WE ARE AT WAR and moderates could lose this election AGAIN

[TTQ64]

They are the police.

Of course they are "big, burly men with guns".

That's who we hire to protect us from criminals.... "big, burly men with guns".

And when they attempt to take a suspect into custody, even if it turns out in the end they were mistaken, they have the legal and Constitutional right to order and if necessary, force compliance.

Had the guy cooperated peacefully, none of that would have happened.

Whatever pain he suffered, he brought on himself.

But as I said to LV426 earlier... you know all of that already.

Everybody knows itonly white people know this

You're just using the video and misrepresenting its contents as a propaganda tool in order to push your pro-thug, anti-cop agenda.

It will never work and the only thing people "on your side of the planet" are going to achieve, is another four years of Trump and a solidly right-wing SCOTUS for decades to come.

Then, when you all are wailing and crying about they're taking this and taking that, I will just sit back and say "I tried to warn you but you wouldn't listen."

I might even laugh at you.

YOU ARE THE PROBLEM...........Blacks are not dogs......................we dont have To obey commands................you racist whites dont ant want to hold kops accountable...............because youALL LIKE DEAD NIGGAS.........stop being cowards.........and making excuses...

 

[Althea]

There is homophobia in both America and Iran. However, it's not equal. One is ten times worse than the other. If you were gay and had to choose, you would choose to live in America.

Right now America has problems, no question. But if Trump wins, they're going to get infinitely worse. If Biden wins, the worst case scenario is things stay the same. And even that is unlikely because Bernie is going to be in his ear.

Let's not forget that Obama had a task force in place that was meeting with numerous police agencies across the nation.

trump immediately did away with it, and instructed his Justice Dept. to get tougher on protesters. This is trump's vision for America.


There is no comparison between the two choices this time around.

 

[Althea]

In Negotiations, you ask for twice as much as you want. Then, if you get half what you ask for, you're satisfied.

Correct. These rising star Progressives ask for 10 times what anyone would be willing to concede immediately, and refuse to budge. They don't want to hear about restoring the foundation of ACA, with a Public Option added.

That's how you make changes. Not by demanding Single Payer with absolutely no chance of success. It's bad enough that there is no bi partisanship anymore. Now there's no compromise within the party?

 

[Diesel]

pretty sure I’m going to like you well.

My intent is to see trump gone and avoid the handwringing ant the What happened? If democrats lose again.

What happened is they didn’t respect their base.

The Democrats have tried hard, I think. From the wall to the shutdowns to DACA and the Supreme Court. From COVID to bailouts and stimuli. Ultimately, as always, they tried so hard to please everyone that they pleased no one. Our trade deals, immigration policies, and climate change strategy are all absolute disasters. The very old, very white people still running the Democratic party have tried so hard to ingratiate themselves among other old, white moderates that they alienated the young, multiracial, multicultural coalition that will lead them to a generation of success.

As you said, nothing is more important than exiling Trump. He's done enough damage; and he needs to go away.

 

[TTQ64]

Local issue. Not Federal. We need cops who more closely resemble the demographic they are hired to protect. Ferguson finally took a giant step toward the goal.

How many years later? The locals finally decided to VOTE.

black kops still follow racist protocal................they need to stop hiring racist kopsand fire the unions

 

[Althea]

YOU ARE THE PROBLEM...........Blacks are not dogs......................we dont have To obey commands................you racist whites dont ant want to hold kops accountable...............because youALL LIKE DEAD NIGGAS.........stop being cowards.........and making excuses...

Rittenhouse walked right by numerous heavily armed police vehicles after having murdered two people in the street.


Chew on that for a bit.

 

[Jack]

Correct. These rising star Progressives ask for 10 times what anyone would be willing to concede immediately, and refuse to budge. They don't want to hear about restoring the foundation of ACA, with a Public Option added.

That's how you make changes. Not by demanding Single Payer with absolutely no chance of success. It's bad enough that there is no bi partisanship anymore. Now there's no compromise within the party?

"DEFEAT MITCH
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[Althea]

Obama put in two Black Attorney Generals to oversee the Justice Department. THAT should be a requirement for Democrats to insure 'justice'.

The wheels grind slowly. Every foundation that Obama laid was undone by trump. Because...Bernie. Now we start from the 1950s again. I hope it was worth it to those who 'made a statement' in '16.

 

[Diesel]

Do you think Michael Brown, Alton Sterling, et al could have learned something from you? I hope you're not teaching kids to resist arrest or attempt taking the cops gun while he's in his cruiser.
Common sense tells me that I'll comply with anybody pointing a gun at me whether it's a cop or a robber or a friend. Anybody.
I'll comply with an unarmed cop for that matter. It's just common sense.

I was once stopped by cops on a dark street in the French Quarter because I was running to my parked car. I guess they suspected I was guilty of something because I was running. I got to my car, locked the door and they banged on the window ordering me to open up. Believe me I was scared shitless.
The last thing I do is try to drive off or resist. I opened up, they searched my car, a let me go after a few questions. Where were you, why were you running, etc. I hope that's what you teach. Glad I don't need to be taught that.

You let cops search you car with no cause?

I would never make such a stupid mistake, not even "scared shitless".

 

[Nomad]

YOU ARE THE PROBLEM...........Blacks are not dogs......................we dont have To obey commands................you racist whites dont ant want to hold kops accountable...............because youALL LIKE DEAD NIGGAS.........stop being cowards.........and making excuses...

Oh shut the fuck up with your tired, predictable nonsense.

Everybody has to obey the police when they tell you to stop what you're doing and cooperate with them.

To say "we dont have To obey commands" is just admitting that you want black people to be above the law and not subject to it like everyone else so they can go around wantonly disregarding it and do whatever the fuck they want to.

I can't even believe you're actually being serious.

You have to just be trying to provoke a reaction or something.

Utter nonsense.

 

[TTQ64]

Well said good brother, but as you can see from the responses in this thread, we can all be looking at the exact same thing as see entirely different things. Someone unarmed being handcuffed and on the ground with several burly cops on top of.him somehow poses a life threatening situation FOR THE COPS.

Go figure

the media needs to stop reporting lies from racist white men about blacks and crime..................thst will help.baack kops following racist protocal still leaves black dead bodies

 

[Nomad]

The wheels grind slowly. Every foundation that Obama laid was undone by trump. Because...Bernie. Now we start from the 1950s again. I hope it was worth it to those who 'made a statement' in '16.

Exactly.

Thank you.

 

[Jack]

The wheels grind slowly. Every foundation that Obama laid was undone by trump. Because...Bernie. Now we start from the 1950s again. I hope it was worth it to those who 'made a statement' in '16.

I think part of it was that EVERYONE thought Hillary was a shoe-in. No one expected FBI Comey to come out and say Hillary was under some kind of investigation 8 days before the Election. I think THAT was the game-changer.
Plus, I'm not sure Bernie 'had a seat at the table' with Hillary. With Biden, Bernie (and others) will 'have a say'.

 

[Althea]

Biden locked up hundreds of thousands of blacks in the 90s, Dumbo.

trump called for innocent black kids to be given the death penalty. He still doesn't back down. Your point?

You do realize that Biden pushed through the Violence Against Women act in the 90's crime bill? The Assault Weapons Ban as well. Most legislation fails to achieve its intended goal without eventual tweaks.

You're just an asshole who hates himself.

 

[anonymoose]

You let cops search you car with no cause?

I would never make such a stupid mistake, not even "scared shitless".

Now what the eff you gonna do when they have guns pointed at you? Resist? Drive away? As they're yelling for me to open up with guns pointed at me I'm supposed to calmly reply, "Sorry officers but I'd like to see a search warrant" ?
Guns > the law in the short time. Plus I had nothing to hide. Just use common sense. I'm still here. That says it all.

 

[Nomad]

the media needs to stop reporting lies from racist white men about blacks and crime..................thst will help.baack kops following racist protocal still leaves black dead bodies

Fuck off and die.

You all will never be above the law and you'll never be able to just walk into other people's property and take whatever you want with no repercussions.

I know that's your dream but you'd best just forget about it.

The law already allows people to shoot when you enter their homes uninvited.

Keep this shit up and it won't be long until it allows store owners to shoot when you come in and try to walk out with an armload of their stuff without paying for it.

 

[dukkha]

Obama put in two Black Attorney Generals to oversee the Justice Department. THAT should be a requirement for Democrats to insure 'justice'.

skin color does not insure justice. Holder claimed he was Obama's "wing man" -and greatly politicized the DoJ

https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-b...prosecutor-should-probe-lawless-obama-era-doj
Eric Holder proudly portrayed himself as Obama’s strong man. In an “unprecedented” crackdown on leakers, he surveilled journalists and seized phone records. He directed partisan prosecutions, and famously ignored Congressional oversight.

Holder’s DOJ “leadership” earned him a Congressional contempt charge but praise from his boss. It also set the Department’s new ethos: rules don’t matter, progressive politics does.

Subordinates got the message, nowhere more than Texas. Civil Rights Division attorneys and local offices habitually acted unethically and unprofessionally while fighting the Lone Star State. One Texas federal judge was so shocked by federal lawyers’ repeated lies he ordered a blistering five-part remedy that would supervise ethics training for hundreds of Justice lawyers. He eventually withdrew much of the sanction but still called the government’s behavior “nothing short of stunning.” He further noted the 132 ethical violations DOJ has admitted just in the past four years would leave a private firm “deeply ashamed, out of business or both.”

 

[Jack]

Now what the eff you gonna do when they have guns pointed at you? Resist? Drive away? As they're yelling for me to open up with guns pointed at me I'm supposed to calmly reply, "Sorry officers but I'd like to see a search warrant" ?
Guns > the law in the short time. Plus I had nothing to hide. Just use common sense. I'm still here. That says it all.

'You had nothing to hide'. The Key words.

 

[Jack]

skin color does not insure justice. Holder claimed he was Obama's "wing man" -and greatly politicized the DoJ

https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-b...prosecutor-should-probe-lawless-obama-era-doj
Eric Holder proudly portrayed himself as Obama’s strong man. In an “unprecedented” crackdown on leakers, he surveilled journalists and seized phone records. He directed partisan prosecutions, and famously ignored Congressional oversight.

Holder’s DOJ “leadership” earned him a Congressional contempt charge but praise from his boss. It also set the Department’s new ethos: rules don’t matter, progressive politics does.

Subordinates got the message, nowhere more than Texas. Civil Rights Division attorneys and local offices habitually acted unethically and unprofessionally while fighting the Lone Star State. One Texas federal judge was so shocked by federal lawyers’ repeated lies he ordered a blistering five-part remedy that would supervise ethics training for hundreds of Justice lawyers. He eventually withdrew much of the sanction but still called the government’s behavior “nothing short of stunning.” He further noted the 132 ethical violations DOJ has admitted just in the past four years would leave a private firm “deeply ashamed, out of business or both.”

I disagree.

 

[dukkha]

I disagree.

awesome Jack... such a profound rebuttal to what the judge said