What conclusions can you draw?

[LV426]

, show us that in any stature ever written, in reality the POTUS has Constitutional plenary power to declaasify and classify at will, would you like the case law you dumb mother fucker?

I love being able to shut idiots like you up with just one link: https://www.justice.gov/archives/open/declassification/declassification-faq

 

[LV426]

Then why did Timothy Thibault resign?

No one cares.

Why did Trump steal documents, lie about it, and then stash the evidence all over his shithole hotel?

 

[Shoresy]

Yes there is.

There is an entire formal process that has to be undertaken before a document can be declassified, and Trump's lawyers have already admitted he didn't follow it: https://www.justice.gov/archives/open/declassification/declassification-faq

That's for unelected bureaucrats not the President you retarded pos.

 

[Shoresy]

No one cares.

Why did Trump steal documents, lie about it, and then stash the evidence all over his shithole hotel?

How does the President steal his own Presidential Documents retard?

 

[LV426]

Who has top secret clearance above the POTUS?

It's not about top secret clearance, it's about what you are allowed to do if you have that clearance.

Arbitrarily declassifying documents retroactively is not something POTUS is allowed to do.

Here are the FAQs, and you'll find nothing in it has anything to do with Trump magically declaring something declassified after the fact: https://www.justice.gov/archives/open/declassification/declassification-faq

 

[Joe Capitalist]

You claim he lied. If he didn't know the documents were there--being casually tossed into wherever--and thought the Archives had gotten everything... Then it's just a case of his being sloppy and unknowing about them.

Wow! Is that the defense you're going with now, T.A. Gargler? Good luck with that. Makes you look like a fucking fool.
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[T. A. Gardner]

There are 25 secret document folders in his possession with no documents in them

Where are those documents?

If they were up your ass we'd know about it...

 

[Shoresy]

I love being able to shut idiots like you up with just one link: https://www.justice.gov/archives/open/declassification/declassification-faq

That has nothing to do with the President, the entire classification process is by Executive Order not statute you literal retard.

 

[LV426]

The election was overtly unconstitutional.

If you believed this, then how come you sat here on JPP on 1/6 shitposting instead of going to DC to do something about the election you think was unconstitutional?

Because all you've done is sit here and run that big, fat, fucking mouth of yours on JPP, but all that shitposting seems to be just phony baloney nonsense you don't even believe yourself.

 

[LV426]

The Constitution

Where in the Constitution????

 

[Joe Capitalist]

Why don't you explain how the President can steal Presidential Documents you dumb fuck? While you're at it who do you think has authority over the classification process above the President? I'll wait.

The Director of the NSA.
Now, admit you were wrong about POTUS having ultimate authority over all classified material. You just made it up because you know you're losing this debate and making shit up is the only defense you have. Come on, Shitsy. Do you have the balls to admit you were wrong?
I doubt it.

 

[LV426]

You claim he lied.

He did lie.

His own lawyers admitted as such.

So he lied about taking documents, lied about declassifying them, and lied about hiding them throughout his shithole hotel.

He lied and said he took 15 boxes of documents, but it was actually more like 29. So he lied when he only gave half of the documents he stole.

If he didn't know the documents were there

Of course he knew they were there he bitched about them taking documents from his personal safe.

Stop.

and thought the Archives had gotten everything..

He knew the archives didn't get everything because he literally bitched about them going into his safe.

Then it's just a case of his being sloppy and unknowing about them.

He knew about them because he complained about the FBI cracking his safe.

 

[LV426]

And the President was our elected representative heading the Executive you dumb fuck, who do you think has authority over the classification process above the POTUS?

Right, he heads the executive branch, but he is still a government employee.

So nothing is his that he didn't buy with his own or someone else's money, including the documents he stole.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

So in your fascist state where representative democracy isn't a thing you believe the Intel community is above rhe President. Go goosestep off a fucking cliff.

Don't have a little hissy fit just because I called out you're fucking bullshit lie and made you look like a fucking MAGA moron.
Go suck Trump's dick some more. It'll make you feel better.

 

[LV426]

The Director of the NSA.

100% correct...the NSA Director has authority over the President when it comes to declassification.

 

[evince]

If they were up your ass we'd know about it...

If trump would have touched me without my permissions he would have fewer hands now

Only MAGAt women enjoy being mauled by ugly dirty old men

 

[Joe Capitalist]

And the President was our elected representative heading the Executive you dumb fuck, who do you think has authority over the classification process above the POTUS?

Trump was no longer the president when he was in possession of the classified docs. Now what bullshit are you gonna make up to support your lame argument this time, Shitsy?

 

[Jarod]

That we live in an authoritarian banana republic with a ministry of propaganda instead of a free press. The President can't "steal" Presidential Documents, top secret or otherwise. In reality this unprecedented act of DOJ corruption was about one thing; seizing the declassified spygate dossier that the jack booted gestapo at the FBI were given a direct Presidential order to redact and release two years ago. We already know that the gangster Timothy Thibault was involved but after we take the House there will be real investigations and more names will be revealed leaving it to We the People to take direct action against these seditious conspirators where they sleep.

The tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of Patriots and tyrants,, death to the banana republic and death to all alphabet agencies, Sic Semper Tyrannis!

Pop Quiz on the Law: Who owns presidential documents?

 

[Joe Capitalist]

100% correct...the NSA Director has authority over the President when it comes to declassification.

The MAGA morons have to believe that Trump had ultimate authority to declassify. Otherwise they'd have you admit Trump committed a crime.
They'll hold on to that bullshit like it's Trump's little weeny.

 

[Jarod]

Cherry picked information. Since others were found mixed in with clothes, miscellaneous stuff, photos and whatnot, I'd say that Trump likely didn't even know about or particularly care that he had those documents. If he did, he wouldn't have been so cavalier about where they were scattered about.

THat is one theory.