That's a moronic strawman. No one claimed everyone in Gaza is evil asswhipe. What is it with terrorist loving, low IQ leftist liars and their propensity to make stupid shit up all the time?
What if Palestinians don't want peace?
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That's a moronic strawman. No one claimed everyone in Gaza is evil asswhipe. What is it with terrorist loving, low IQ leftist liars and their propensity to make stupid shit up all the time?
They have. Morons on the left called Dresden a war crime. Yes, they really are that fucking stupid and dishonest.
Asking you if you believe that given the chance these folks would elect someone that was willing to participate in a two state solution is "dehumanizing" Gaza? I call Bovine Feces on that...
Pretending that returning focus to Hamas, and recognizing that Israel is doing everything they can, including evacuating folks from the Gaza hospital themselves, to protect civilians even while Hamas builds military installations and headquarters beneath hospitals and civilian apartment buildings is "dehumanizing" folks in Gaza... Total rubbish...
If we are against Hamas it does not mean we are against Gaza. I get that. But pretending that Israel has demonstrated any other focus (as they literally use IDF to protect civilians from the Hamas folks who would force them to stay and to evacuate hospitals that Hamas is using as propaganda shields) is just pretense.
Rehumanizing Israel is not the same thing as "dehumanizing" Gaza.
Their stated goal is the annihilation of the Jewish State. Morons in the US who chant from "the river to the sea" are severely retarded and ignorant.
Yakuda
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Not just the Jewish state but Jews period.
BartenderElite
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Re: the bolded - I didn't mean to imply that you were doing that. I was just explaining the gist of my responses on this topic, and why I'm pointing out certain facts (i.e. that the population of Gaza is close to 40% children).
In general, there are quite a few efforts on this site to dehumanize the population there, and make it monolithic. This thread, for example.
Fair enough. I don't need to dehumanize Gaza, nor do I want to. I just want to point out that Israel has not been aiming to kill civilians and that they need a bit of rehumanization if we are going to understand what is going on there we need to get some real news out of there that is more than Hamas' propaganda messages.
I don't think they'd care so long as Jews didn't exist in the region. So, just the Jewish state it would seem.
I wonder if there is an alternate universe out there where they created a "Palestine" state instead of Israel and how that worked out for that Earth... Maybe I should try to write an alternate history book... but I'd need way more knowledge about Muslims in the area... Hmm...
Correct. Isn't it ironic when America hating leftists parrot terrorist propaganda ignorantly?
Sure.
They are the old historical 'original peoples' claims regardless of what you or I think of those.
The "Palestinian Peoples' (of which Jews are historical one of the "Palestinian peoples") claim a historical claim to that region that pre dates the Arab peoples being in that region.
that is why a two State solution makes the most sense between the Jews and Palestinian, as they BOTH have historical claims and if you are going to recognize one you should recognize both.
The Palestinians Claim Borders Created by Europeans as their Indigenous Homeland
The Forgotten History of the Term "Palestine"
You moron, Jews lived there for just as long as the Arabs. Syria, part of Iraq and ALL of Jordan were once the Palestinian territories that had Christians, Jews and Arab Muslims in it.
Those borders were drawn by Colonial Europeans. The notion that Palestinian Arabs can't live in Arab states is asinine. The truth be told, those that were part of the PLO terrorist network weren't wanted in Jordan, Syria, Iraq or Egypt. They kicked them out. Where was the whining and hand wringing then?
The notion that a tiny swath of land is simply too much for the Jewish people, many escaping the holocaust in Europe, is opined by uneducated morons and terrorists.
Here's a question for Jew hating leftist halfwits; why is it that Jordan cannot accommodate them? Or Syria? Or Iraq? Perhaps even Egypt? Israel encompasses a tiny fraction of the former territories.
Anyone with even half a brain can see why.
QP!
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I am not trying to make arguments for anyone's historical claim over the others. I have no dog in these ancient unwinnable battles.
What i am pointing out is that the main driver and funding for this conflict comes from Arab nations (Qatar, etc) who want NEITHER a nation of Israel nor a nation of Palestine on their doorstep.
that no peace between Israel and Palestine can be negotiated between the two as long as the Arab are flowing billions in to ensure peace is not achieved. Why do you think Arafat died with over $1B in his bank accounts? Do you think it pays well to be a leader of the PLO?
Read the highlights of the Khartoum Summit as the Arab nations united and were not interested in hiding their intent.
BidenPresident
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someone should kill you
Liar, you object to Israelis defending themselves by blaming them for the civilian deaths in Gaza which are caused by the brutal actions of Hamas which uses them as human shields and builds its networks and arms caches near or under schools, mosques and hospitals.
Yakuda
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I disagree. The initial hamas charter was very clear that they want the total elimination of Jews. The new charter says the same thing is nicer language.
If they could annihilate all Jews and Christians, they would. They've said so. Who knows; that dream might be close if Iran gets nukes.