While Trump has Venezuelan’s murdered…

Jarod said:
Trump was so desperate for it, well at least he has three more years to keep up his “peace” attempts.
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Obama got it for merely getting elected whole being half black. Kind of takes the meaning of the award to a lower state.

Jarod said:
maybe more peace and less murder. That would be my advice.
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I am amused that you think working for peace in India and Pakistan, Ukraine and Russia, Gaza and Israel is less desirable than allowing murderous criminal cartels peddle their deadly drugs here. Why is that?
 
Jarod said:
I don’t see how one is connected to the other. Were these people Trump had killed convicted of a crime?
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Do they need a conviction as known murderous terroristic cartel members peddling death? How fucking ignorant are you?

Jarod said:
Other than Trump who says they were running drugs? Did the boats these people were and have the ability to make it from where they were to the United States? Remember how bad you guys freaked out when Obama had a major terrorist droned?
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It is obvious to anyone with half a brain. Apparently, that is far more than you have. :palm:
 
QP! said:
I love seeing all the magat tears and obsession about Obama in this chat and every time a nobel is brought up. They care so much about an award they think has no value going to someone they think did not deserve it.

If only magats were smart enough to see how stupid that makes them look.


:rofl2: :lolup::lolup::rofl2:
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Projection

The process of displacing one’s feelings onto a different person, animal, or object. The term is most commonly used to describe defensive projection—attributing one’s own unacceptable urges to another.
 
Cypress said:
Obama told you and Bush back in 2002 that invading Iraq was a dangerous and dumbass idea. Warmongers like you should have listened to him.
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Democrats made the same claims you brainless unhinged moron. :palm:

“One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.”
– President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

“If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.”
– President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

“We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction.”
– Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998

“He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.”
– Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

“[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.”

Letter to President Clinton.
– (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998

“Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.”
– Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

“Hussein has … chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.”
– Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

“We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them.”
– Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

“We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.”
– Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

“Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.”
– Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

“We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.”
– Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

“The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons…”
– Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

“I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force — if necessary — to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.”
– Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

“There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years … We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.”
– Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members … It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.”
– Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

“We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction.”
– Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

“Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime … He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation … And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction … So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real…”
– Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
 
Phantasmal said:
Trump has murdered 14 people without evidence and without a trial. He has violated domestic and international law.

It’s that simple, it’s been documented in video.
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No, he declared the Narco drug-traffickers as terrorists.

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Get a clue.
 
Earl said:
Yes, that’s why Obama should never have gotten it.
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Your obsession is real but your tears... oh...

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FastLane said:
And executing American Citizens without a Constitutionally guaranteed trial like Obama did does merit a Nobel. You certainly have and interesting revisionist view of things. :laugh:
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You are so stupid you think pushing an argument that 'Obama got a Nobel prize he did not deserve', makes the case then that Trump should get one he does not deserve.

You do not realize what an epic fail that argument is, even if we stipulated to your argument, which we do not.
 
Earl said:
No, he declared the Narco drug-traffickers as terrorists.

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Get a clue.
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So? If he declared the Nobel Committee as terrorists, could he murder them?>
 
Earl said:
No, he declared the Narco drug-traffickers as terrorists.

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Get a clue.
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Even if you grant that Trump has the power to designate drug gangs terrorists groups (he does not), that DOES NOT mean he can simply look at the ocean and designate any boat he sees as being loaded with those drug gang members and then summarily execute them.

That is not how US or International law works.

And proof of that is that if he went to a lower standard and simply captured them and sent them to Guantanamo bay for torture interrogation until they admit they are those drug gang members (a far less punishment then summary execution) he would be violating international and US law doing that and made to stop.
 
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