We're a pro-choice nation

"If a woman chooses abortion and you stop her, it is your job to educate and feed the kid."

Nonsense, Nordy. It is the responsibility of the parents to feed their children.

We do support children after they are born. Our Catholic Charities feeds many children...and adults in our parish

No one forces a woman to have a child...except in a rape. If they don't want children, don't have children.

So you are saying that if the child is the product of a rape...there is an exception?

Careful now!
 
And getting more so. Close to 60% consistently in polls support a woman's right to choose.

Everyone has the same goal: make abortions rare.

But keep them legal. It's middle ages stuff to ban them.

Polls are deceptive. But you have to have an IQ above room temperature to comprehend the obvious.

This country is not pro-abortion at any time and any reason. In fact, the entire leftist argument with Roe Vs Wade was that abortions should be legal, safe and RARE, which is where most people reside on the issue. The Democratic Party of Lying Jackasses threw that baby out of the bath water a long time ago.
 
... an "ear of corn" starts with germination of a seed but that speck of green that first emerges from the soil isn't an ear of corn. A pregnant woman "having" a child means she doesn't have one yet so what she does have is not a child.

This is just word gaming for evading the issue.

You are wrong. Once conception happens her child starts to develop in her womb
 
Even if that is true, which it might not be, the thing I disputed was, "There is a child in the womb."

When most abortions take place...THERE IS NO CHILD IN THE WOMB.

So the fact that an oak tree "starts" as an acorn...does not mean that if you pick up an acorn, you have picked up an oak tree.

So...now show some spine and offer a "fact" that has some meaning.

That is the child devolping in the Mothers womb. No abortion a child is born. Abortion no child. So abortion kills the child
 
If conception has happened the Mother is killing her child

Your point?
If she doesn't give a shit, she doesn't give a shit,
and YOU certainly have no business giving a shit.
I certainly don't.

Nobody is forcing you to have an abortion, so it's none of your business.
 
That is the child devolping in the Mothers womb. No abortion a child is born. Abortion no child. So abortion kills the child

There is no child in the womb. Often an abortion merely expels a clump of cells. It is no more a living human than is a cancer tumor.
 
You know better than that....

You should know better than what you think, TOP. But I suspect some kind of religious thing is in play. For most abortions...all that is being aborted is a clump of cells. If that could finally be acknowledged, some progress might take place. But as long as your side wants to describe a zygote as a living human...no further progress will ever occur. And while you may think your side has made recent progress...it is ephemeral.
 
The unborn child has a heart, lungs, brain and DNA.

If you kill this unborn child, you have killed a human being.

If the unborn child were not alive, how can you kill the unborn child?


Six Months Post-Roe, 24 US States Have Banned Abortion ...

I would call that excellent progress…more to come.
 
You should know better than what you think, TOP. But I suspect some kind of religious thing is in play. For most abortions...all that is being aborted is a clump of cells. If that could finally be acknowledged, some progress might take place. But as long as your side wants to describe a zygote as a living human...no further progress will ever occur. And while you may think your side has made recent progress...it is ephemeral.
Nothing to do with religion at all...abortion was never an issue when I was growing up....I don't recall discussing that in Sunday school, vacation bible school...or at home, after church, ever....and I don't have a "side"...I'm really not political....I'm quite the blend of conservative and liberal if we were to break it down....
I do...and think...what's right for me...That's how I was raised....
Btw...You developed from a "clump of cells"...we all do...we're here because our development was not terminated... I'm pretty sure we all received prenatal care from our moms, and were celebrated long before our actual birth...It's just that simple...
I don't know what you mean by "progress being made being ephemeral"...when is it wrong to make progress? Especially when it's an effort to reduce hundreds of thousands of terminations?
 
Nothing to do with religion at all...abortion was never an issue when I was growing up....I don't recall discussing that in Sunday school, vacation bible school...or at home, after church, ever....and I don't have a "side"...I'm really not political....I'm quite the blend of conservative and liberal if we were to break it down....
I do...and think...what's right for me...That's how I was raised....
Btw...You developed from a "clump of cells"...we all do...we're here because our development was not terminated... I'm pretty sure we all received prenatal care from our moms, and were celebrated long before our actual birth...It's just that simple...
I don't know what you mean by "progress being made being ephemeral"...when is it wrong to make progress? Especially when it's an effort to reduce hundreds of thousands of terminations?

"Ephemeral" (transitory).

You know, like Biden's transitory inflation.
 
Nothing to do with religion at all...abortion was never an issue when I was growing up....I don't recall discussing that in Sunday school, vacation bible school...or at home, after church, ever....and I don't have a "side"...I'm really not political....I'm quite the blend of conservative and liberal if we were to break it down....
I do...and think...what's right for me...That's how I was raised....
Btw...You developed from a "clump of cells"...we all do...we're here because our development was not terminated... I'm pretty sure we all received prenatal care from our moms, and were celebrated long before our actual birth...It's just that simple...
I don't know what you mean by "progress being made being ephemeral"...when is it wrong to make progress? Especially when it's an effort to reduce hundreds of thousands of terminations?

Going in the direction conservative America on the question of a woman's right to choose to abort a pregnancy occurring in her own body...IS NOT PROGRESS. IT IS REGRESSION ON A COSMIC SCALE.

The regression conservative America is making on this question...is ephemeral.

It is too bad so many women will suffer until the disgusting damage being done to women's rights is finally corrected by sane people.
 
The "lump of cells" phase of life has no agreed upon definition.

if the clump is wanted and celebrated, it's a coming baby.

If it's not, it's virtually a malignant tumor.

What we must remember is that the clump doesn't give a fat flying fuck--it definitely doesn't--
so the host mother is the only one with a right to decide.

How is this not obvious?
I really don't understand the very damaged thought process of some people.
 
The unborn child has no say as to whether it lives or dies.

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

The right to life of the unborn child is a God given right.
 
Going in the direction conservative America on the question of a woman's right to choose to abort a pregnancy occurring in her own body...IS NOT PROGRESS. IT IS REGRESSION ON A COSMIC SCALE.

The regression conservative America is making on this question...is ephemeral.

It is too bad so many women will suffer until the disgusting damage being done to women's rights is finally corrected by sane people.
I guess we still are going to have to agree to disagree...and that's ok...
 
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