We Should Offer Friendship And Forgiveness To Trump Supporters Without Shaming

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They have been betrayed.

We should welcome them back to considerate society.

They must feel foolish for having been taken in.

We should comfort them, and let them know we are happy to be their fellow Americans, and we have had their back the whole time, even if the President has let them down.

Anybody can make a mistake.

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If this thread is stolen, plagiarized, will the thief have the nerve to use the entire OP, word for word? Including this disclaimer?

If you want my take on it, you'll have to post to this original PoliTalker thread. I refuse to be an enabler for online bullies, so I won't post to a stolen thread. I won't even read it.

Thread thievery is the tool of trolls. It's what people do when they have been so impolite they got banned from a conversation. And then they're sorry and they feel left out. So they steal the thread, call it their own. Then they think they can be in the original conversation. But they can't. If you think thread thievery is cheap and low then don't support it. Save your comments for the original PoliTalker thread. PoliTalker thanks you.

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Most Trump supporters never thought he was a good choice for the job. They simply believed that Trump wouldn't be as bad as Hillary.

So what? They were influenced by strong propaganda. They're only human.

Welcome back to caring America, ex-Trump supporters!
 
I forgive you for being a Trump supporter, ripping our nation apart, fueling extreme anger and hatred, and destroying delicate international relationships which took decades to build.

Hey.

Everybody makes mistakes.
 
This is a sincere sentiment.

Any time any Trump supporter decides it was a mistake to make this man our President, I stand ready to forgive you.

If we have different priorities for our nation,

If we believe differently about what our policy should be,

If we disagree on even basic facts,

It doesn't matter.

I hold no malice, no resentment.

Anyone can make a mistake.

When I look at the people I know in real life whom have supported Trump, and I struggle to understand the reasons they chose to do that, I also look upon people who want the best for our nation and truly believed he was the correct choice (often because the other choice was seen as unacceptable at any cost.) I know you were trying to do the best thing.

If you have had time to reflect on that decision, and have cause to question it, perhaps with new information which wasn't available then, and your resolve has changed,

I FORGIVE YOU.

We are the United States of America.

And United we must remain.

Though we may still disagree on much, that's OK. That's all part of the vision of our fore founders. Nobody ever expected the whole nation to agree on everything.

If you have disparaged liberals in general,

If you have made the mistake of stereotyping,

If you have thought less of your fellow Americans because they do not agree with you,

And you have later realized that we are all on the same side, that it is OK to disagree, that it is actually part of the master plan that we do disagree,

NO PROBLEM!

I forgive you.

It is better that we stand together, that we stand strong, as Americans.

It is OK for us to disagree.

It is NOT OK for us to hate.

For hatred is surely the way to our demise.

I shake your hand, my fellow enlightened Americans.

When we stand together, no matter what, we shall endure.
 
Darth Beto Omar said:
Trump 2020.
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PoliTalker said:
I forgive you for being a Trump supporter, ripping our nation apart, fueling extreme anger and hatred, and destroying delicate international relationships which took decades to build.

Hey.

Everybody makes mistakes.
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Ripping the nation apart lol?

I haven’t seen any riots since Obama left office.
 
Hello Bourbon,

What good is hatred?

What is that supposed to accomplish?

It is not critical thinking.

It is not logical.

It's just emotion.

Emotion is not a good plan.
 
Hello Politaker,

I admire your civility and enjoy reading your posts, but must somewhat disagree with your approach

sure, we shouldn't jail all these traitors or sentence them to community service plus a fine, but they must be shamed by the public on a regular basis and contained like a pandemic

case in point: "Ripping the nation apart lol? I haven’t seen any riots since Obama left office" ~ typical conservative traitor on this forum

these assholes will never change, they've been trying tear down our nation since before the Civil War and will not stop, reactionaries never go away.........they simply fall back and regroup after every defeat, check your history books

I don't know what the solution is, no one else seems to either
 
@ Politalker, post one.

You are talking about the exact same people who really really wanted to invade Iraq, but 15 years later simply cannot bring themselves to admit the Iraq War was a catastrophe of epic proportions, cannot even say whether they learned any lessons from that clusterfuck, and cannot bring themselves to admit that liberal posters here made the right call about Iraq.

You are going to find very few Trump boot lickers who will ever admit they made a mistake. At best, some of them will eventually claim they never supported Trump, supported by cries of "Trump is a Democrat!" -- and at worst, some of them will double down, keep their Trump knee pads on, and continue to pray at the Trump worship shrine they built in their bedrooms.
 
Reactionary
a person who holds political viewpoints that favor a return to a previous state in a society. The word can also be an adjective describing such viewpoints or policies. Reactionaries are considered to be one end of a political spectrum whose opposite... (42 of 2492 words, 1 image)

en​.wikipedia​.org​/wiki​/Reactionary [cite]


Collins Dictionary:
reactionary | reactionaries [plural] | reactists [plural] | reactionist | reactionarist [rare] | reactionism [noun, derived]
of, relating to, or characterized by reaction, especially against radical political or social change | a person opposed to radical change (20 of 415 words, 2 definitions, 9 usage examples, pronunciations)

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Merriam-Webster:
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relating to, marked by, or favoring reaction ; especially, ultraconservative in politics (12 of 135 words, 1 usage example, pronunciations)

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Oxford Dictionary:
reactionary | reactionaries [plural]
opposing political or social progress or reform | a reactionary person (10 of 59 words, 2 definitions, 2 usage examples, pronunciation)

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Wiktionary:
reactionary | reactionaries [plural] | nonreactionary [antonym, sense-specific]
Opposed to change; urging a return to a previous state. | Very conservative. | [chemistry] Of, pertaining to, participating in or inducing a chemical reaction. | One who is opposed to change. | One who is very conservative. (34 of 53 words, 5 definitions, 1 usage example, pronunciation)

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Macmillan British Dictionary:
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strongly opposed to any social or political change (8 of 40 words, 1 usage example, pronunciation)

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Cambridge Dictionary:
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a person who is opposed to political or social change or new ideas (13 of 36 words, 2 usage examples, pronunciations)

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Random House Dictionary:
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Hello Cypress,

Cypress said:
@ Politalker, post one.

You are talking about the exact same people who really really wanted to invade Iraq, but 15 years later simply cannot bring themselves to admit the Iraq War was a catastrophe of epic proportions, cannot even say whether they learned any lessons from that clusterfuck, and cannot bring themselves to admit that liberal posters here made the right call about Iraq.

You are going to find very few Trump boot lickers who will ever admit they made a mistake. At best, some of them will eventually claim they never supported Trump, supported by cries of "Trump is a Democrat!" -- and at worst, some of them will double down, keep their Trump knee pads on, and continue to pray at the Trump worship shrine they built in their bedrooms.
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Well, you are of course right.

But I just wanted them to know that this liberal does not hate them for standing up for what they believe in.

That's just being an American.

Together, we must rise above the hatred.
 
Hello reagansghost,

reagansghost said:
Hello Politalker,

I admire your civility and enjoy reading your posts, but must somewhat disagree with your approach

sure, we shouldn't jail all these traitors or sentence them to community service plus a fine, but they must be shamed by the public on a regular basis and contained like a pandemic

case in point: "Ripping the nation apart lol? I haven’t seen any riots since Obama left office" ~ typical conservative traitor on this forum

these assholes will never change, they've been trying tear down our nation since before the Civil War and will not stop, reactionaries never go away.........they simply fall back and regroup after every defeat, check your history books

I don't know what the solution is, no one else seems to either
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The answer is to be considerate and flexible. We've got a lot of very different people in this country with a lot of very different ideas. And that is actually a good thing. It is our diversity which makes us great. We should all strive to be more understanding and show concern for others. We are all in this together and we all need to work together to make America as great as she can be. Hatred is not going to do it. And you can't fight hatred with hatred. That just whips up more hatred.

The way you fight hatred is with love. If some refuse to be loved, that is their problem, not ours. Either you are with us, with the USA, or you are against the concept. Anyone trying to force everyone else to do it their way is against diversity. If you have a good idea, just do a good job of explaining why it is best. If it is truly a good thing, the truth will prevail.

I have a question for haters:

If you are not for being united, then what are you doing in the UNITED States?
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Cypress,



Well, you are of course right.

But I just wanted them to know that this liberal does not hate them for standing up for what they believe in.

That's just being an American.

Together, we must rise above the hatred.
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I get it my bro


But


embracing lies over fact to be able to PRETEND you have not been proven wrong repeatedly is reason for publicly shaming people


they are allowed their own Opinion


They cant NOT have their OWN "facts"
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Darth,



If we disagree on what is best for our nation, that is no reason we have to hate.

How is a divided house supposed to stand?

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Who said anything about hate lol?

Doesn’t it strike you as odd that there was more social unrest under the ‘uniter’ Obama than there is under the supposed ‘hater’ Trump? Is it because more people are working?

What do you attribute it to?
 
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