We gotta be in the Twilight Zone....

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

i'll never hold bravo to his words again....sorry bravo

Just stop trying to hold him to pinheaded interpretations of the words, and you'll be fine.

I'd talk to a counselor about your condition, Yurt. It's not normal for someone to go from outspoken conservative to outspoken liberal in the blink of an eye. It kind of reminds me of an old dog I used to have.... Duke... He was a wonderful watchdog, no one dared come into the yard when Duke was minding the store... only thing was, Duke was somewhat blind in his old age, and occasionally, when one of the family members would come through the fence gate too quickly, Duke would attack them. This happened several times, it was like he forgot who was family or something. We eventually had to put him down, I hope they won't have to do the same with you.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Holy shit! you mean the fontsize determines the veracity of the words.....?

Its no wonder I don't work for a newspaper....you're right.....I just didn't know that....

So what font size should be used for honesty and truthfulness..???

that would be 1pt and likely white text on a white background....

 

[Onceler]

that would be 1pt and likely white text on a white background....

If you're writing "Obama allies U.S. with Al Qaeda"? That actually would be more truthful...

 

[Bai Lan]

Just stop trying to hold him to pinheaded interpretations of the words, and you'll be fine.

I'd talk to a counselor about your condition, Yurt. It's not normal for someone to go from outspoken conservative to outspoken liberal in the blink of an eye. It kind of reminds me of an old dog I used to have.... Duke... He was a wonderful watchdog, no one dared come into the yard when Duke was minding the store... only thing was, Duke was somewhat blind in his old age, and occasionally, when one of the family members would come through the fence gate too quickly, Duke would attack them. This happened several times, it was like he forgot who was family or something. We eventually had to put him down, I hope they won't have to do the same with you.

You remind me of a retarded ape.

 

[NOVA]

i'll never hold bravo to his words again....sorry bravo

You don't even understand them, I couldn't dumb them down enough to get to a reading level you might comprehend....

you need the , "See Dick run", "Jump Jane jump" , version.....

The title of the thread didn't give you a clue?.......obviously not....maybe the "Twilight Zone" is a real place to you.

Others have no problem understanding the use of sarcasm and irony in my statements...only you and Onceler the Pinhead.....and him I can tolerate because he's just out looking for trouble or any gotcha moment he can latch onto....I slap him around so much, in the literary sense, that hes desperate for a rebound.
The one-color rainbow man will never see the light.

 

[Onceler]

Bravs - by "others," do you mean Dixie?

 

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Just stop trying to hold him to pinheaded interpretations of the words, and you'll be fine.

I'd talk to a counselor about your condition, Yurt. It's not normal for someone to go from outspoken conservative to outspoken liberal in the blink of an eye. It kind of reminds me of an old dog I used to have.... Duke... He was a wonderful watchdog, no one dared come into the yard when Duke was minding the store... only thing was, Duke was somewhat blind in his old age, and occasionally, when one of the family members would come through the fence gate too quickly, Duke would attack them. This happened several times, it was like he forgot who was family or something. We eventually had to put him down, I hope they won't have to do the same with you.

so according to dixie, if you disagree with him, you're a liberal hack. virtually every time we've disagreed, you call me a liberal pinhead or hack. why do you believe all those who lean right must walk in lock step with your beliefs? my disagreement with you and bravo on whether obama allied the US to AQ and whether the proverb - the enemy of my enemy is my friend - holds true here has nothing to do with anyone's political persuasion. so calling me a liberal, because i believe you both are wrong because obama never allied the US with AQ and AQ is not our "friend", is absolutely ridiculous.

it is impossible to claim obama allied the US to AQ. just because AQ wants something we want, does not mean obama allied the US with AQ. that is nonsensical. and there is no way in hell the axiom or proverb holds true here...AQ is our sworn enemy and seeks our destruction. you both act like proverbs always hold true....that is completely untrue.

but forbid anyone disagree with you two, or else they are hacks, liberals, whatever....you two need to realize that i don't walk lockstep and no one should.

 

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You don't even understand them, I couldn't dumb them down enough to get to a reading level you might comprehend....

you need the , "See Dick run", "Jump Jane jump" , version.....

The title of the thread didn't give you a clue?.......obviously not....maybe the "Twilight Zone" is a real place to you.

Others have no problem understanding the use of sarcasm and irony in my statements...only you and Onceler the Pinhead.....and him I can tolerate because he's just out looking for trouble or any gotcha moment he can latch onto....I slap him around so much, in the literary sense, that hes desperate for a rebound.
The one-color rainbow man will never see the light.

so now its sarcasm and irony.... you sure were defending yourself vigorously last night....probably a wise thing to do in back peddling though....your position was not tenable.

 

[NOVA]

Bravs - by "others," do you mean Dixie?

If I was referring to one particular person, I would say that...."others" includes everyone on the board, that happens to read my posts .... most of whom can see irony and sarcasm when they read it....people that see what is written and don't try to twist and spin and use tortured English to justify their mis-interpretations of a post thinking they will score a cheap political point....

 

[NOVA]

so now its sarcasm and irony.... you sure were defending yourself vigorously last night....probably a wise thing to do in back peddling though....your position was not tenable.

Now are you implying 'sarcasm and irony' is never the truth ?....Is that you next lame attempt at spin ?

The coalition, meager as it is, has an objective in Libya....AQ also has an objective in Libya.....the fact that the goals are the same makes them allies in that effort.....though unintentional.

In WWII the US allied itself with the USSR to beat Hitler...did that mean we were now friends? Hardly....and that alliance was intentional. The goal made us allies....

I'll not attempt to explain the obvious to you again....I can't make it any plainer or find smaller words for you to grasp....THE END

I don't suffer fools well this early in the day....

 

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i never said sarcasm and irony is never the truth, i expressly said, you're now claiming it is sarcasm and irony, when yesterday you were certainly not making such a claim

your comparison to the our alliance with the ussr falls flat....there, an actual alliance was made, here no alliance, implied or otherwise, has been made. further, the ussr was not our avowed enemy and did not seek our destruction like AQ.

there is nothing foolish in my dispute with you. you're just incapable of having anyone disagree with you, it bothers greatly.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

so according to dixie, if you disagree with him, you're a liberal hack. virtually every time we've disagreed, you call me a liberal pinhead or hack. why do you believe all those who lean right must walk in lock step with your beliefs? my disagreement with you and bravo on whether obama allied the US to AQ and whether the proverb - the enemy of my enemy is my friend - holds true here has nothing to do with anyone's political persuasion. so calling me a liberal, because i believe you both are wrong because obama never allied the US with AQ and AQ is not our "friend", is absolutely ridiculous.

it is impossible to claim obama allied the US to AQ. just because AQ wants something we want, does not mean obama allied the US with AQ. that is nonsensical. and there is no way in hell the axiom or proverb holds true here...AQ is our sworn enemy and seeks our destruction. you both act like proverbs always hold true....that is completely untrue.

but forbid anyone disagree with you two, or else they are hacks, liberals, whatever....you two need to realize that i don't walk lockstep and no one should.

What in the hell is wrong with you??? Have you never heard of "HYPERBOLE" before? Bravo made a statement that was a little over the top, and even admitted as much, but you insist on interpreting it literally and turning it into an argument. That's fine, and would probably be expected out of any number of pinheaded idiots on this board, but it's bizarre coming from someone who is essentially on the same side of the argument otherwise. What purpose does it serve for you to become a myopic little fuckwit, and start bashing me and bravo? Do you believe that will 'endear' you to the liberals or something? You want to be their hero? I honestly don't get you!

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

i never said sarcasm and irony is never the truth, i expressly said, you're now claiming it is sarcasm and irony, when yesterday you were certainly not making such a claim

your comparison to the our alliance with the ussr falls flat....there, an actual alliance was made, here no alliance, implied or otherwise, has been made. further, the ussr was not our avowed enemy and did not seek our destruction like AQ.

there is nothing foolish in my dispute with you. you're just incapable of having anyone disagree with you, it bothers greatly.

Yes, you retarded little HALF-LIBERAL weirdo... We know that no alliance has been formally made! We get it! We understand that point! Do you comprehend what hyperbole is? Do you understand this is something both sides do all the time to make a larger point? I don't really give a fuck if you "disagree" with me or not, but it disturbs me when you ignore obvious hyperbole and pretend it was literal. That's not you 'disagreeing' ...it's you being an obtuse little fuckwit.... and for no other reason that just being an obtuse little fuckwit! Not because you disagree with us politically, that would explain obtuse fuckwittedness... here, there is no reasonable or logical explanation, other than you being weird.

 

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lmao....so now bravo and dixie claim its just sarcarsm or hyberbole....nice back peddling...you guys could have just said that yesterday instead of vigorously defending the statements

but you two really got worked up over a little disagreement....its weird

 

[NOVA]

lmao....so now bravo and dixie claim its just sarcarsm or hyberbole....nice back peddling...you guys could have just said that yesterday instead of vigorously defending the statements

but you two really got worked up over a little disagreement....its weird

It always was sarcasm and irony. I never dreamed you were stupid enough not to get it at once...especially with the topic mentioning the Twilight Zone....obviously over your pointy head...
Even my quip, "Who would a thunk it.... " didn't make a fuckin' dent in your thick skull....that is was sarcasm.
Usually sarcasm, irony and hyperbole only needs to be explained to children......and now obviously, lawyers too.

and your accusation that I'm back peddling is equivalent to saying I'm changing my mind about it being the truth...it is the truth....
we are now unintentional allies, like it or not....

The fact that 2 entities share a common goal makes them allied in that goal....


al·lied  –adjective
1. joined by treaty, agreement, or common cause:


The reference to WWII was to try to explain to you that being allied in a common goal with someone, has absolutely nothing to do with being friends, despite the stupidity you exhibit in post 35....

And rest assured...the timeframe was the 1940's...Communists, Joe Stalin, the USSR and the United States were never 'friends', even during the alliance....


"got worked up over a little disagreement" ??? yeah, alittle.....I said I don't suffer fool easily and especially over a long period of time. And over such a petty issue .... mis-characterizing what I post does piss me off sometimes....

 

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bravo...chill out....if you were baiting me, it wasn't obvious like my thread about boots on the ground, especially, since i expressly stated i didn't believe the fallen pilots constituted boots on the ground invasion....

you could have simply just said it sarcasm and irony as a form of debate, in that, you were ridiculing the left. but you went on and on and got so pissed off me, that you made it impossible to view your stance as anything other than serious......if you have to keep repeating that people don't understand what you're saying, then don't wait until the next day to tell them its sarcasm

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

bravo...chill out....if you were baiting me, it wasn't obvious like my thread about boots on the ground, especially, since i expressly stated i didn't believe the fallen pilots constituted boots on the ground invasion....

you could have simply just said it sarcasm and irony as a form of debate, in that, you were ridiculing the left. but you went on and on and got so pissed off me, that you made it impossible to view your stance as anything other than serious......if you have to keep repeating that people don't understand what you're saying, then don't wait until the next day to tell them its sarcasm

He wasn't baiting you, and he shouldn't have had to explain sarcasm or hyperbole you to you.... (we assume you are an adult.) You wanted to be a nit-picky little liberal fuckwit, and you succeeded! I hope that satisfied your urge to be a liberal for the day! Now how about growing the fuck up, and try to remember what side of the proverbial fence you are on... or do you even fucking KNOW which side you're on? Sometimes I have my doubts!

 

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He wasn't baiting you, and he shouldn't have had to explain sarcasm or hyperbole you to you.... (we assume you are an adult.) You wanted to be a nit-picky little liberal fuckwit, and you succeeded! I hope that satisfied your urge to be a liberal for the day! Now how about growing the fuck up, and try to remember what side of the proverbial fence you are on... or do you even fucking KNOW which side you're on? Sometimes I have my doubts!

:lol:

 

[christiefan915]

don't hold your breath wanting for onceler to acknowledge the truth....he has dug himself into that position and no amount of truth will ever change his mind....and he will of course never, ever give a link to support his claim and he will continue to lie about the actual report by claiming its too redacted, when the truth is, not much is redacted and the parts that are not unequivocally state the admin and bush did not manipulate intel

"This NIE was, of course, wrong. Iraq had no active WMD programs, no stockpiles. But Wehner and others point to it as a holy writ that justifies everything Bush, Dick Cheney and other administration officials said. Which is odd, because the Bush White House admitted after the war began that Bush had not bothered to read the entire 93-page document. Had he done so, he would have seen that the report contained important caveats regarding key aspects of the case -- particularly Bush's claim that Saddam Hussein was actively pursing nuclear weapons and close to possessing them."

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/03/17/can-the-bush-lied-deniers-handle-the-truth/

 

[NOVA]

"This NIE was, of course, wrong. Iraq had no active WMD programs, no stockpiles. But Wehner and others point to it as a holy writ that justifies everything Bush, Dick Cheney and other administration officials said. Which is odd, because the Bush White House admitted after the war began that Bush had not bothered to read the entire 93-page document. Had he done so, he would have seen that the report contained important caveats regarding key aspects of the case -- particularly Bush's claim that Saddam Hussein was actively pursing nuclear weapons and close to possessing them."

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/03/17/can-the-bush-lied-deniers-handle-the-truth/

Some truth here, but only some....
The NIE was wrong...thats obvious now...and it did contain caveats
caveats that I'm sure everyone was aware of at the time, including Bush and the MSM.....so what....

Intelligence is by its nature not 100% factual and truth...we all know that too....caveats notwithstanding....

Read the Oct. NIE for yourself and stop getting brain rot from Huffington....why would anyone looking for truth go to a far left or a far right source and expect a fair and balanced article.
Here is a small example of the NIE:

We judge that Iraq has
We judge that we are seeing only a portion of Iraq’s WMD efforts
Iraq has maintained its chemical weapons effort
Baghdad is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program.
Iraq has largely rebuilt missile and biological weapons facilities
Baghdad has exceeded UN range limits of 150 km with its ballistic missiles
Most agencies believe
All agencies agree that about 25,000 centrifuges based on tubes of the size
We assess that Baghdad has begun renewed production of mustard, sarin
An array of clandestine reporting reveals that Baghdad has procured covertly
We judge Iraq has some lethal and incapacitating BW agents
Iraq is deploying its new al-Samoud and Ababil-100 SRBMs

No matter how badly you need to believe Bush lied, these facts presented in the NIE are undeniable, even taking into account some caveats...
IS, HAS, WE BELIEVE, ARE SEEING....these are not maybes, coulds, mights,.....

THIS IS THE INTELLIGENCE PRESENTED TO THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION BEFORE THE WAR....it might be bogus, but it is not riddled with indecisive ambiguity.....

and to repeat it to Congress or to the public is not lying...its what was thought to be the facts at the time....