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Define your 'Holy Spirit'. Can you?All these arguments are because the one arguing doesn't comprehend the Holy Spirit!
Define your 'Holy Spirit'. Can you?All these arguments are because the one arguing doesn't comprehend the Holy Spirit!
The Universe is not ordered.The universe is a system that is ordered, predictable, rational, and can be understood through mathematics.
Science would indeed be possible.Science wouldn't even be possible unless the universe was lawfully ordered, predictable, and rational.
Fallacy fallacy. The question was rational and logical. Answer the question put to you.^^ Illogical and irrational.
Fallacy fallacy. No attempt at a negative proof was ever suggested by IBDaMann.Lack of information in the human mind is not proof the universe is disordered, random, unpredictable.
The solar system is a VERY small part of the Universe, a Universe with no known boundaries. Thus, the solar system is infinitely small compared to the rest of the Universe, for all we know. You should also review the random number mathematics I presented just above.If we had perfect and complete information about the velocity, trajectory, momentum of all meteorite-sized bodies of mass in and near our solar system, the predictions would be accessible.
But it's not. The Universe is a random dust cloud.Einstein famously said the most incomprehensible thing about the universe is that it's comprehensible.
No, it doesn't.Sounds like panentheism or pantheism.
Quite right. It's like calling a die roll 'ordered' and 'predictable'.You don't get to call a random dust cloud (i.e. the universe) "predictable"; it's random and nobody can predict it.
You don't get to call a random dust cloud (i.e. the universe) "well ordered" when it doesn't fail a single randomness test.
You lose this one.
Correct. I was restating the rules for you.This is not a valid syllogism:
Correct. Nobody knows. The universe is not predictable.NASA doesn't know when the next 50 meteors will strike Earth.
Correct. Nobody knows. The universe is not predictable.CalTech doesn't know when the next 50 meteors will strike Earth.
Correct.Therefore, the universe is disordered, random, unpredictable.
It's not a syllogism.The only thing the two premises of the syllogism prove ...
Lack of information and lack of control are elements of a random system.is that the human mind lacks adequate and complete information.
What meteors specifically?The meteors themselves are following well defined physical laws of momentum and motion.
No syllogism was used. Go learn English.This is not a valid syllogism:
True. However, meteors strike the Earth every few minutes. During annual meteor showers, it's almost continuous. Most never make it to the surface, but they leave an ionized trail in the atmosphere that radio signals bounce off of. Most meteors are no bigger than a grain of sand.NASA doesn't know when the next 50 meteors will strike Earth.
Same as above.CalTech doesn't know when the next 50 meteors will strike Earth.
That is correct.Therefore, the universe is disordered, random, unpredictable.
There is no syllogism. Go learn English.The only thing the two premises of the syllogism prove is that the human mind lacks adequate and complete information.
The meteors themselves are following well defined physical laws of momentum and motion. They don't care about human ignorance.
Three dimensions of YHWh, Father,Son,Holy Spirit! Holy Spirit is your direct connection to YHWH.Define your 'Holy Spirit'. Can you?
Chanting is not defining. Try again.Three dimensions of YHWh, Father,Son,Holy Spirit! Holy Spirit is your direct connection to YHWH.
Chanting?Chanting is not defining. Try again.
DON'T TRY TO DENY YOUR OWN POSTS! Not a definition. Try again.Chanting?
Chanting? WTF are you talking about!DON'T TRY TO DENY YOUR OWN POSTS! Not a definition. Try again.
You are getting yourself all tripped up and confused.Nobody knows! The universe is not predictable!
You are the one who is confused. You are scientifically illiterate and mathematically incompetent. You have no place in this discussion.You are getting yourself all tripped up and confused.
It's a requirement for randomness. You keep avoiding admitting that the universe passes every test of randomness. This discussion was over before it began.Whether or not "nobody knows" is a statement about ignorance and lack of information.
Yes it is. If you weren't mathematically incompetent, you'd know this.It's not a proof that the universe is disorderly, unorganized, and random.
Nope. As long as you insist on wedging the word "rational" in there, your assertion will be false.Matter and energy in this universe are behaving in accordance with lawful, rational mathematical principles
Your chanting. RQAA. Evasion. DON'T TRY TO DENY YOUR OWN POSTS! Not a definition. Try again.Chanting? WTF are you talking about!
Nah. It's just YOU that's confused.You are getting yourself all tripped up and confused.
Nope. It's about randomness. Can you predict the next roll of the die? No. That's not ignorance. That's not a lack of information. It is simply a random number of type randR.Whether or not "nobody knows" is a statement about ignorance and lack of information.
The Universe is disorderly, unorganized, and random.It's not a proof that the universe is disorderly, unorganized, and random.
The Universe is not law. The Universe is not mathematics. Buzzword fallacies (rational, principles).Matter and energy in this universe are behaving in accordance with lawful, rational mathematical principles.
Contextomy fallacy. Random numbers are not about ignorance or lack of information, Cyborg.They don't care if you are ignorant about it or lack sufficient information to describe it.
$20 says Sybil has never been threatened by management with Rule #14. Wanna guess who has been threatened several times? LOLYou are getting yourself all tripped up and confused.
Whether or not "nobody knows" is a statement about ignorance and lack of information. It's not a proof that the universe is disorderly, unorganized, and random.
Matter and energy in this universe are behaving in accordance with lawful, rational mathematical principles. They don't care if you are ignorant about it or lack sufficient information to describe it.