Warren passes Biden, takes the lead in prized Iowa poll

Threedee said:
I like that my party's history includes a military victory over yours.
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Good for you, Ra ra football. Of course you do. You could give two shits to the wind about the country you only care about da' win of party, no matter the cost.
BTW do you mean the party that won WWII or the party that left Vietnam, destroyed Iraq and can't resolve Afghanistan? Just trying to figure which goal post you are changing today.
 
crowonapost said:
No one is about radical redistribution That's just retarded on it's face. the idea of a democracy is the government is us, the idea of regulation is to control the impulses of capitalism. Capitalism's goal is unregulated profit. That's it's nature. From the founding of the concepts of capitalism by Adam Smith he knew that capitalism cannot work without a democratic government. That we've all been so manipulated by the bullshit that government is bad is a testimony to the power of propaganda by the big money corps shills.
Glad you are a populist, whatever exactly that means, are you for popular opinion, scared groups of self serving populations? I don't know. I know for myself I am for democracy and the voice of the people, not lobbyists, corporations or bullshit personhood but I digress.
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free stuff ( college, guaranteed income) and extreme taxation ( like trillions needed for New Green Deal) is by definition radical redistribution. Those are "mainstream"progressive ideas.

How many times have I heard "tax the rich" when the rich are already way taxed they pay the bulk of income taxes - which is fine -but progs look at the rich as being a problem ( instead of wealth creation by hiring and investing).

Virtually anytime they come up with more spending ideas, they point to taxing the rich more.
Warren wants a "wealth tax" ffs.
not content to bleed the rich she then wants to come back and slice off 2% Of THEIR WEALTH annually!

Dems are statists -the more power to the central government, the happier they are.
I remind you the US was set up for "the pursuit of happiness" not guaranteeing it

Populism is closest to being libertarianism. I want to have complete control of my body.
I want to be able to smoke pot for anxiety, and pain pills for pain management as me and my doctor see fit
without the DEA and CDC telling me I cant. If you want to vape or smoke cigs -have at it.
I basically want as little government as possible -just enough to further that pursuit, but not control/direct it.

Populism at it's heart is a sovereign people
( like the 10th where all powers not invested to the government resides in the people ). Power to the people.
 
anatta said:
free stuff ( college, guaranteed income) and extreme taxation ( like trillions needed for New Green Deal) is by definition radical redistribution. Those are "mainstream"progressive ideas.
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Red states love the 'free stuff', progressives favor the rest of your rant, true

go eat your borscht
 
anatta said:
free stuff ( college, guaranteed income) and extreme taxation ( like trillions needed for New Green Deal) is by definition radical redistribution. Those are "mainstream"progressive ideas.

How many times have I heard "tax the rich" when the rich are already way taxed they pay the bulk of income taxes - which is fine -but progs look at the rich as being a problem ( instead of wealth creation by hiring and investing).

Virtually anytime they come up with more spending ideas, they point to taxing the rich more.
Warren wants a "wealth tax" ffs.
not content to bleed the rich she then wants to come back and slice off 2% Of THEIR WEALTH annually!

Dems are statists -the more power to the central government, the happier they are.
I remind you the US was set up for "the pursuit of happiness" not guaranteeing it

Populism is closest to being libertarianism. I want to have complete control of my body.
I want to be able to smoke pot for anxiety, and pain pills for pain management as me and my doctor see fit
without the DEA and CDC telling me I cant. If you want to vape or smoke cigs -have at it.
I basically want as little government as possible -just enough to further that pursuit, but not control/direct it.

Populism at it's heart is a sovereign people
( like the 10th where all powers not invested to the government resides in the people ). Power to the people.
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Excellent.

Thanks, anatta
 
anatta said:
free stuff ( college, guaranteed income) and extreme taxation ( like trillions needed for New Green Deal) is by definition radical redistribution. Those are "mainstream"progressive ideas.
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If we can do it for the military... If we can raise the taxes back to where they where just for the billionaire class before Trump. It's fine. Further, deficits don't matter as stated by Cheney and enacted by Trump. What that can translate too is that by putting Americans to work on everything associated with the green new deal, infrastructure, smart grid etc. It will mitigate the deficit besides little known fact, The United States government is not some household, it's a sovereign government that issues it's own currency. It can absolutely be done. It's just a failure in shared belief in one another and our nation, which is by design.

How many times have I heard "tax the rich" when the rich are already way taxed they pay the bulk of income taxes - which is fine -but progs look at the rich as being a problem ( instead of wealth creation by hiring and investing).
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I've no problem with wealth, I have a problem with grotesque manipulation of the political system wealth. There is a profound difference.

Virtually anytime they come up with more spending ideas, they point to taxing the rich more.
Warren wants a "wealth tax" ffs.
not content to bleed the rich she then wants to come back and slice off 2% Of THEIR WEALTH annually!
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Except they at that this time pay no tax. Just look at Amazon, ATT etc for facts.

Dems are statists -the more power to the central government, the happier they are.
I remind you the US was set up for "the pursuit of happiness" not guaranteeing it
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No the Establishment big monied corporate entities pits the parties against us to do it's bidding. Dems and GOP are two sides of the same con.

Populism is closest to being libertarianism. I want to have complete control of my body.
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Yeah except abortion, clean water, air and food, sure.

I want to be able to smoke pot for anxiety, and pain pills for pain management as me and my doctor see fit
without the DEA and CDC telling me I cant. If you want to vape or smoke cigs -have at it.
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Were on the same page with that one. In spite of all the failings of Chicago, as a resident, I know, they and the state are on it with that one. Check out what they are doing about how to approach legalization in Illinois
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I basically want as little government as possible -just enough to further that pursuit, but not control/direct it.
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I think most sane people want that. It's called smart regulation, not just for emotional reasons.

Populism at it's heart is a sovereign people
( like the 10th where all powers not invested to the government resides in the people ). Power to the people.
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LOL like sovereign citizens?...mkay.
 
crowonapost said:
Good for you, Ra ra football. Of course you do. You could give two shits to the wind about the country you only care about da' win of party, no matter the cost.
BTW do you mean the party that won WWII or the party that left Vietnam, destroyed Iraq and can't resolve Afghanistan? Just trying to figure which goal post you are changing today.
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I was talking about the party that won the Civil War, and not the party that lost in Vietnam, and recently screwed-up Libya.
 
Threedee said:
I was talking about the party that won the Civil War, and not the party that lost in Vietnam, and recently screwed-up Libya.
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lol. okay. You mean back when it was less about party and more about a governing coalition. Gotta' dig deep on that one. Like people, parties change over time. The GOP then was and is very different than the one now. Just as it's the same for Dem party. Ironically on substance I'd say the two's principles have flipped. Either way doesn't matter they still are two sides of a same coin that's owned by corps.
 
crowonapost said:
lol. okay. You mean back when it was less about party and more about a governing coalition. Gotta' dig deep on that one. Like people, parties change over time. The GOP then was and is very different than the one now. Just as it's the same for Dem party. Ironically on substance I'd say the two's principles have flipped. Either way doesn't matter they still are two sides of a same coin that's owned by corps.
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We're still here, providing a moral voice against the Democrats excesses. Heck, our first platform had a provision defending traditional marriage.
 
Nomad said:
Biden still beats Trump by a far wider margin than Warren and Sanders put together plus a few more of them.

That will count for a lot when it comes down to who becomes the candidate.
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we have to beat the republican candidate by 10 points just to eek a win due to the constant cheating the republican party does
 
crowonapost said:
No. Biden has and is nothing. He's an enabling Republican. We need a move forward from Southern Democrat GOP enabler, little bitches. He's small minded blue dog, trying to work with idiot fascist, called the GOP.
We need either Sanders or Warren, doesn't matter which one, they are moving in alignment with the current authentic world, not the corporate enablers or the corps whores. That
is where this is going. Warren is the detailed and softer side of Sanders but don't get blinded, these two are real old school progressive movement.
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Sanders is Russian tainted idiot
 
Putin helped Sanders and the green party candidate Jill Stein


THAT IS DOCUMENTED FACT

Sanders last campaign hired TAD DEVINE a guy who worked for and with Manifort in the Ukraine to help the Russians



COLD HARD FACT
 
crowonapost said:
lol. okay. You mean back when it was less about party and more about a governing coalition. Gotta' dig deep on that one. Like people, parties change over time. The GOP then was and is very different than the one now. Just as it's the same for Dem party. Ironically on substance I'd say the two's principles have flipped. Either way doesn't matter they still are two sides of a same coin that's owned by corps.
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The Dem party abandoned its Progressive roots and became Republican-lite so now any representative who veers back to the left where it belongs is painted by the media and the powers that be to be too far left...so let's call BULL-SHIT! on that notion.

It's also been the left wing that has put policies in place that actually build, maintain and protect a middle class as the right wing seeks to destroy it.
 
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