What god did Einstein believe in?

Agreed on the difference between a universe we can prove and others that are theoretical.

The logic I go with is threefold:
1. Everything with an inside has an outside.
2. The Universe had a specific origin and all current evidence points to a definite end, the Big Chill, not an oscillating universe.
3. Like finding a weed in one's yard or a cockroach in a restaurant, despite the factual evidence, or lack thereof, there's no reason to believe there's only one.

Sound reasoning overall.

Even when I was flirting with atheism, there were nagging questions which ultimately kept me from taking a full blown leap into Richard Dawkins militant atheism.

The reasoning went as follows.

Something can't come from nothing.
The rational can't come from the irrational.
Mathematical rationality and lawful order can't come from inanimate random chance.
 
Sound reasoning overall.

Even when I was flirting with atheism, there were nagging questions which ultimately kept me from taking a full blown leap into Richard Dawkins militant atheism.

The reasoning went as follows.

Something can't come from nothing.
The rational can't come from the irrational.
Mathematical rationality and lawful order can't come from inanimate random chance.
Agreed on all points. We can speculate on causes and theories about supernatural phenomena, but the facts remain that we can only know (at this point) what exists within our natural universe.

caused by forces that cannot be explained by science
 
masons always want to claim the throne of logic, but when all their nihilist plans fail they like to have the religious blurring of reason to fall back on to implement their eugenics plans through religious war.

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What god did Einstein believe in, anyway?​

Einstein “was a pantheist who maintained certain Jewish traditions,” and he preferred to be called an agnostic and disliked militant atheists.
"I want to know God’s thoughts,” Albert Einstein once said. “The rest are mere details.” True quote. But what did Einstein mean by “God”?​

He was raised a Jew, and likely believed in the God of Abraham . . . at least for a while. So folk like to claim him as one of their “own.” But then, so do atheists.

In truth, Einstein was likely at neither extreme, according to this new article at Big Think. The article cites a 1936 letter a sixth-grade girl wrote to Einstein, asking, “Do scientists pray, and what do they pray for?”

In his reply, Einstein wrote, “Everyone who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that some spirit is manifest in the laws of the universe, one that is vastly superior to that of man. In this way the pursuit of science leads to a religious feeling of a special sort, which is surely quite different from the religiosity of someone more naive.”

Scholars generally agree that the theoretical physicist was an actual pantheist, believing that God is “in everything,” or that all is “at one with God.” In particular, as Einstein once told a rabbi, “I believe in Spinoza’s God, who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fate and the doings of mankind.”

Big Think concludes that Einstein “was a pantheist who maintained certain Jewish traditions,” and that he “preferred to be called an agnostic and disliked militant atheists.



The one most jews do. Moloch.
 
Agreed on all points. We can speculate on causes and theories about supernatural phenomena, but the facts remain that we can only know (at this point) what exists within our natural universe.

caused by forces that cannot be explained by science
Agreed, these ultimately become philosophical questions, not scientific questions, because they most likely cannot be answered by the scientific method.

I think most people who really understand the hard physical sciences marvel at the mathematical rationality, lawful organization, and intelligibility of the universe. Einstein famously said the most incomprehensible thing about the universe is that it's comprehensible.

For my money, you would expect a universe caused by pure irrational inanimate random chance to be unlawful, unorganized, disordered, irrational, unintelligible, and not finely tuned.
 
Agreed, these ultimately become philosophical questions, not scientific questions, because they most likely cannot be answered by the scientific method.
no they don't.
I think most people who really understand the hard physical sciences marvel at the mathematical rationality, lawful organization, and intelligibility of the universe. Einstein famously said the most incomprehensible thing about the universe is that it's comprehensible.
matter and energy behaving relatively consistently is not a miracle or evidence of a creator god.
 
matter and energy behaving relatively consistently is not a miracle or evidence of a creator god.
The last science class you had was ninth grade, and at that educational level you are taught about the regularity and intelligibility of nature by rote memorization. You wouldn't have been encouraged to ask the deeper questions about why the universe should even be lawful, rational, and intelligible in the first place.

Questions like that wouldn't have even occured to you with your middle school science background.
 
The last science class you had was ninth grade, and at that educational level you are taught about the regularity and intelligibility of nature by rote memorization. You wouldn't have been encouraged to ask the deeper questions about why the universe should even be lawful, rational, and intelligible in the first place.

Questions like that wouldn't have even occured to you with your middle school science background.
matter and energy behaving relatively consistently is not a miracle or evidence of a creator god, your elitism aside.
 
Agreed, these ultimately become philosophical questions, not scientific questions, because they most likely cannot be answered by the scientific method.

I think most people who really understand the hard physical sciences marvel at the mathematical rationality, lawful organization, and intelligibility of the universe. Einstein famously said the most incomprehensible thing about the universe is that it's comprehensible.

For my money, you would expect a universe caused by pure irrational inanimate random chance to be unlawful, unorganized, disordered, irrational, unintelligible, and not finely tuned.
At present, correct. Quantum physics is well above my knowledge base, but seems to be looking deep into the structure of the Universe and, perhaps, beyond it.

Agreed an irrational universe would be unlikely to produce life, much less intelligence, but in the multiverse theory, they would exist...as dead as they are.

If means were developed to look into parallel universes, I'm certain that more than a few will be found to be dark and empty. Dead universes would be akin to this Bible verse: Matthew 13:3-8

3 And He told them many things in parables, saying, “A farmer went out to sow his seed.

4 And as he was sowing, some seed fell along the path, and the birds came and devoured it.


5 Some fell on rocky ground, where it did not have much soil. It sprang up quickly because the soil was shallow. 6But when the sun rose, the seedlings were scorched, and they withered because they had no root.

7 Other seed fell among thorns, which grew up and choked the seedlings.


8 Still other seed fell on good soil and produced a crop—a hundredfold, sixtyfold, or thirtyfold.
 
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matter and energy behaving relatively consistently is not a miracle or evidence of a creator god, your elitism aside.
You don't have the education level to even conceive of or frame the deeper questions.

The rote memorization they taught in your ninth grade science class did not encourage you to think logically, philosophically, existentially. Surprisingly, modern high school science education does not even teach formal logic. Logic has been almost purged from high school education.

The least likely explanation or inference is that matter, rationality, lawful organization, intelligibility, fine tuning was somehow caused by inanimate, irrational, pure random chance.
 
You don't have the education level to even conceive of or frame the deeper questions.

The rote memorization they taught in your ninth grade science class did not encourage you to think logically, philosophically, existentially. Surprisingly, modern high school science education does not even teach formal logic. Logic has been almost purged from high school education.

The least likely explanation or inference is that matter, rationality, lawful organization, intelligibility, fine tuning was somehow caused by inanimate, irrational, pure random chance.
how did you determine that random chance is the least likely explanation?

did you pull it out of your poop chute?
 
You don't have the education level to even conceive of or frame the deeper questions.

The rote memorization they taught in your ninth grade science class did not encourage you to think logically, philosophically, existentially. Surprisingly, modern high school science education does not even teach formal logic. Logic has been almost purged from high school education.

The least likely explanation or inference is that matter, rationality, lawful organization, intelligibility, fine tuning was somehow caused by inanimate, irrational, pure random chance.
Freaky Freddie lacks the rationality to learn. It's one reason why he's such a great patsy for his militia and a lackey for his globalist Orange King.
 
At present, correct. Quantum physics is well above my knowledge base, but seems to be looking deep into the structure of the Universe and, perhaps, beyond it.

Agreed an irrational universe would be unlikely to produce life, much less intelligence, but in the multiverse theory, they would exist...as dead as they are.

If means were developed to look into parallel universes, I'm certain that more than a few will be found to be dark and empty. Dead universes would be akin to this Bible verse: Matthew 13:3-8

3 And He told them many things in parables, saying, “A farmer went out to sow his seed.

4 And as he was sowing, some seed fell along the path, and the birds came and devoured it.


5 Some fell on rocky ground, where it did not have much soil. It sprang up quickly because the soil was shallow. 6But when the sun rose, the seedlings were scorched, and they withered because they had no root.

7 Other seed fell among thorns, which grew up and choked the seedlings.


8 Still other seed fell on good soil and produced a crop—a hundredfold, sixtyfold, or thirtyfold.
Good analogy to Mathew (y)

The quantum framework is arguably the best science humanity has ever done. But even then, quantum physics tells us nothing about the cause, origin, and purpose (if any) of physical reality and the cosmos.

The only idea we have that is a viable theory of everything is string theory. And that won't be testable for centuries, if ever. String theory still doesn't answer the fundamental questions about "why?"

Many scientists I've listened to say there are mysteries we will likely never have scientific answers to: the cause and origin of the universe, the origin of life, why and how atomic matter attains conciousness.

Douglas Adams said the answer to life, the universe, and everything is 42. 🤣
 
Good analogy to Mathew (y)

The quantum framework is arguably the best science humanity has ever done. But even then, quantum physics tells us nothing about the cause, origin, and purpose (if any) of physical reality and the cosmos.

The only idea we have that is a viable theory of everything is string theory. And that won't be testable for centuries, if ever. String theory still doesn't answer the fundamental questions about "why?"

Many scientists I've listened to say there are mysteries we will likely never have scientific answers to: the cause and origin of the universe, the origin of life, why and how atomic matter attains conciousness.
Not with our current level of tech. It was only 120 years ago that people said "Man will never fly" and even fewer years when they said "Man will never go to the Moon".

Provided we don't destroy modern civilization and put us back into the Stone Age, if not incinerate the planet, I have faith the answers will eventually be found.
 
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