We're a pro-choice nation

[Into the Night]

I won't argue with that, neither are Democrats.

Blatant lie.

 

[Into the Night]

willfully and without legal justification killing of an unborn. It also only applies to a "quick" child or one that can be seen obviously moving inside the mother, approximately 18 weeks. Since an abortion is legal and the vast majority of them are performed well before 18 weeks feticide laws don't apply.

Blatant lie.

 

[Into the Night]

How many women who got an abortion are sitting in a cell after having been found guilty of murder? None, you comment is fucking stupid. abortions are legal dumbshit.

Irrelevant. Murder is murder. Abortion is murder.

 

[Into the Night]

So you are for a woman's choice of her body being the states choice not hers?

What about the body of the child, dumbass?

 

[Into the Night]

Hello ptif219,



It is not a child if it has not been born. Children have birthdays.

It is a child even if not born yet.
It will never be a pig, a chicken, a goat, a frog, or anything else. It is a HUMAN CHILD.

 

[Into the Night]

I can honestly say in all sincerity that I can't even begin to understand the above, TOP.
It defies everything I perceive as reality.

When they cut the umbilical cord, the entity becomes a human being.
Up until then, it's a part of the woman to do with what she pleases.
That what I see in the real world in which I live.

You're not charged with two murders in Massachusetts, by the way.

So if you cut the umbilical cord, and you let the child die of starvation, you don't call that murder either, right?

Abortion is murder. No one has the right to murder.

 

[Into the Night]

No.

These states say it is a child. More to come.



Tracking the States Where Abortion Is Now Banned
The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com › abortion-laws-roe-v-wade
Most abortions are now banned in 13 states following the Supreme Court's decision to overturn Roe v. Wade. Georgia also bans abortion at about six weeks of ...

19, actually. They are:

Alabama, Arkansas, Idaho, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, West Virginia, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Utah, Indiana, Wyoming, and Ohio.

Yes...more are pending, particularly the States of Iowa, Montana, and Nebraska.

And good for each and every one of them, for they have taken steps to outlaw the murder of unborn children.

 

[Into the Night]

Hello Walt,



Some are. Look at Oklahoma.

Far right wing Republican extremists: 'Unborn' lives matter. Black lives do not matter. Gun victim's lives don't matter. Impoverished lives don't matter. Rich white male lives do matter. Money is their god. They worship a lying billionaire criminal defendant.

You are describing yourself.

You hate children. You advocate murdering them. You advocate sexually mutilating them. You advocate 'gun free zones' where psychopaths (that DEMOCRATS created!) are free to shoot up schools. You allow their lives to be ruined by destructive drugs like fentanyl and heroin. You impoverish them by advocating welfare, homeless, and unchecked crime in cities. Joe Biden is a rich white male and the damage he has done so far is great.

You support political persecution. Trump has committed no crime and you cannot name any crime he committed.

Money is YOUR God. You advocate stealing it from others, measuring success by the amount of money one has (unless they are a conservative, of course!), and you deny how rich Joe Biden is, or the Clintons, or Obama, or Soros, ALL gained through criminal activity.

You're a liar dude. Projecting YOUR problems on someone else is known as an inversion fallacy.

It is unconstitutional to ban or limit guns.
Your racism is not welcome here.
Using children and the poor as pawns is not welcome here.

 

[Into the Night]

You don't have a dog in the fight

YES HE DOES. Protecting human life is EVERYONE's responsibility, even from murderers like the ones you support.

 

[Into the Night]

Hello Port Tack,



Thank you.

I would add:

How could terminating a fetus be murder if a fetus is not counted in the Census, or for the purposes of drawing district lines for Congress?

Again using children as a mere pawn. You hate children. Don't try to hide it.

 

[Into the Night]

You can't make a chicken dinner out of an egg.

An egg is an egg. A chicken is a chicken.

An egg is not a chicken until it hatches.

A fertilized chicken egg is a chicken. It will never be anything else but a chicken.
Now you advocate cannibalism!

 

[Into the Night]

Jewish law does not share the belief common among abortion opponents that life begins at conception, nor does it legally consider the fetus to be a full person deserving of protections equal those accorded to human beings. In Jewish law, a fetus attains the status of a full person only at birth.

So now you are advocating murder based on Jewish law!

 

[Into the Night]

You have no right to force a girl to give birth to a baby that can be malformed, or a terrible burden to a person's life. Abortion has financial and equal rights implications. It can impact a family's wealth and even the ability to survive well. That is a price a girl pays.
Again, if you are really against abortion, you can cut them back by setting up funding to support a child that a family knows it cannot support. Provide, food, healthcare, and education then a girl may decide she can handle a kid. Just saying I do not believe in abortion, therefore you should not have one is repulsive. You are imposing all the hardships on a girl and then walking away.

She chose her hardship. No one forced it upon her. Murder only makes it worse.

 

[Into the Night]

I completely fail to understand how allowing unqualified parents to raise a child is preferable to sparing that fetus life as an unwanted child.
To me, it seems inhumanly cruel.

A lousy life, or even a mediocre life, is a Draconian sentence, not a gift.
What kind of mentality believes that even a miserable life is worth living?
My mind has simply never worked that way, nor even understood how others could.

To me, abortion is an act of mercy, where others see it as murder.
How can people who, in all sincerity and good conscience, think so differently
possibly co-exist peacefully?

It's obvious that they can't, and as a result, America as it exits today will never, ever be a peaceful place.
We see that plainly right now.
We shoot each others' asses off almost every single day.
I don't so much as blink an eye at it anymore.
How else could it be?

You don't get to determine who is 'qualified' to be a parent.

 

[Into the Night]

C'mon, TOP. What makes you think so many women want to believe that all they are doing is eliminating cells when they get an abortion?

Because morons like you and other Democrats told them. What you told them is wrong and evil.

I doubt more than a tiny minority of women (or men) feel that is what is happening.

Yet you idiots teach them this evil.

A pregnancy is being terminated. It is not a happy affair...there is no joy in it.

BUT IT SHOULD BE THE WOMAN'S CHOICE.

WRONG. It is murder. There is no right to murder.

It is just some cells being eliminated...

IT IS NOT! It is a human life that is being terminated.

nor is it a baby being killed.

It is a HUMAN BABY that is being killed.

It is a pregnancy being terminated...

It is a HUMAN BABY that is being killed.

often the result of a heartbreaking decision by a woman.

And you think murdering her child is going to solve her problem???

The anti-choice people ought to get the hell off their high-horses...

Cliche fallacy.

and try to see this difficulty in an adult way.

Mantra 1i.

Calling people a child is not going to change anything.

Abortion is murder.

 

[Into the Night]

I don't know any Democrats who "want abortion up to birth". I also don't know any women (myself included) who would wake up right before delivery and say "I changed my mind - just abort this thing".

Argument of ignorance fallacy.

 

[zymurgy]

I don't know any Democrats who "want abortion up to birth". I also don't know any women (myself included) who would wake up right before delivery and say "I changed my mind - just abort this thing".

Americans are far more reasonable on these issues than our politicians are - and our media is now essentially just an extension of one of the two parties - and we are being exploited.

I think for America to heal as a single nation, ending Roe v Wade - and the one size fits all policy is good for the country. That was never really sound law - it was a politically expedient win for one side in the cause, and nothing more.

 

[Ross Dolan]

WRONG. Murder is the intentional and offensive taking of a human life. It is not a 'legal term'. Abortion is murder. Legalizing murder does not change the fact that it's murder.

You do not know what you are talking about, but to be fair, that has never stopped you from talking.

 

[Ross Dolan]

Blatant lie. Go read the Bible.

I have read the Bible...and abortion is not mentioned even once.

You know that, but you are supposing you can sell your bullshit.

Quote every passage from the Bible that mentions abortion.

 

[Ross Dolan]

Childish mimicry, Inversion fallacy.

I got yer inversion fallacy swingin'!