Yep.
‘Who will blink first?’ Is nuclear war between Russia and the US possible? | RT
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Yep.
Taichiliberal
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Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
SOS, different day.
I've been hearing the SOS from various "experts" since I was in junior high...and I'm in my early 60's!
Yeah, like a broken clock this will come to pass in one form or another some day. But then, that would end all that filthy lucre for the defense industry. Ahh, the military/industrial complex....for a safer, better life.
I think you agree that the military industrial complex is a big problem, right?
Yeah, I was being sarcastic....hence the emogee of rolling eyes.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Mmm, not quite. Here's some info that I wasn't aware of, and they sure as hell weren't teaching it in the schools.
Op-Ed: U.S. leaders knew we didn’t have to drop atomic bombs on Japan to win the war. We did it anyway
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-08-05/hiroshima-anniversary-japan-atomic-bombs
LAtimes. com/ OPINION isn't much of a source on what was going on in the Pacific. You might ask someone who was there if the Japs were ready to surrender. They weren't...
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
The article does more than just give opinion. Like I said, it gives information (documented) that I wasn't aware of....and I dare so were many an American to this day....and that includes you. It's a good installment in the debate whether you like it or not.
Oh, and they are JAPANESE. The war has been over for 77 years, Japan is now an ally and a member of the U.N. and supporter of NATO. So indulging in an antiquated and period piece racial slur isn't necessary, much less justified.
Yet the opinion writer hadn't spent a day in the pacific during the war.
My father did spend 2 years in the pacific during WWII and said the Japanese (he always called them Japs) fought vigorously until the second atomic bomb was dropped.
There is no discrepancy that Japan is now an ally (we did help them rebuild after the war) and a NATO member. Sorry you were offended (seems everything offends liberals these days!).
Nonsense.
What is that "institution?"
Also nonsense.
The obvious question is: What is your problem?
My problem is that you refuse to accept the fact that the US used nuclear weapons.
Your "problem" is much greater than that.
For the record, I accept the fact that the US used nuclear weapons. I was alive at the time and remember it happening. The one used on Nagasaki was detonated on my birthday, August 9th.
So let's not pretend who will blink. The US is actively seeking nuclear war.
I apologize, Goat. I thought I was conversing with someone sane.
I thought I was talking to someone who understood geopolitics.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
and it was Biden who okayed a minor incursion and trailed the rest of the world with sanctions and support for Ukraine......sanctions which were ineffective I might add.....
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Very moving trailer. There was another incident during the Cuban Missile Crisis that I thought was somewhat similar, no movie made on it as far as I know though:
Cuban Missile Crisis: How One Russian Submarine Nearly Caused a Nuclear War | nationalinterest.org
The IMF and the world bank, perhaps, but the U.S. isn't just composed of its power brokers. The U.S. has a lot more going for it then its military prowess.
I can't speak for the second bomb, though the fact that it was second suggests it took around as long if not longer to be ready, but the first one, "Little boy", was only ready days before actually being used on Hiroshima. The Little boy design had never even been tested before. From Wikipedia:
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The design specifications were completed in February 1945, and contracts were let to build the components. Three different plants were used so that no one would have a copy of the complete design. The gun and breech were made by the Naval Gun Factory in Washington, D.C.; the target case and some other components by the Naval Ordnance Plant in Center Line, Michigan; and the tail fairing and mounting brackets by the Expert Tool and Die Company in Detroit, Michigan.[14] The bomb, except for the uranium payload, was ready at the beginning of May 1945.[15] Manhattan District Engineer Kenneth Nichols expected on 1 May 1945 to have enriched uranium "for one weapon before August 1 and a second one sometime in December", assuming the second weapon would be a gun-type; designing an implosion bomb for enriched uranium was considered, and this would increase the production rate.[16] The enriched uranium projectile was completed on 15 June, and the target on 24 July.[17] The target and bomb pre-assemblies (partly assembled bombs without the fissile components) left Hunters Point Naval Shipyard, California, on 16 July aboard the heavy cruiser USS Indianapolis, arriving on 26 July.[18] The target inserts followed by air on 30 July.[17]
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Full article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Boy#Development
Little boy was detonated over Hiroshima just a week after the target inserts, on August 6.
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Your syllogism seems to go...
P1: The US has used nuclear weapons
P2: Ummm...
C: Therefore the US is seeking nuclear war.
And you want to talk geopolitics???
You should reconsider.
Tell me where I'm wrong.
Personally, I think the fact that the U.S. has used nuclear weapons in the past doesn't necessarily mean that the U.S. wants to start a nuclear war. I definitely think they're being reckless in Ukraine though.