Warren passes Biden, takes the lead in prized Iowa poll

Cinnabar said:
Have you seen Biden at the debates? Not a heartening sight.
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He is fine. Sure a lot better than Trump was in 2016. It is ironic that Biden is creamed for gaffes, which are more like malaprops than anything else. Trump flat out lies. The rights are OK with that. They have zero room to criticize Biden.
However, lots of leftys were worried about his candidacy because gaffes mean something to us. We have higher standards in our candidates. We do not accept lies. You guys threw standards out the window. Being a crook and a liar is fine for you. Perhaps you admire that.
 
Gonzomin said:
He is fine. Sure a lot better than Trump was in 2016. It is ironic that Biden is creamed for gaffes, which are more like malaprops than anything else. Trump flat out lies. The rights are OK with that. They have zero room to criticize Biden.
However, lots of leftys were worried about his candidacy because gaffes mean something to us. We have higher standards in our candidates. We do not accept lies. You guys threw standards out the window. Being a crook and a liar is fine for you. Perhaps you admire that.
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WTH are you talking about? I am a Bernie/Warren supporter.
 
crowonapost said:
No. Biden has and is nothing. He's an enabling Republican. We need a move forward from Southern Democrat GOP enabler, little bitches. He's small minded blue dog, trying to work with idiot fascist, called the GOP.
We need either Sanders or Warren, doesn't matter which one, they are moving in alignment with the current authentic world, not the corporate enablers or the corps whores. That
is where this is going. Warren is the detailed and softer side of Sanders but don't get blinded, these two are real old school progressive movement.
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true. why this old Blue Dog Dem has left the party - they have become radicals
 
Threedee said:
We're always being told the Democratic Party is the party of the blue dog working class, and not of the urban machines, special interest groups, and international socialists.
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They were up until and including Bill Clinton. I was a happy Democratic camper under Clinton -then they went to crap.

Hillary was a corrupted war dog ( Libya/"Friends of Syria")..Madeline Albright started them down the path of interventionism, and they never came back.

They became a bunch of unrealistic Socialists, while even China & Russia embraced capitalism.
They are lost -and I hope they continue to lose- until they wise up
 
Havana Moon said:
Craponapost is not that bright. Both of those arseholes would try to ban fracking to assuage their ignorant base. Just imagine what would have happened if the US wasn't energy independent, there would a full scale energy crisis now and Iran would be bombed to fuck!!
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energy independence is a marvelous thing..I'm old enough to recall the "gas lines" of the 70's -forget that noise.
No more being hostage to the oil regimes
 
Cinnabar said:
What a one trick pony you are. Your consistent support of anything opposing the status quo dirty and toxic energy industry is so freakin' obvious.

The right wing just loooooves the USA, which is why they want to destroy every last bit of its natural resources, wildlife, ecosystems and the health and well being of its future generations. Phonies and Dolts!
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The right are the people who actually live off the natural resources and wildlife, and among ecosystems other than the urban sewer.
 
Nomad said:
Biden still beats Trump by a far wider margin than Warren and Sanders put together plus a few more of them.

That will count for a lot when it comes down to who becomes the candidate.
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Polls count for nothing. Didn't you learn anything from 2016 when Trump whipped Hillary's ass despite the polls?
 
Penderyn said:
These weirdoes think their in the good old McCarthy days! Praise capitalism - it keeps idiots alive till 120, at the mere cost of their brains! :)
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“These weirdoes think their in the good old McCarthy days!.”

This from a “PhD.”

Try the contraction, “they’re” Iolo sock.
 
Threedee said:
We're always being told the Democratic Party is the party of the blue dog working class, and not of the urban machines, special interest groups, and international socialists.
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Lol International socialists. Okay. Jesus, the think tank, manipulation is strong with this one.
 
anatta said:
true. why this old Blue Dog Dem has left the party - they have become radicals
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I know, things like social security and worker rights and protecting the environment and caring for one another and some kind of full time job is so 'radical'.
We need to be sane and fuck the poor, fuck each other and every man for themselves, amirite?
 
Nomad said:
It's sad to see how far left progressives are so gullible they actually believe Warren or Sanders would be able to keep their ridiculous, empty promises.

Even if one of those two could beat Trump (they can't) their bullshit agenda would be rendered DOA by the Republican obstructionists in the Senate. Then the moron progressives who put them in office will look as stupid and gullible as the morons on the extremist right who believed Trump's bullshit promises and put him in office.
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No shit. Without a change in the senate not much can be done but.... our current Cheeto-lini has shown you can just try and force everything through... so there's that. So.. that just undermined your idiotic statement.

Also a one to two percent tax on those making over goddamned 50 million is fucking nothing but I guess according to you that's pie in the sky. I guess that's why we can't move forward in this country because this idiocy you vomit makes you so easily controlled. I love this statement, 'far' left'. That's how enabling beaten wives of GOP abusers talk. Everything's moved from fascist GOP to the center being the right and anything that's um... old school middle of the road liberal is now considered radical progressive, left. You really are an easily manipulated fool aren't you. That's not a question.




Biden is a solid, experienced leader and HE is the one who lives in the real world, not Bernie or Lizzy. Ergo, he doesn't need gimmicks and phony, empty promises about free everything for everybody that only gullible fools believe will ever happen.
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No he's not. He's lost every attempt at trying to be president. He's a fucking wife beating enabler who 's idea of working with other side has gotten us into the precise mess we are in. No we need to get some goddamned balls and fight. Stop being such an enabling good wife pussy and divorce yourself from these fucking abusers. That is ALL they are. Biden just wants us to go along to get along with the Corporate whoring of our entire nation. No, we need to get back to being a fucking democracy NOT beholden to Citizen United, 'personhood' Corporations. Biden is soft stable Trump for the GOP. Of course you won't get the conservatives seeing that here because they are too busy being manipulated by the idiotic us vs them game that is being played on EVERYONE, including you. The reality is the two establishment parties are about party before country, about controlling and being controlled by the establishment and the establishment is very big money and the little people, every fucking. one. reading this is the little people not having a voice in our government.

The stupidity that you folks vomit on one another daily around here is pathetic.

There are too many dumb people in this country on both sides who need to grow the fuck up and stop believing all these feel-good lies out of politicians who know how to push their buttons and play them for chumps.
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So, you might need to go in the bathroom, turn on the light and re read that to yourself.
 
crowonapost said:
I know, things like social security and worker rights and protecting the environment and caring for one another and some kind of full time job is so 'radical'.
We need to be sane and fuck the poor, fuck each other and every man for themselves, amirite?
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that was the old Dems, Crow -this new Dem Party is fixated on identity politics, and radical redistribution.

Before I'm Dem or Repub, I'm a populist.
I want the people to run their own lives and the government to assist and not interfere; not to over-regulate and direct
 
anatta said:
that was the old Dems, Crow -this new Dem Party is fixated on identity politics, and radical redistribution.

Before I'm Dem or Repub, I'm a populist.
I want the people to run their own lives and the government to assist and not interfere; not to over-regulate and direct
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No one is about radical redistribution That's just retarded on it's face. The idea of a democracy is the government is us, the idea of regulation is to control the impulses of capitalism. Capitalism's goal is unregulated profit. That's it's nature. From the founding of the concepts of capitalism by Adam Smith he knew that capitalism cannot work without a democratic government. That we've all been so manipulated by the bullshit that government is bad is a testimony to the power of propaganda by the big money corps shills.
Glad you are a populist, whatever exactly that means, are you for popular opinion, scared groups of self serving populations? I don't know. I know for myself I am for democracy and the voice of the people, not lobbyists, corporations or bullshit personhood but I digress.
 
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