Venezuela a failure of CAPITALISM.

Do you remember how the governor responded to that little crisis?

By cutting services and plunging the economy into a recession.


Do you remember him deploying the national guard with live ammunition and fixed bayonets?

It didn't get that far because Texas relied on welfare from the federal government to pad its budget and pay for the services oil revenues traditionally paid for. So the people weren't destitute enough that they were protesting the state cuts to the social programs, because Texas was using federal welfare dollars, a luxury Venezuela doesn't have, YOU FUCKING JACKASS.


Do you remember the empty store shelves and the people eating out of garbage cans?

No, but I remember Texas taking $500M in federal welfare assistance. Venezuela get how much in federal welfare assistance? Oh right, nothing.


Do you remember how the average Texan lost 25 pounds in a few months?

No, because they got $500M in federal welfare spending on programs like SNAP that wasn't available to Venezuela.


I don’t remember it either because it didn’t happen in Texas, but it sure as hell happened in Venezuela! And that’s what happens when socialists run out of money!

It didn't happen in Texas because Texas got a $500M handout from the federal government.
 
Yes, Socialism has failed the citizens of Venezuela.

Now the apologists for that socialist failure are blaming the US. Nothing new here.
 
Yes, Socialism has failed the citizens of Venezuela.

Now the apologists for that socialist failure are blaming the US. Nothing new here.

Maduro is not a socialist

and your hero Trump is a crooked capitalist fuckhead

btw, Socialism and Capitalism are not in opposition, Euro social democracies are all capitalistic

you're confusing GOP Communism with socialism

oh, and fuck off troll
 
Maduro is not a socialist

and your hero Trump is a crooked capitalist fuckhead

btw, Socialism and Capitalism are not in opposition, Euro social democracies are all capitalistic

you're confusing GOP Communism with socialism

oh, and fuck off troll
Take a hike, pende*o.
 
By cutting services and plunging the economy into a recession.




It didn't get that far because Texas relied on welfare from the federal government to pad its budget and pay for the services oil revenues traditionally paid for. So the people weren't destitute enough that they were protesting the state cuts to the social programs, because Texas was using federal welfare dollars, a luxury Venezuela doesn't have, YOU FUCKING JACKASS.




No, but I remember Texas taking $500M in federal welfare assistance. Venezuela get how much in federal welfare assistance? Oh right, nothing.




No, because they got $500M in federal welfare spending on programs like SNAP that wasn't available to Venezuela.




It didn't happen in Texas because Texas got a $500M handout from the federal government.
This is my point dumb ass! Capitalism has contingencies for this crap! Socialist governments with oil and other resources are like crack addicted lottery winners, they cash in the ticket and throw parties until the money runs out. Ever wonder why there are no violent revolutions in America when we have a recession? You know why we have the “luxury” to give a $500M “handout” to Texas? Because of fiscal discipline idiot, and CONSERVATIVE budgeting. You can’t divvy up the treasury among the proletariat just because they made you the supreme dictator, that’s piracy.(it’s also exactly what your “demoronic socialists” are trying to pull for 2020)
 
This is my point dumb ass!

Your point is that to soften the blow of lower oil prices, the welfare state must step in to provide for that which revenues from oil cannot.

OK! I am glad you agree with that point.

So the failure in Venezuela isn't because of the welfare state, it's because of lower oil prices from an increase to the global supply.
 
Socialist governments with oil and other resources are like crack addicted lottery winners, they cash in the ticket and throw parties until the money runs out.

Which is exactly what happened in Texas in 2016, and the federal government gave Texas half a billion dollars in welfare so that people could eat. Didn't just happen in Texas either; Oklahoma, Kansas, and North Dakota all faced the same problem and all those states got increases to the welfare they get from the feds.
 
CONSERVATIVE budgeting.

The $500M handed to Texas in 2016 added to the $500B deficit we had that year, with a Conservative House and Senate.

So Conservative budgeting = massive deficit spending

I'm old enough to remember when you stapled a teabag to your face because you were so upset about the deficit.
 
You can’t divvy up the treasury among the proletariat just because they made you the supreme dictator, that’s piracy.(it’s also exactly what your “demoronic socialists” are trying to pull for 2020)

1. You can certainly do that, and when Venezuela was doing that, the price per barrel was higher.

2. You're the ones who are on camera saying you're happy that Trump is a dictator.
 
So this is a very vague answer and one you obviously just came up with off the top of your head because you have no idea, and don't put in any effort.
I don't put any effort in??? I admit I don't have to, because most of my stuff is pretty self-evident, but YOU on the other hand seem to have all your responses bound to a macro! Open that pea sized mind of yours and look around!

Teach them to make their own money? What?
Yeah, see above. Oil is a volatile commodity, if those people knew how to make their own money, why didn't the economy keep chugging along(albeit at a slower pace)when the bottom dropped out of the market?

Venezuela's issues came because of the drop in the global price of oil, not because the people don't know how to make money.

Yeah, once again, see above.



Venezuela was making money...until the price per barrel of oil dropped, then they stopped making money.
See, what did I tell you? You made 3 points that you think are separate, and they all said the same fucking thing.

You're a fucking idiot.

I am? Here's a little riddle for you to solve(don't worry, I'll include hints because I think you're the kinda guy that might need a couple): There is an oil-rich country in the middle east(hint: it's Saudi Arabia), American leftists hate this country for many reasons, but the most fashionable reason right now is because some of this country's(hint#2: it's still Saudi Arabia)operatives have apparently assassinated a "journalist" from another country that hates us(hint#3: it's Turkey). The first country I mentioned(hint#4: once again, it's still Saudi Arabia)is pursuing other avenues of revenue generation because they are seeing their profits drop off, and want to be prepared for a future when the oil industry is no longer profitable for them at all. Any signs that Venezuela did anything like that?
 
I don't put any effort in??? I admit I don't have to, because most of my stuff is pretty self-evident, but YOU on the other hand seem to have all your responses bound to a macro! Open that pea sized mind of yours and look around!

The reason you are simplistic and put no effort into anything is because you are a simpleton with some serious self-entitlement.
 
Yeah, see above. Oil is a volatile commodity, if those people knew how to make their own money, why didn't the economy keep chugging along(albeit at a slower pace)when the bottom dropped out of the market?

95% of Venezuela's exports are fossil fuels.

I agree that Venezuela shouldn't be reliant on fossil fuels for their primary source of revenue, but they are. Diversifying the economy is kinda what Chavez and Maduro did when they took the oil revenues and used it to expand the social state. That model worked until the price of oil dropped, then it didn't work.

The question is; when the oil market was booming for them, what should Venezuela have done differently? I have not heard a coherent response from anyone on that, including you. Saying "teach them to make money" isn't coherent. Saying "develop other areas of commerce" could be, but Venezuela was on the sugar high of high energy prices -MUCH LIKE TEXAS WAS- but unlike Texas, Venezuela didn't have Uncle Sam to bail them out with welfare. Venezuela would have to go to the World Bank for that, and doing so comes with its own contingencies and obstacles.

Historically in this country, when energy prices drop, federal welfare steps in to fill the void created by a decline in revenues. It's exactly what happened throughout flyover country from 2015-2016.
 
Yeah, once again, see above.

No, once again, you're fucking wrong because you're a moron. Do you think capitalism exists in Venezuela? If not, then you're a fucking moron.


See, what did I tell you? You made 3 points that you think are separate, and they all said the same fucking thing.

I must repeat myself because you're not receptive to anything. You have an inherent bias that you preserve and coddle at all costs because admitting your prejudicial preconceptions are wrong would be admitting that your judgment and instincts suck. You're not prepared emotionally to admit that. So what happens is that I keep saying the same thing that you keep refusing to accept, and no progress is made because you have an ego that is really quite fragile.
 
This is my point dumb ass! Capitalism has contingencies for this crap! Socialist governments with oil and other resources are like crack addicted lottery winners, they cash in the ticket and throw parties until the money runs out. Ever wonder why there are no violent revolutions in America when we have a recession? You know why we have the “luxury” to give a $500M “handout” to Texas? Because of fiscal discipline idiot, and CONSERVATIVE budgeting. You can’t divvy up the treasury among the proletariat just because they made you the supreme dictator, that’s piracy.(it’s also exactly what your “demoronic socialists” are trying to pull for 2020)

As has been clearly explained, Venezuela is a capitalist economy, dependent on the market, and therefore out of any sane control. As you know, all that matters to capitalists is money. That's why they had Hitler kill off Jews to avoid socialism. Are you paid, or just stupid?
 
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