What god did Einstein believe in?

[Into the Night]

All these arguments are because the one arguing doesn't comprehend the Holy Spirit!

Define your 'Holy Spirit'. Can you?

 

[Into the Night]

The universe is a system that is ordered, predictable, rational, and can be understood through mathematics.

The Universe is not ordered.
The word 'rational' or 'irrational' does not apply here. Buzzword fallacy. Go learn English.
The Universe is not a prediction.
The Universe is not mathematics.

Science wouldn't even be possible unless the universe was lawfully ordered, predictable, and rational.

Science would indeed be possible.
The Universe is not ordered. It is not law. It is not a prediction. Buzzword fallacy (rational).

 

[Into the Night]

^^ Illogical and irrational.

Fallacy fallacy. The question was rational and logical. Answer the question put to you.
You say the Universe is predictable. Therefore, predict when and where the next meteor will strike the Earth, how big it is, and what it's made of.

Lack of information in the human mind is not proof the universe is disordered, random, unpredictable.

Fallacy fallacy. No attempt at a negative proof was ever suggested by IBDaMann.
The Universe is a random dust cloud. It is not anything else. Indeed, the Universe itself is a perfect randR generator (infinity/2 capable).
Given any coordinate in the Universe (regardless of where you pick as 0,0,0,0), whether any particle of dust that occupies that point is 2 results (yes or no), over an infinite number of points. This forms a perfect randR generator.

If we had perfect and complete information about the velocity, trajectory, momentum of all meteorite-sized bodies of mass in and near our solar system, the predictions would be accessible.

The solar system is a VERY small part of the Universe, a Universe with no known boundaries. Thus, the solar system is infinitely small compared to the rest of the Universe, for all we know. You should also review the random number mathematics I presented just above.

The Universe is a random dust cloud. It is not ordered. It is not any theory of science. It is not mathematics.

The word 'rational' refers to mathematics and logic, not the Universe. Mathematics was created by Man. Logic was created by Man. The Universe is not sentient;

 

[Into the Night]

Einstein famously said the most incomprehensible thing about the universe is that it's comprehensible.

But it's not. The Universe is a random dust cloud.

Sounds like panentheism or pantheism.

No, it doesn't.

Pantheism is a belief in a higher power (like a god), but with no discernible form or personage). The word itself means 'all religion' or 'whole religion'.

 

[Into the Night]

You don't get to call a random dust cloud (i.e. the universe) "predictable"; it's random and nobody can predict it.

You don't get to call a random dust cloud (i.e. the universe) "well ordered" when it doesn't fail a single randomness test.

You lose this one.

Quite right. It's like calling a die roll 'ordered' and 'predictable'.

 

[IBDaMann]

This is not a valid syllogism:

Correct. I was restating the rules for you.

NASA doesn't know when the next 50 meteors will strike Earth.

Correct. Nobody knows. The universe is not predictable.

CalTech doesn't know when the next 50 meteors will strike Earth.

Correct. Nobody knows. The universe is not predictable.

Therefore, the universe is disordered, random, unpredictable.​

Correct.

The only thing the two premises of the syllogism prove ...

It's not a syllogism.

is that the human mind lacks adequate and complete information.

Lack of information and lack of control are elements of a random system.

The meteors themselves are following well defined physical laws of momentum and motion.

What meteors specifically?

 

[Into the Night]

This is not a valid syllogism:

No syllogism was used. Go learn English.

NASA doesn't know when the next 50 meteors will strike Earth.

True. However, meteors strike the Earth every few minutes. During annual meteor showers, it's almost continuous. Most never make it to the surface, but they leave an ionized trail in the atmosphere that radio signals bounce off of. Most meteors are no bigger than a grain of sand.

CalTech doesn't know when the next 50 meteors will strike Earth.

Same as above.

Therefore, the universe is disordered, random, unpredictable.

That is correct.

The only thing the two premises of the syllogism prove is that the human mind lacks adequate and complete information.

The meteors themselves are following well defined physical laws of momentum and motion. They don't care about human ignorance.

There is no syllogism. Go learn English.
The observable Universe is a random dust cloud. There is no reason to suspect that changes for the remainder of the Universe, which has no known boundaries.

The meteors themselves are part of that same random dust cloud.

The solar system is an infinitely small space in a Universe with no known boundaries. The solar system itself is part of that random dust cloud. Even in the solar system are random hydrogen atoms, asteroids, dust, moons, planets, and of course our local star which we call the Sun.

Once in a while a bit of dust gets too close to Earth (wherever it happens to be in it's orbit) and gets sucked into Earth's gravitational field. This is the mostly sand that enters Earth's atmosphere every few seconds.

There are radio systems that make use of these ionized trails to send brief telemetry packets from remote stations to a central monitoring station. Communication via meteor trail was first investigated by radio amateurs, and is now used commercially.

But, the propagation path is unpredictable. You have to detect the path being opened by a trail in the right place, link up, send your packet, and get off before the trail disappears. Not much time to send a lot of data. It's good for telemetry work from remote locations, though.

 

[Margot]

Define your 'Holy Spirit'. Can you?

Three dimensions of YHWh, Father,Son,Holy Spirit! Holy Spirit is your direct connection to YHWH.

 

[Into the Night]

Three dimensions of YHWh, Father,Son,Holy Spirit! Holy Spirit is your direct connection to YHWH.

Chanting is not defining. Try again.