Where is Trump's Beautiful Healthcare Plan? Here's Warren's...
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You obviously haven't done yours. Just pulling down 'facts' from Trump's ass.
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NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
People who send their kids to private schools still have to pay the taxes for public schools.
Everybody should have to pay taxes for universal healthcare, but if they want to pay for private insurance on top of that, that should be their prerogative.
Civilized nations pay high taxes. That's the price of being civilized. It's literally impossible to be civilized any other way.
What amazes me is how unashamed Trumpanzees are of our national social regressiveness. They not only don't mind that we're becoming known as the ignorant savages of the developed world, but on top of that, they have the ignorance to call it "American Exceptionalism." In other words, they're proud of being exceptionally backward.
Elizabeth Warren is an extremely intelligent woman. Trumpanzees are terrified of intelligence, literacy, and education alike. They migrate to the outskirts of society because there, they don't feel intellectually inadequate in comparison to progressive liberals who live in the great urban cultural centers. Among other illiterate crackers, they feel a false
sense of being adequate; but they are not adequate in any way. They are responsible for America's loss of influence in the global community. Given the opportunity, they are instrumental in reducing America to third world status. And because they're over-represented by far in the political world, especially in the electoral college, they are responsible for the humiliating fiasco and consummate disgrace of the Trump presidency.
Trump supporters are not only unwelcome but literally loathed among decent people. I haven't a single one among my social acquaintances. Upon detection, they have been permanently expelled. There is no circumstance that could restore their welcome. They are a malignant cancer on the body of humanity. Unredeemable is the apt description for them. They will die in disgrace, and until we as a people can forget about them altogether, their legacy will be one of profound shame.
Everybody should have to pay taxes for universal healthcare, but if they want to pay for private insurance on top of that, that should be their prerogative.
Civilized nations pay high taxes. That's the price of being civilized. It's literally impossible to be civilized any other way.
What amazes me is how unashamed Trumpanzees are of our national social regressiveness. They not only don't mind that we're becoming known as the ignorant savages of the developed world, but on top of that, they have the ignorance to call it "American Exceptionalism." In other words, they're proud of being exceptionally backward.
Elizabeth Warren is an extremely intelligent woman. Trumpanzees are terrified of intelligence, literacy, and education alike. They migrate to the outskirts of society because there, they don't feel intellectually inadequate in comparison to progressive liberals who live in the great urban cultural centers. Among other illiterate crackers, they feel a false
sense of being adequate; but they are not adequate in any way. They are responsible for America's loss of influence in the global community. Given the opportunity, they are instrumental in reducing America to third world status. And because they're over-represented by far in the political world, especially in the electoral college, they are responsible for the humiliating fiasco and consummate disgrace of the Trump presidency.
Trump supporters are not only unwelcome but literally loathed among decent people. I haven't a single one among my social acquaintances. Upon detection, they have been permanently expelled. There is no circumstance that could restore their welcome. They are a malignant cancer on the body of humanity. Unredeemable is the apt description for them. They will die in disgrace, and until we as a people can forget about them altogether, their legacy will be one of profound shame.
The GOP controlled the House until the midterms, yet did nothing except give the already filthy rich a massive tax cut. Thus proving that they have no interest in fiscal responsibility.
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That Congress was controlled by the GOP. Why is it that Trump only does things when he can blame their failure on the Democrats? But that's been a lifelong pattern with Trump. Always find someone else to blame.
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So you're saying that the U.S. can't handle a system that virtually every other advanced nation runs successfully.?
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Scaring them off only if they're as stupid and ignorant as you are. You clearly have no idea what socialism is. It's just another scary boogeymen to you.
Trump is already ballooning the debt.
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Teflon Don
I'm back baby
you saying Nancy Pelosi doesn't mean it?
Why the jealousy?
You have to accept that those other nations aren't as successful as you've been duped into believing before you can understand why we shouldn't use such a system.
No one should have to pay taxes for universal healthcare. A program like that shouldn't exist.
You must have sucked as a boxer, if that is true, boy. You've clearly had the shit beaten out of you so many times it's fucked up what little cognitive ability you had before. A washed up, has been, dumbass black boy isn't the way to spend your waining years. Just fade away quietly and do yourself and society a favor.
Teflon Don
I'm back baby
I don't argue false choices. What I would rather happen is we move toward a true free market in healthcare where except for major expensive medical conditions (cancer, broken arm etc) you pay cash out of pocket. Prescriptions? You pay cash. Routine doctors appointments? You pay cash. Immunizations? You pay cash. Lab tests? You pay cash
Something that costs $40,000? You have major medical
Costs would come down. There would be more transparency in the system and quality would improve.
What I would rather happen, will never happen. Insurance companies are in the pockets of the government. They like their state sanctioned monopolies. There is too much power in controlling your healthcare for politicians to give up. IF they control your healthcare, they essentially control YOU
But as long as they can convince you that you are getting something for nothing and the "rich" are going to pay for it, that is all that limited thinkers who support this nonsense need
Life is Golden
It's Morning in America Again
Exactly right. The concept of health insurance is preventing financial devastation, not $10 or "free" doctor visits.
I will never understand how some think they are entitled to the services of others, i.e., involuntary servitude.
Life is Golden
It's Morning in America Again
And they would have to give up their own insurance. Not happening....
Joe Capitalist
Racism is a disease
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.
The US is NOT every other advanced nation. You can't extrapolate what every other advanced nation does to the US. Does every other advanced nation have a $21 Trillion debt? Does every other advanced nation have over 300 million citizens? Does every other advanced nation have the biggest, most inefficient bureaucracy as a government?
I rest my case.
Joe Capitalist
Racism is a disease
If you're willing to risk four more years of Trump just to have Medicare for all, then you're the stupid one.
The key to this election is winning over the moderates/centrists (and there are quite a lot of them) who are not beholden to either party (like you are to the Dems).
Warren may have the far left locked up with her Healthcare plan but she most certainly doesn't have the key to lock up the moderates - and that will be her (and America's ) downfall.
If Trump wins another four years, I'll have you (and others like you) to thank.
Joe Capitalist
Racism is a disease
If you think I'm a leftist, that's just another thing you got wrong. But, I'm pretty sure you have no idea. You're pretty freaking clueless about just about everything.
You just go on believing what makes you feel warm and fuzzy rather than the truth. No wonder you voted for Trump.
You know what they say. You have to be a fucking moron to vote for a fucking moron.
Teflon Don
I'm back baby
Clean up on aisle four. You know when you go around calling others clueless and "fucking morons" you might want to make sure your own backyard is buttoned up. Glass houses and all.
Yes, you aren't a "leftist". Let me guess, you are a "centrist" or a "moderate"
Tell me kind sir, list your positions on the various topics of the day
Guns
Abortion
Healthcare
Taxation
Man made global warming
America's place in foreign affairs
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello rjhenn,
Thanks.
-As they shed the crocodile tears of those who have the most money, both prior to and following an increase in taxing of the rich.
I mean, they don't even have their wealth reduced so much as to make anyone else richer than them, much less 'taxed into poverty.' They still hold their same position on the scale of wealth from the poorest to the richest. They just can't stand the idea of government doing more for the populace to offset the problem of how that scale of wealth has actually been changing. That's because it heavily favors those richest individuals more and more as time goes by.
The distribution of wealth from poorest to richest has been growing thinner and thinner at the low end, with a lot of people having very little as, for the very few at the high end the amount of wealth is staggering, shooting off the page. As time goes by, the low and middle get less and less as the very few at the top end get even more, so much that any graph which showed it proportionally would hardly show anything at all for the entire bottom half of the population.
If we wanted to just freeze the highly skewed current distribution of wealth where it is right now, we would have to have constantly increasing taxes on the richest just to hold us at our current level of already extreme wealth inequality. It is difficult to imagine how, as time progresses and those proportions become increasingly skewed, eventually to the point where only a very few individuals have most of the wealth, and everyone else has practically nothing comparatively, that such resentment would not grow that it would cause a social upheaval. That has happened already, time and again across history.
I think it is the responsibility of the people of our age to recognize that simmering problem and begin to address it now while we can make easy and slight changes which diminish no rich lifestyles, but make a great improvement in those of the lower half of the wealth spectrum. This could actually generate so much new prosperity, education, ingenuity and productivity that the economy thrives in a healthy way which generates enough taxes to end the spiraling increase of federal debt. That is an important missing factor Trump Republicans are not addressing. Ignoring that problem will not make it go away. It is a ticking time bomb.
We need a new education system in the USA. What we have is not working. We are so stupid to think if we don't spend money on education that we would not end up spending more on prison. When we resign ourselves to fix these social problems with prison, we take a potentially productive individual out of productive society and they become a burden to society. That really hurts both our economy and our debt figures. Money spent on education is worth more than money spent on prison.
If society does not provide education and opportunity for realizable success, then people get into trouble. We need to collect enough revenue to have our government provide an effective education to prepare young people to enter productive society in the profession of their choice and aptitude. The only way we can ensure that society is doing this is through our common organization called government. Capitalism has no interest in making sure young people are educated. It has to be government. All capitalism wants to do with them is extract wealth. Capitalism is quite happy to have lots of dumb people out there in society because marketing is more effective on dumb people. Smart people decide for themselves what to buy, where to spend their money. Dumb people see something, they got to have it, and they spend their last dollar to get it. Then they can't make ends meet and go bankrupt or homeless. They actually become a burden on the economy, a mistake that capitalism is too dumb to self-correct without government guiding it.
Thanks.
-As they shed the crocodile tears of those who have the most money, both prior to and following an increase in taxing of the rich.
I mean, they don't even have their wealth reduced so much as to make anyone else richer than them, much less 'taxed into poverty.' They still hold their same position on the scale of wealth from the poorest to the richest. They just can't stand the idea of government doing more for the populace to offset the problem of how that scale of wealth has actually been changing. That's because it heavily favors those richest individuals more and more as time goes by.
The distribution of wealth from poorest to richest has been growing thinner and thinner at the low end, with a lot of people having very little as, for the very few at the high end the amount of wealth is staggering, shooting off the page. As time goes by, the low and middle get less and less as the very few at the top end get even more, so much that any graph which showed it proportionally would hardly show anything at all for the entire bottom half of the population.
If we wanted to just freeze the highly skewed current distribution of wealth where it is right now, we would have to have constantly increasing taxes on the richest just to hold us at our current level of already extreme wealth inequality. It is difficult to imagine how, as time progresses and those proportions become increasingly skewed, eventually to the point where only a very few individuals have most of the wealth, and everyone else has practically nothing comparatively, that such resentment would not grow that it would cause a social upheaval. That has happened already, time and again across history.
I think it is the responsibility of the people of our age to recognize that simmering problem and begin to address it now while we can make easy and slight changes which diminish no rich lifestyles, but make a great improvement in those of the lower half of the wealth spectrum. This could actually generate so much new prosperity, education, ingenuity and productivity that the economy thrives in a healthy way which generates enough taxes to end the spiraling increase of federal debt. That is an important missing factor Trump Republicans are not addressing. Ignoring that problem will not make it go away. It is a ticking time bomb.
We need a new education system in the USA. What we have is not working. We are so stupid to think if we don't spend money on education that we would not end up spending more on prison. When we resign ourselves to fix these social problems with prison, we take a potentially productive individual out of productive society and they become a burden to society. That really hurts both our economy and our debt figures. Money spent on education is worth more than money spent on prison.
If society does not provide education and opportunity for realizable success, then people get into trouble. We need to collect enough revenue to have our government provide an effective education to prepare young people to enter productive society in the profession of their choice and aptitude. The only way we can ensure that society is doing this is through our common organization called government. Capitalism has no interest in making sure young people are educated. It has to be government. All capitalism wants to do with them is extract wealth. Capitalism is quite happy to have lots of dumb people out there in society because marketing is more effective on dumb people. Smart people decide for themselves what to buy, where to spend their money. Dumb people see something, they got to have it, and they spend their last dollar to get it. Then they can't make ends meet and go bankrupt or homeless. They actually become a burden on the economy, a mistake that capitalism is too dumb to self-correct without government guiding it.
countryboy
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Warren delivers what? A $52 trillion boondoggle? Get real. There's no way to pay for that without wrecking this country. Are you really that stupid Owl?