Vance uses false claims to pin shutdown blame on Democrats as White House warns of layoffs

Geebus. OP uses false reporting to claim that reversing the restrictions and checks the OBBB created which made it far more difficult for states to get reimbursed for the coverage of Illegal Aliens (Undocumented Immigrants in leftist-speak).

Reversing the healthcare provisions of the One Big Beautiful Bill (OBBBA, formally H.R. 1, enacted in 2025) would primarily restore federal funding mechanisms that states previously leveraged to offset the costs of providing healthcare to undocumented immigrants (often referred to as "illegal immigrants" in political discourse). Under current law, these provisions sharply limit federal reimbursements, forcing states to rely almost entirely on their own budgets if they choose to extend coverage beyond minimal emergency services.

Those provisions are the ones the Democrats are demanding be reversed for them to vote to fund the government for seven weeks.

Here's a breakdown for y'all:

  • Current OBBBA Restrictions: The bill (Section 71109) prohibits federal Medicaid or Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP) reimbursements for any non-citizens except a narrow group (U.S. citizens, lawful permanent residents, Cuban/Haitian entrants, and Compact of Free Association migrants). This excludes refugees, asylees, parolees, and undocumented immigrants entirely from non-emergency coverage. For emergency services (the only federal reimbursable care for undocumented individuals), Section 71110 reduces the Federal Medical Assistance Percentage (FMAP)—the federal matching rate—from 90% in ACA expansion states to the state's standard rate (often 50-70%). This slashes federal support by tens of billions over a decade, per Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimates.
  • Effect of Reversal: States could regain access to full federal matching funds (up to 90% FMAP in expansion states) for emergency care and potentially broader Medicaid/CHIP eligibility for certain immigrants who were covered pre-OBBBA (e.g., those with temporary protections like parole). This would free up state budgets, allowing legislatures in pro-coverage states (e.g., California, New York) to expand non-emergency benefits—like prenatal care, primary care, or long-term services—for undocumented residents without shouldering the full cost. Pre-OBBBA, states used these matches to cover over 1 million undocumented individuals annually for emergencies alone, saving states billions.

  • Current OBBBA Restrictions: Sections 71301-71303 limit Affordable Care Act (ACA) premium tax credits (PTCs) and cost-sharing reductions to the same narrow immigrant categories, closing pre-2025 loopholes that allowed parolees, asylees, and others in Medicaid waiting periods to access subsidies below federal poverty level thresholds. Undocumented immigrants were already ineligible for PTCs, but the bill's verification mandates and ban on automatic re-enrollment further block mixed-status households (e.g., U.S. citizen children of undocumented parents) from subsidies. CBO projects $165 billion in federal savings from these changes.
  • Effect of Reversal: States could indirectly support undocumented coverage by restoring subsidies for eligible family members in mixed-status households, reducing uncompensated care burdens on state-funded safety-net providers. More directly, reversal would allow states to pair restored federal subsidies with their own marketplace enhancements or state-funded plans, making comprehensive coverage more affordable. For instance, states like Illinois and Oregon, which already use state funds for undocumented adults, could scale up without the added fiscal strain from lost federal offsets.

  • Current OBBBA Restrictions: By design, the bill shifts the full financial burden to states for any voluntary coverage of undocumented immigrants, discouraging expansion. It also mandates stricter immigration status verification, increasing administrative costs for states (e.g., via Social Security cross-checks for Medicare under Section 71201, which excludes undocumented access entirely).
  • Effect of Reversal: States regain leverage to "draw down" federal dollars for immigrant care, potentially saving them $20-30 billion annually in combined Medicaid/ACA offsets (based on pre-OBBBA baselines). This enables budget-neutral expansions: For example, a state could use restored 90% FMAP for emergencies to fund pilot programs for chronic care or mental health services for undocumented workers in agriculture or construction-heavy economies. Politically, it empowers Democratic-led states to fulfill campaign promises on immigrant health equity without veto-proof budget fights.

In summary, OBBBA's provisions were engineered to end "taxpayer-funded" (i.e., federal) benefits for undocumented immigrants, projecting over $200 billion in federal savings by tightening eligibility and reducing matches. Reversal would flip this by reinstating federal support, allowing states to sustainably fund coverage for an estimated 10-12 million undocumented residents, focusing on emergencies initially but enabling fuller access over time. This aligns with pre-2025 practices in 15+ states but scales it nationally without prohibitive state costs. Actual implementation would depend on new legislation, as full repeal isn't guaranteed in a divided Congress.
 
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what is a lie?

this argument is specifically over the parolees.

Johnsen is being misleading calling them illegals. But it is true that Trump campaigned on cutting off spending and services for this specific grouping of temporary residents


  • The fight isn’t really about U.S. citizens at all. Citizens always qualify for ACA subsidies if they meet income rules.
  • The dispute is about parolees — migrants legally admitted temporarily under the Biden administration’s parole authority.
  • Democrats call them “lawfully present” → therefore, eligible.
  • Republicans call them “illegal aliens” → therefore, ineligible.
Have no idea what you are talking about, “parolees”

Yea or no, Trump, Vance, the GOP is echoing that Democrats shut down the government because they want to give free health care to immigrants who entered the U.S. illegally. A claim totally debunked

You didn’t think Trump, Vance, Cruz, and others are depicting Jeffries wearing a somber was just accidentally did you
 
Have no idea what you are talking about, “parolees”

that is because you are ignorant of what the shutdown is about. the democrats and your echo chamber are keeping you stupid. you should ask why they are keeping you uninformed. why do we always know more than you. how can you debate when you have no idea of the laws

What “parole” means in immigration law​


  • Parole is a legal tool under Immigration and Nationality Act §212(d)(5)(A).
  • It lets the executive branch temporarily let someone into the U.S. who otherwise doesn’t meet admission requirements.
 
Geebus. OP uses false reporting to claim that reversing the restrictions and checks the OBBB created which made it far more difficult for states to get reimbursed for the coverage of Illegal Aliens (Undocumented Immigrants in leftist-speak).

Reversing the healthcare provisions of the One Big Beautiful Bill (OBBBA, formally H.R. 1, enacted in 2025) would primarily restore federal funding mechanisms that states previously leveraged to offset the costs of providing healthcare to undocumented immigrants (often referred to as "illegal immigrants" in political discourse). Under current law, these provisions sharply limit federal reimbursements, forcing states to rely almost entirely on their own budgets if they choose to extend coverage beyond minimal emergency services.

Those provisions are the ones the Democrats are demanding be reversed for them to vote to fund the government for seven weeks.

Here's a breakdown for y'all:

  • Current OBBBA Restrictions: The bill (Section 71109) prohibits federal Medicaid or Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP) reimbursements for any non-citizens except a narrow group (U.S. citizens, lawful permanent residents, Cuban/Haitian entrants, and Compact of Free Association migrants). This excludes refugees, asylees, parolees, and undocumented immigrants entirely from non-emergency coverage. For emergency services (the only federal reimbursable care for undocumented individuals), Section 71110 reduces the Federal Medical Assistance Percentage (FMAP)—the federal matching rate—from 90% in ACA expansion states to the state's standard rate (often 50-70%). This slashes federal support by tens of billions over a decade, per Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimates.
  • Effect of Reversal: States could regain access to full federal matching funds (up to 90% FMAP in expansion states) for emergency care and potentially broader Medicaid/CHIP eligibility for certain immigrants who were covered pre-OBBBA (e.g., those with temporary protections like parole). This would free up state budgets, allowing legislatures in pro-coverage states (e.g., California, New York) to expand non-emergency benefits—like prenatal care, primary care, or long-term services—for undocumented residents without shouldering the full cost. Pre-OBBBA, states used these matches to cover over 1 million undocumented individuals annually for emergencies alone, saving states billions.

  • Current OBBBA Restrictions: Sections 71301-71303 limit Affordable Care Act (ACA) premium tax credits (PTCs) and cost-sharing reductions to the same narrow immigrant categories, closing pre-2025 loopholes that allowed parolees, asylees, and others in Medicaid waiting periods to access subsidies below federal poverty level thresholds. Undocumented immigrants were already ineligible for PTCs, but the bill's verification mandates and ban on automatic re-enrollment further block mixed-status households (e.g., U.S. citizen children of undocumented parents) from subsidies. CBO projects $165 billion in federal savings from these changes.
  • Effect of Reversal: States could indirectly support undocumented coverage by restoring subsidies for eligible family members in mixed-status households, reducing uncompensated care burdens on state-funded safety-net providers. More directly, reversal would allow states to pair restored federal subsidies with their own marketplace enhancements or state-funded plans, making comprehensive coverage more affordable. For instance, states like Illinois and Oregon, which already use state funds for undocumented adults, could scale up without the added fiscal strain from lost federal offsets.

  • Current OBBBA Restrictions: By design, the bill shifts the full financial burden to states for any voluntary coverage of undocumented immigrants, discouraging expansion. It also mandates stricter immigration status verification, increasing administrative costs for states (e.g., via Social Security cross-checks for Medicare under Section 71201, which excludes undocumented access entirely).
  • Effect of Reversal: States regain leverage to "draw down" federal dollars for immigrant care, potentially saving them $20-30 billion annually in combined Medicaid/ACA offsets (based on pre-OBBBA baselines). This enables budget-neutral expansions: For example, a state could use restored 90% FMAP for emergencies to fund pilot programs for chronic care or mental health services for undocumented workers in agriculture or construction-heavy economies. Politically, it empowers Democratic-led states to fulfill campaign promises on immigrant health equity without veto-proof budget fights.

In summary, OBBBA's provisions were engineered to end "taxpayer-funded" (i.e., federal) benefits for undocumented immigrants, projecting over $200 billion in federal savings by tightening eligibility and reducing matches. Reversal would flip this by reinstating federal support, allowing states to sustainably fund coverage for an estimated 10-12 million undocumented residents, focusing on emergencies initially but enabling fuller access over time. This aligns with pre-2025 practices in 15+ states but scales it nationally without prohibitive state costs. Actual implementation would depend on new legislation, as full repeal isn't guaranteed in a divided Congress.
Missing is what Republicans define as illegal, which in most cases means any immigrant who isn’t a naturalized citizen

You forgot your source
 
that is because you are ignorant of what the shutdown is about. the democrats and your echo chamber are keeping you stupid. you should ask why they are keeping you uninformed. why do we always know more than you. how can you debate when you have no idea of the laws

What “parole” means in immigration law​


  • Parole is a legal tool under Immigration and Nationality Act §212(d)(5)(A).
  • It lets the executive branch temporarily let someone into the U.S. who otherwise doesn’t meet admission requirements.
Which compromises a small percentage of the population we are talking about, and, with the Executive parole, wouldn’t make them illegal now would it.

Interesting how with all the statements, tweets, talking head rhetoric the word “parole” is seldom if ever mentioned, kinda like their bullshit got debunked so they had to go back and move the goal posts to fit it in
 
Which compromises a small percentage of the population we are talking about, and, with the Executive parole, wouldn’t make them illegal now would it.

Interesting how with all the statements, tweets, talking head rhetoric the word “parole” is seldom if ever mentioned, kinda like their bullshit got debunked so they had to go back and move the goal posts to fit it in
Johnson and other GOP members call them illegals

democrats keep calling them citizens

both are being dishonest - but calling them citizens is way, way more dishonest. using the correct term - "parolee" leaves people like you clueless
 
Johnson and other GOP members calls them illegals

democrats keep calling them citizens

both are being dishonest - but calling them citizens is way, way more dishonest. using the correct term parolee though leaves people like you clueless
Johnson and GOP members consider any immigrant illegal, one of “those people,” and no one calls them citizens, the parole didn’t make them citizens
 
Johnson and GOP members consider any immigrant illegal, one of “those people,” and no one calls them citizens, the parole didn’t make them citizens
we had an election. we don't want to allow them into our bankrupt health care systems and campaigned on it - whatever you call them - they are not included.

you didn't include them beyond the two years when you did have the power - because you wanted to hide the costs instead. that is shitty behavior.

you hate democracy? apparently. open the motherfucking government and stop hiding the costs of your wishes
 
Missing is what Republicans define as illegal, which in most cases means any immigrant who isn’t a naturalized citizen

You forgot your source
This is nonsense, what I put there described exactly who could get the money and who could not, and told you how much money, it specified the places in the bill that I got the information from even. I gave you all the information. Everyone assumes that links are the only way to cite something. I gave you the section numbers in the OBBBA so you too could read it.
 
right now one party is trying to stop using Medicaid on the "Haitians eating our pets"

the other is shutting government down over those very same people

so we can stop with the obfuscations over if they are legal or illegal- we don't want to go further in debt for these socialists future voters that you so adore. we had an election over it. we won. now reopen government
The Repubs are shutting it down. They have the power. Trump has often said a shutdown is the president's fault. He is proving that to be true. This seems to be a plan so he can destroy more workers lives.
 
we had an election. we don't want to allow them into our bankrupt health care systems and campaigned on it - whatever you call them - they are not included.

you didn't include them beyond the two years when you did have the power - because you wanted to hide the costs instead. that is shitty behavior.

you hate democracy? apparently. open the motherfucking government and stop hiding the costs of your wishes
Doesn’t matter what you think about them, or any election, and the lane existed until the big and beautiful debacle ended funding

Hating Democracy, ah, I ain’t the one saying any election a Republican lose is fixed and any Court decision not going their way was prejudiced
 
“The Chuck Schumer-AOC wing of the Democratic party shut down the government because they said to us, we will open the government only if you give billions of dollars of funding to healthcare for illegal aliens. That’s a ridiculous proposition.”

It is also a false claim. US law bars undocumented immigrants from receiving the health care benefits Democrats are demanding, and the party has not called for a new act of Congress to change that.

trumptards are allergic the truth.
 
The shutdown seems to be an impasse over ACA, with the Republicans claiming the Dems are in favor of covering all illegal aliens. That’s a lie.

This shutdown bullshit happens every fucking year, regardless of who is in power.
Didn't happen during either Biden. Here's a recent list and who was president. Sure looks like most of them were under trump.

  • 1995: Under President Bill Clinton. Lasted five days.
  • 1996: Under Clinton. Lasted 21 days.
  • 2013: Under President Barack Obama. Lasted 17 days.
  • 2018: Under President Donald Trump. Lasted three days.
  • 2018: Under Trump. Lasted several hours.
  • 2019: Under Trump. Lasted 35 days and cost the economy about $3 billion, equal to 0.02% of GDP, according to the Congressional Budget Office.
  • 2025: Under Trump. Started on Oct. 1, 2025.
 
This is nonsense, what I put there described exactly who could get the money and who could not, and told you how much money, it specified the places in the bill that I got the information from even. I gave you all the information. Everyone assumes that links are the only way to cite something. I gave you the section numbers in the OBBBA so you too could read it.
“excludes refugees, asylees, parolees, and undocumented immigrants” in other words those here seeking asylum, refugees waiting on hearings, immigrants issued parole via WH, all illuminated in the Big Beautiful Bill, as I noted, who the Republicans define as illegal
 
Missing is what Republicans define as illegal, which in most cases means any immigrant who isn’t a naturalized citizen

You forgot your source
My source:


Listed in the post you quoted were definitions of who got the money before the Act passed, and how it changed. I cited the sections of the bill they are in. the link above has the bill. Read it. Live it. Love it. The reality. Folks who are, according to Democrats, "Undocumented Immigrants" and according to the law are "Illegal Aliens" and according to republicans are "Illegal Immigrants" get insurance paid for by some states and those states were being reimbursed. The OBBBA stopped much of that. The Democrats are holding out to get those things back, so that illegal immigrants will get free health insurance from our government.
 
So, it is all about the Democrats shutting down government to continue giving free health care to illegals, which is what I have posted.

Damo has presented the case with a source and link to prove that illegals were getting free health insurance in some states and that Democrats shut down the government to continue to give free health insurance to illegals.

Now, if any of you far left loons understand what “refute it,” means, then refute it.

It is now assured that the far left loons will stand on their heads to give free health insurance to illegals who broke our laws to come here and have no legal right to remain here and no right to receive one penny of government benefits, including free health insurance.
 
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“The Chuck Schumer-AOC wing of the Democratic party shut down the government because they said to us, we will open the government only if you give billions of dollars of funding to healthcare for illegal aliens. That’s a ridiculous proposition.”

It is also a false claim. US law bars undocumented immigrants from receiving the health care benefits Democrats are demanding, and the party has not called for a new act of Congress to change that.

the Democrats are to blame.

they insist on healthcare for illegals.
 
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