confederate soldiers had no idea what they were actually fighting for.
 
DamnYankee said:
Jefferson wrote this to Paine: "...we have a sect preaching up & pouting after an English constitution of king, lords, & commons, & whose heads are itching for crowns, coronets & mitres. But our people, my good friend, are firm and unanimous in their principles of republicanism & there is no better proof of it than that they love what you write and read it with delight."

Madison was a good friend of Jefferson's and a political ally. The "sect" that he was referring to was the Federalists, headed up by Hamilton.
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I love it when y'all quote Jefferson, he who rallied for freedom while owning slaves, he who rallied for American virtue while fucking those slaves and having children with them, he who rallied for small government yet gave us the Louisiana Purchase without authority and ignoring the Constitution - thus doubling the size of the nation and government and led to Manifest Destiny.
 
The Louisiana Purchase was a smart move. It gave the French an out (they had over-extended) while keeping it away from the damn Brits.
 
DamnYankee said:
Jefferson wrote this to Paine: "...we have a sect preaching up & pouting after an English constitution of king, lords, & commons, & whose heads are itching for crowns, coronets & mitres. But our people, my good friend, are firm and unanimous in their principles of republicanism & there is no better proof of it than that they love what you write and read it with delight."

Madison was a good friend of Jefferson's and a political ally. The "sect" that he was referring to was the Federalists, headed up by Hamilton.
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Well, I don't see the word "Federalist" in that quote, so he must have been talking about some other sect...
 
DamnYankee said:
That's my point, there is no such thing as a democratic, so there is no "democratic" party. Glad I was able to educate you on grammar.
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democratic is an adjective. It describes and helps to qualify and give more distinguishing information about the noun, party. That's how democrats have chosen to refer to their party. Don't like it? Do you think any of us give a fuck?
 
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