Yakuda
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They do want peace but for them peace is death to all Jews
What if Palestinians don't want peace?
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They do want peace but for them peace is death to all Jews
Bigdog
Harris - make America a 3rd world shithole
She'd be a drag Queen.
BartenderElite
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I don't normally respond to you - but yes, I would. And I was against Hiroshima & Nagasaki.
Civilians should never be targeted in war.
Bigdog
Harris - make America a 3rd world shithole
Yeah, I know I drive you crazy with reality.
And we should have called for a ceasefire immediately after Pearl Harbor.
I'm glad you have the luxury to be a pacifist.
Do you believe that another election in Gaza would give us a different result or do you think, as many do, that they would elect yet another group of people who reject the "Two State Solution" and would continue to chant "from the river to the sea" chants that mean the total annihilation of Israel? Have you any real evidence that the people in Gaza would support a two state solution?
QP!
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It is not the Palestinian peoples who do not want Peace.
It IS the Palestinian leadership as propped up by certain neighboring Arab States that has never wanted peace.
That is why Israel/Palestine has been a no win situation for so long as the decision makers were not at the table, that being the certain Arab State leaders.
Understand that the only thing those Arab nations hate historically more than a Jewish State being on their doorstep, is Jewish State and a Palestinian State being on their doorstep.
Why? Because once the Palestinians have their own State, the need for them to contest Israel for land is near zero, They BOTH now have land. But understand the Palestinian peoples have CLAIMS against vast amounts of land in Arab Nations, including Oil rich land. So where do you think a new Palestinian State would focus it energies? Of course it would be to get some of their historical lands back from Arab nations.
That is why at the Khartoum Summit, the Arab nations united behind one written statement to WEAPONIZE Palestinian DESIRE for a homeland as a thing to attack Israel and to use Oil dollars to do so.
None of this is secret btw.
It IS the Palestinian leadership as propped up by certain neighboring Arab States that has never wanted peace.
That is why Israel/Palestine has been a no win situation for so long as the decision makers were not at the table, that being the certain Arab State leaders.
Understand that the only thing those Arab nations hate historically more than a Jewish State being on their doorstep, is Jewish State and a Palestinian State being on their doorstep.
Why? Because once the Palestinians have their own State, the need for them to contest Israel for land is near zero, They BOTH now have land. But understand the Palestinian peoples have CLAIMS against vast amounts of land in Arab Nations, including Oil rich land. So where do you think a new Palestinian State would focus it energies? Of course it would be to get some of their historical lands back from Arab nations.
That is why at the Khartoum Summit, the Arab nations united behind one written statement to WEAPONIZE Palestinian DESIRE for a homeland as a thing to attack Israel and to use Oil dollars to do so.
None of this is secret btw.
BartenderElite
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Who knows. I don't know what the people of Gaza are thinking right now.
But I do know that close to 40% of them are children.
And none of that changes any of the questions. So, your response is you just "don't know" but everything should stop because you have emotional responses to Hamas propaganda? Israel should just sit there and absorb terror attacks because there are people under 18 that live in Gaza under which the Hamas led government builds military headquarters and installations? Why does it take IDF forces to protect the civilians so they can leave the area? Is it because Hamas would not allow them to leave?
They have NEVER wanted peace in the region.
QP!
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Sure.
They are the old historical 'original peoples' claims regardless of what you or I think of those.
The "Palestinian Peoples' (of which Jews are historical one of the "Palestinian peoples") claim a historical claim to that region that pre dates the Arab peoples being in that region.
that is why a two State solution makes the most sense between the Jews and Palestinian, as they BOTH have historical claims and if you are going to recognize one you should recognize both.
The Palestinians Claim Borders Created by Europeans as their Indigenous Homeland
The Forgotten History of the Term "Palestine"
ExpressLane
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On October 5th the Palestinians had absolute control over the Gaza strip.
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Bigdog
Harris - make America a 3rd world shithole
Sure.
They are the old historical 'original peoples' claims regardless of what you or I think of those.
The "Palestinian Peoples' (of which Jews are historical one of the "Palestinian peoples") claim a historical claim to that region that pre dates the Arab peoples being in that region.
that is why a two State solution makes the most sense between the Jews and Palestinian, as they BOTH have historical claims and if you are going to recognize one you should recognize both.
The Palestinians Claim Borders Created by Europeans as their Indigenous Homeland
The Forgotten History of the Term "Palestine"
Thank you.
1. DNA tests of Palestinians suggest otherwise
2. Jordan is Muslim Palestine
3. Where are the "oil rich" lands?
4. Theocratic monarchs own the oil, not "any Peoples"
5. Gaza has been an independent, unoccupied state since 2005
6. Gaza got its 2 state solution and declared war on Israel
ExpressLane
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The Jews have offered a two state solution more than once the Palestinians have rejected it every time.Sure.
They are the old historical 'original peoples' claims regardless of what you or I think of those.
The "Palestinian Peoples' (of which Jews are historical one of the "Palestinian peoples") claim a historical claim to that region that pre dates the Arab peoples being in that region.
that is why a two State solution makes the most sense between the Jews and Palestinian, as they BOTH have historical claims and if you are going to recognize one you should recognize both.
The Palestinians Claim Borders Created by Europeans as their Indigenous Homeland
The Forgotten History of the Term "Palestine"
ExpressLane
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100% correct.
BartenderElite
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You're putting words in my mouth (or it seems that you are). I support Israel, and their right to retaliate against Hamas and seek justice.
I object to the attempts to dehumanize the population of Gaza based on assumptions and generalizations.
Into the Night
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Blatant lie. Hamas attacked Israel, dumbass.
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ExpressLane
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Sure.
They are the old historical 'original peoples' claims regardless of what you or I think of those.
The "Palestinian Peoples' (of which Jews are historical one of the "Palestinian peoples") claim a historical claim to that region that pre dates the Arab peoples being in that region.
that is why a two State solution makes the most sense between the Jews and Palestinian, as they BOTH have historical claims and if you are going to recognize one you should recognize both.
The Palestinians Claim Borders Created by Europeans as their Indigenous Homeland
The Forgotten History of the Term "Palestine"
If the Jews were there the first and had their land forcibly taken from them would you still feel the same.
STFU you brain dead hypocrite. Address your stupidity and hypocrisy. You're beyond a mere halfwit. Full blown dumbass.