Why do you allow the lies?

[PoliTalker]

Hello LV426,

Wrong. As Putin's FSB demonstrated in 2014 through today, trolling exists first and is undertaken by a deliberate, concerted effort by a foreign power with the strategic goal of sowing division and undermining democratic values.

Every time you try and draw a moral equivalence, every time you whatabout, every time you employ bothsiderism, you are assisting those efforts.

True, but it is only a semantic victory for you.

Trolling only becomes effective when the bait is taken.

Nobody goes fishing for the sake of getting hooks wet.

They want a live one on the line. That's the point of it.

If nobody bites it is pointless.

Actually, if nobody ever bit (academic consideration) there would be no trolling; because if it were not effective, it would not be done.

And I believe you will find, if you look for it, that there is more to this place than the red team / blue team mentality.

 

[Legion]

Democrats proposed a bill in the Senate that has 49 co-sponsors..

So? Maybe you should study an old Civics textbook. Laws aren't enacted because of co-sponsorship. There has to be a vote.

How come the DEMOCRATS didn't pass a law when they held majorities in both houses of Congress and Obama infested the Oval Ofiice?

Obama promised immigration reform, didn't he?

Obamacare became law without a single Republican vote. Why didn't the Jackass Party take care of the immigration issue when they had the chance?

Was it because Obama was too busy caging kids ans separating families?

 

[LV426]

There you go again with the lies and strawmen.

What is the lie? What is the straw man? Articulate your thoughts.

 

[Legion]

He did cheat. He enlisted the support of Russia. Then lied about it.

Prove it.

 

[LV426]

Wrong again you clueless dullard; it wasn't about "separation"

It wasn't about separation until you started separating families. And you separated the families in order to deter future families from coming here to seek asylum.

You're a sociopath.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

But you only used that tactic once you realized you couldn't attack my proposal on its merits. And that's because you're an intellectual fraud. Your original question wasn't how likely are the proposals to pass, your question was simply "what are your proposals?" Then, once you couldn't attack my proposal on its merits, did you do the retreat to "well, good luck getting that passed anyway."

Wait - I thought you were soliciting ideas, now you're running away from that solicitation?

How come?

Oh right, because you're a fraud and a coward, and you know it.

Your proposal had no merits, is just you exhibiting your desire for the US to surrender, and just have no borders or laws regarding immigration.

It's not my fault that you finally realized that even the DNC would laugh you out of their headquarters.

 

[LV426]

until the FAKE media and the Democratic Party of the Jackass decided to try to lie about it in a desperate attempt to get morons like you to vote for them in the fall.

So then you will say that no separations are happening? THEN WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING IT?

 

[Jarod]

So then you will say that no separations are happening? THEN WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING IT?

its the order of operations..

Defend.
Deny.
Run hide.

 

[LV426]

No they are not being torn apart scarecrow; the children are being placed in a humane setting

With or without their parents that they arrive with?

And you realize you just confirmed that they are being torn apart.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Yes, they do have the right to seek asylum here.

You don't know anything about our laws because you're not even an American, are you?

But they don't have the right to expect it to be a given.

If you're just going to keep throwing out insults, in any posts after 9:50 my time, we're done and you can just continue to enjoy your pit of misery.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Because America is too brown for you, and it's only getting darker.




Seeking asylum is legal. You don't know about our laws because you're not an American, are you?

You have nothing to support your claim, so it's just you whining.

 

[LV426]

probably far better than what they had in their countries of origin or the dangerous trek to our borders

Yeah, they were seeking asylum from those places. Which is why they came here. Wow. It's amazing watching you get to where the rest of us have already been this entire time.

, while the PRESUMED parents are interviewed to determine the legality of their claims and if they truly are the parents.

The parents aren't interviewed where the children are detained and concentrated in camps. You don't know what you're talking about. You're just babbling and making it all up as you go.

f course you lack a brain and therefore the ability to think for yourself which is why you merely parrot the moronic talking points you are gullibly fed.

What is obvious is that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. And this babbling is just painting you into a rhetorical corner. The more you talk, the more cramped you get.

You make this so easy for me.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

I didn't cherry pick anything, I quoted you exactly and in full.

Stop whining like a baby.

I never said that it was that post, where you did your cherry picking

 

[LV426]

There you go again with the stupid and lies

Nothing I said about your people saying why they were breaking families apart on camera is a lie. You can go and watch them yourself on YouTube.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

No, totally true because it's what John Kelly and Stephen Miller said. And then Jeff Sessions reiterated that in his speech.

But none of this matters within the context of you because you're not even an American, are you?

Please continue with your delusions; because it makes it that much easier to dismiss.

 

[LV426]

I wish I could say it is cute when you engage in your moronic Nazi meme

You're the one who said they were just following orders and that they shouldn't be blamed for doing what they're doing.

Nazis use that defense.

You are a Nazi.

 

[LV426]

There you go again with the lies

You're the ones who said on camera that you were breaking families apart simply because you wanted to deter future families from coming here to seek asylum.

It's on camera.

Reconcile it.

 

[Ross Dolan]

You have the opportunity to show that you're just not another liberal poser, by accepting the bet; unless you just want to continue being a poser.

Okay, Dick Head.

I accept.

You are saying you can prove something I said about the issue we discussed is incorrect.

YOU...OR ONE OF THE MODERATORS...CAN REASONABLY ESTABLISH THAT SOMETHING I SAID IN THE MATTER IS WRONG.

Let us clarify what the bet is...absolutely.

I will accept.

And if I lose...there will be no need for a perma-ban...I hereby pledge that I will NEVER post in this forum again...or cause to have anything posted by someone else for me. EVER. And I will not attempt to come back using a disguise or a sock.

YOU, of course, will do the same if you lose...right? And you can be trusted on this...even though you have shown a tendency toward duplicity?

So...we should do it in a separate thread...so that everyone can know that we made this bet...and given our pledges.

In a separate thread (which you should start)...tell us what I said that you, or a moderator, can prove as wrong...and we will make the bet.

Getting rid of one of us will make the forum a nicer place...so it does make sense for the bet to happen.

 

[LV426]

Link please.

No Republicans support Senate bill that would stop child separations at border
WASHINGTON — West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin on Monday became the 49th Democrat to sign onto a bill intended to halt family separations for immigrants accused of trying to cross the border illegally.

Every Senate Democrat is now a co-sponsor of the legislation which would prohibit children from being separated from their parents within 100 miles of the U.S. border except for instances of abuse, neglect or other specific circumstances.

“As a father, grandfather, and Christian, I am wholeheartedly opposed to any policy that allows innocent children to be separated from their parents as they enter our country,” Manchin said in a statement.

The Keep Families Together Act was introduced by California Sen. Dianne Feinstein this month after the Drumpf administration started instituting a “zero tolerance” immigration policy, under which anyone who crosses the border illegally will be prosecuted.


Kill yourself.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

So it's my fault that your plan had flaws that you failed to consider.

That's your failure and not mine.

So it's my fault that your plan had flaws that you failed to consider.

What flaws? What are the flaws of my plan? Do tell? Time to put up or shut up. Let's debate the merits of my plans. I'm ready. Are you?

You were warned, you responded to the warning, and made the choice to continue.

You and your opinions are no longer of any importance.

Bye.