Horse shit. The POTUS is the ULTIMATE DETERMINER OF CLASSIFICATION.
Makeup some more nonsense.
Vindman Tried to Alter Call Transcript. Failed
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Horse shit. The POTUS is the ULTIMATE DETERMINER OF CLASSIFICATION.
Makeup some more nonsense.
Yes, but if he does it as a cover up, that’s another issue.
You will *never* see a smoking gun because you don't want to, unless the barrel is pointed at someone with a (D) after their name. This decorated active military office who managed to stay at his position through changes of administrations is deeply concerned about the POTUS violating the Constitution -- and you still think he's lying because he worked with (D)s in his career. I looked up his bio and did not see anything about his political leanings. You have a credible link?
As for those he reported his alarms to -- how on earth would anyone know if they are honest, what they did about the information, and their loyalties (or not) to Trump? I suppose that will come out in the hearings. All we've heard so far as Cliff Notes synopsis of what testimony was given. We DO know, however, that enough ppl were also alarmed by the call to the point where the transcript was hidden on a secure server. Why would that happen if it's a nothingburger?
A person of integrity working for/with the govt. is honor-bound to report wrongdoing, IMO, even if the sympathize with the wrongdoer. Don't you agree? Now if you think that the POTUS, hearing a conspiracy theory about his rival(s), should be able to use the power of his elected office to get information on his rival(s) by appealing to foreign governments in exchange for American goodies then you are wrong. I don't care what letter comes after their name, wrong is wrong.
I haven't watched MSNBC in years, but nice try. Yes, Vindman has worked for more than two administrations. So what? Many career employees in DC have as well.
Exactly. I love how they pretend to know all this inside information, while simultaneously screeching about witch hunt, star chamber, secret hearings, unfair unfair unfair.
How the transcript happens:
"Traditionally, officials from the US national security council (NSC) brief the president before a call with a foreign leader. Then the briefers sit in the Oval Office with the president while he speaks on the phone with the foreign leader. "At least two members of the NSC are usually present," according to USA Today.
"There will also be officials sitting in a secure room in another part of the White House, listening to the president's call and taking notes. Their notes are known as a "memorandum of telephone conversation", and like many things in Washington it has an abbreviation: "memcon".
"The president's calls with foreign leaders are also transcribed by computers. Afterwards, as former White House officials explain, the human note takers compare their impressions with an electronic version of the call. The notes from the officials and from the computerised transcriptions are combined into one document. This transcript may not be perfect, but it is done as carefully as time and resources allow.
"In the case of the president's phone call with Mr Zelensky, according to the whistleblower's complaint, about a dozen people were listening to their conversation."
(https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49858318)
So all the Reichwing idiots here who are now hinting that Vindman tried to "alter" the rough draft of the transcript for nefarious purposes -- go sit on a sharp stick. Adding back in what was removed is a correction. If you're so concerned about alterations, time to talk to everyone who handled the transcript and find who removed even more damning words by Trump. Rudy *cough cough* or Barr?
Yep. He's in this up to his necktie too.
do you recall the constant leaks of POTUS phone calls ? Think maybe that's why the call notes were put on a higher classification server (no "hidden").
vindman was put into the NSC by Rice -he didn't "manage to stay" he wasn't a known problem beforehand.
HE WAS ADVISING UKRAINE GOV'T on Gulliani -does that bother you? it sure as hell does me.
claptrap..at most it was a CFR violation
OMG an ambassador gets appointed because he gave money to a campaign! That never happens
POTUS phone calls have been leaked like an open book - Occam's razor says that's why the higher classified server
The Usual Suspects at work
Secret Schiff Star Chamber in his SCIF
No, it is a cover up because his attorney knows it’s not a perfect call.
ROFL..tell it to Mike Flynn
OMG an ambassador gets appointed because he gave money to a campaign! That never happens
The point is that if cons see Vindman as biased, that's how liberals see Sonland.
Mike Flynn didn’t tell the truth.
There might be, but the President has the final say on ANYTHING that is classified. The President is the ONLY person who can declassify anything. He is the ONLY person that commands the armed forces and he is the ONLY person who can determine what our foreign policy will be and looks like.
Did you also know that the President does not have to go through any background checks to have this power?
so lets see he releases the transcript ( which all involved say it correct with perhaps minor details not) but placing the recording on a higher classified server is a cover up?? do you actually think things thru before you post?
It's very easy for extremely honest people to get caught in a perjury trap. It's also very obvious that you don't have the slightest clue of what you are talking about.
