when they go low, We kick their asses with facts

evince said:
the government controls the post office and was written Into the constitution by the founders


it is socialism


like I said its a tool the founders found useful.


you assholes keep lying that the Democratic Party wants to kill what our founders designed and have socialism for merely wanting to employ that same tool the founders LIKED to fix other issues in this nation.


the founders approved


they agreed its a useful tool.



We are a Hybrid

the founders DESIGNED US THAT WAY


you shits need to quit lying about what Americans want to do


you wont stop lying because you are an evil stupid person
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You saying something is something doesn't make it true. As I've pointed out to you, Karl Marx wasn't born until 1818. The government operating the post office, or anything else, isn't socialism no matter how much you want it to be. Capitalism isn't even a form of government. But everyone else doesn't get it, right Evince?
 
evince said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Postal_Service#History



The United States Post Office (USPO) was created on July 26, 1775, by decree of the Second Continental Congress.[1] Benjamin Franklin headed it briefly.
Before the Revolution, individuals like Benjamin Franklin and William Goddard were the colonial postmasters who managed the mails then and were the general architects of a postal system that started out as an alternative to the Crown Post.
The official post office was created in 1792 as the Post Office Department (USPOD). It was based on the Constitutional authority empowering Congress "To establish post offices and post roads". The 1792 law provided for a greatly expanded postal network, and served editors by charging newspapers an extremely low rate. The law guaranteed the sanctity of personal correspondence, and provided the entire country with low-cost access to information on public affairs, while establishing a right to personal privacy.[14]
Rufus Easton was appointed by Thomas Jefferson first postmaster of St. Louis under the recommendation of Postmaster General Gideon Granger. Rufus Easton was the first postmaster and built the first post office west of the Mississippi. At the same time Easton was appointed by Thomas Jefferson, judge of Louisiana Territory, the largest territory in North America. Bruce Adamson wrote that: "Next to Benjamin Franklin, Rufus Easton was one of the most colorful people in United States Postal History." It was Easton who educated Abraham Lincoln's Attorney General, Edward Bates. In 1815 Edward Bates moved into the Easton home and lived there for years at Third and Elm. Today this is the site of the Jefferson Memorial Park. In 1806 Postmaster General Gideon Granger wrote a three-page letter to Easton, begging him not to partake in a duel with vice-president Aaron Burr. Two years earlier it was Burr who had shot and killed Alexander Hamilton. Many years later in 1852, Easton's son, Major-General Langdon Cheves Easton, was commissioned by William T. Sherman, at Fort Union to deliver a letter to Independence, Missouri. Sherman wrote: "In the Spring of 1852, General Sherman mentioned that the quartermaster, Major L.C. Easton, at Fort Union, New Mexico, had occasion to send some message east by a certain date, and contracted with Aubrey to carry it to the nearest post office (then Independence, Missouri), making his compensation conditional on the time consumed. He was supplied with a good horse, and an order on the outgoing trains for exchange. Though the whole route was infested with hostile Indians, and not a house on it, Aubrey started alone with his rifle. He was fortunate in meeting several outward-bound trains, and thereby made frequent changes of horses, some four or five, and reached Independence in six days, having hardly rested or slept the whole way."[15]
To cover long distances, the Post Office used a hub-and-spoke system, with Washington as the hub and chief sorting center. By 1869, with 27,000 local post offices to deal with, it had changed to sorting mail en route in specialized railroad mail cars, called Railway Post Offices, or RPOs. The system of postal money orders began in 1864. Free mail delivery began in the larger cities in 1863.[16]
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evince said:
19th century[edit]
The postal system played a crucial role in national expansion. It facilitated expansion into the West by creating an inexpensive, fast, convenient communication system. Letters from early settlers provided information and boosterism to encourage increased migration to the West, helped scattered families stay in touch and provide assistance, assisted entrepreneurs in finding business opportunities, and made possible regular commercial relationships between merchants in the west and wholesalers and factories back east. The postal service likewise assisted the Army in expanding control over the vast western territories. The widespread circulation of important newspapers by mail, such as the New York Weekly Tribune, facilitated coordination among politicians in different states. The postal service helped integrate established areas with the frontier, creating a spirit of nationalism and providing a necessary infrastructure.[17]



this socialism tool grew the nation



the founders knew it would and think you are an asshole
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evince said:
19th century[edit]
The postal system played a crucial role in national expansion. It facilitated expansion into the West by creating an inexpensive, fast, convenient communication system. Letters from early settlers provided information and boosterism to encourage increased migration to the West, helped scattered families stay in touch and provide assistance, assisted entrepreneurs in finding business opportunities, and made possible regular commercial relationships between merchants in the west and wholesalers and factories back east. The postal service likewise assisted the Army in expanding control over the vast western territories. The widespread circulation of important newspapers by mail, such as the New York Weekly Tribune, facilitated coordination among politicians in different states. The postal service helped integrate established areas with the frontier, creating a spirit of nationalism and providing a necessary infrastructure.[17]



this socialism tool grew the nation



the founders knew it would and think you are an asshole




you lie about the use of socialism in the USA


the founders liked the tool you scumbag
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evince said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_education_in_the_United_States#Federal_era

After the Revolution, northern states especially emphasized education and rapidly established public schools. By the year 1870, all states had tax-subsidized elementary schools.[51] The US population had one of the highest literacy rates in the world at the time.[52] Private academies also flourished in the towns across the country, but rural areas (where most people lived) had few schools before the 1880s.
In 1821, Boston started the first public high school in the United States. By the close of the 19th century, public secondary schools began to outnumber private ones.[53][54]



public school


more socialism the founders found useful
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evince said:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/social democracy


social democracy noun

Definition of social democracy
1
: a political movement advocating a gradual and peaceful transition from capitalism to socialism by democratic means
2
: a democratic welfare state that incorporates both capitalist and socialist practices




Socialism vs. Social Democracy: Usage Guide
In the many years since socialism entered English around 1830, it has acquired several different meanings. It refers to a system of social organization in which private property and the distribution of income are subject to social control, but the conception of that control has varied, and the term has been interpreted in widely diverging ways, ranging from statist to libertarian, from Marxist to liberal. In the modern era, "pure" socialism has been seen only rarely and usually briefly in a few Communist regimes. Far more common are systems of social democracy, now often referred to as democratic socialism, in which extensive state regulation, with limited state ownership, has been employed by democratically elected governments (as in Sweden and Denmark) in the belief that it produces a fair distribution of income without impairing economic growth.
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Guille said:
You saying something is something doesn't make it true. As I've pointed out to you, Karl Marx wasn't born until 1818. The government operating the post office, or anything else, isn't socialism no matter how much you want it to be. Capitalism isn't even a form of government. But everyone else doesn't get it, right Evince?
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that is as stupid as saying elephants didnt exist until someone wrote about them
 
Guille said:
You saying something is something doesn't make it true. As I've pointed out to you, Karl Marx wasn't born until 1818. The government operating the post office, or anything else, isn't socialism no matter how much you want it to be. Capitalism isn't even a form of government. But everyone else doesn't get it, right Evince?
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Karl Marx did not create socialism. There were pre-existing socialist movements and there have long been non-Marxist forms of socialism.
 
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