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No mate, I am exposing the hypocrisy of the Left and their endless fascination with Israel.
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blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Bullshit.
You're exposing that you know little to nothing about this country .. and exposing your own lack of standing.
Nothing personal, but you really don't know this country.
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I am exposing the arrogance and hypocrisy of the illiberal Left in the US and you are amply demonstrating that here. Tibet is the size of Western Europe and Israel is barely bigger than new Jersey. Far more Tibetans, including monks women and children, have been slaughtered by the Chinese but you show no interest. Chinese are incredibly racist to anybody that is not Han Chinese but the Left only recognises one type of racism to the exclusion of all others.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....china-s-race-problem?amp?client=chrome-mobile
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All he has to do is say nice things about him! How easy is this guy! Lol
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
You single out liberals .. please point out republican right-wing outrage over Tibet ..
Should I hold my breath?
In case you missed it, China is now all over Africa .. AND, are the PREFERED partners of Africans. China is the partner of choice.
This is what Africans really think of the Chinese
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/03/africa/what-africans-really-think-of-china/
The new scramble for Africa: how China became the partner of choice
https://www.theguardian.com/global-...africa-how-china-became-the-partner-of-choice
What Chinese investment means for African higher education
https://www.timeshighereducation.co...investment-means-for-african-higher-education
You're posting on an American site, supporting a bonafide racist, from England .. talking about how racist the Chinese are.
Hilarious
What you're exposing is how blind you are.
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So I will post an article from the New Yorker which is American I believe. As for right wingers they don't concern themselves overly with either the Palestinians or Tibetans. Arafat had his chance to settle and he walked away, now Fatah and Hamas hate each other's guts and can't even agree to hold fresh elections. The Palestinian people deserve better than that bunch of corrupt bastards.
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/china-in-africa-the-new-imperialists
However it is odd how you keep attempting to shift blame, this tells me that you find the whole thing uncomfortable which can only be good.
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blackascoal
The Force is With Me
"right wingers they don't concern themselves overly with either the Palestinians or Tibetans"
Yet you single out liberals, not Americans for not supporting the Tibetans. Shallow and agenda driven.
I don't believe you are racist .. just confused. I think you're probably a good guy that I could share tea and crumpets with over a robust political conversation. But your politics are confusing and disconnected. You don't know as much about this country as you think you do .. which is probably what you'd say about me if I dabbled in British politics as you seem to do in ours.
My favorite British politician is George Galloway .. who provided to the world the most complete unmasking of the American war machine, and the total idiocy of the American Senate in history.
You might disagree with that. :0)
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I blow hot and cold with Gorgeous George, I agree with him on his anti-EU stance and admire that he shared a platform with Nigel Farage. I also love the way he humiliated the arseholes on that Senate committee.
I am sure that you know more about the US but I am talking about right and wrong, which are immutable concepts not governed by parochial politics or at least they shouldn't be. Moonbat tells us that international law is clear that countries cannot invade and sequester territory. I point out that only Israel is systematically singled out when places like Tibet, Kashmir and many others are mostly ignored. The Russians would dearly love to take back Ukraine and the Baltic states, without NATO Putin would have done that years ago. They have already started with the Crimea.
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blackascoal
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Galloway's beatdown of the American Senate was a classic for all time. You should watch the full version.
Trust me, they won't be inviting him back. :0)
But as I said to you, you cannot save the entire world. One has to choose their battles just to stay sane.
Israel is a welfare state supported by American tax dollars. Americans have more right to speak to the atrocities supported by our dollars than anything going on in Tibet.
That has far less to do with right or wrong than it has to do with capacity and sanity.
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Well tell Moonbat that his constant refrain that international law prohibits taking and occupying land is ocean going bullshit. He should add the codicil that it only applies to Israel. Russia, China and Pakistan are exempt from this law.
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moon
Satire for Sanity
“The Security Council,
“Reaffirming its relevant resolutions, including resolutions 242 (1967), 338 (1973), 446 (1979), 452 (1979), 465 (1980), 476 (1980), 478 (1980), 1397 (2002), 1515 (2003), and 1850 (2008),
"Guided by the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations, and reaffirming, inter alia, the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by force,
“Reaffirming the obligation of Israel, the occupying Power, to abide scrupulously by its legal obligations and responsibilities under the Fourth Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, of 12 August 1949, and recalling the advisory opinion rendered on 9 July 2004 by the International Court of Justice,
“Condemning all measures aimed at altering the demographic composition, character and status of the Palestinian Territory occupied since 1967, including East Jerusalem, including, inter alia, the construction and expansion of settlements, transfer of Israeli settlers, confiscation of land, demolition of homes and displacement of Palestinian civilians, in violation of international humanitarian law and relevant resolutions,
“Expressing grave concern that continuing Israeli settlement activities are dangerously imperilling the viability of the two-State solution based on the 1967 lines,
“Recalling the obligation under the Quartet Roadmap, endorsed by its resolution 1515 (2003), for a freeze by Israel of all settlement activity, including “natural growth”, and the dismantlement of all settlement outposts erected since March 2001,
“Recalling also the obligation under the Quartet roadmap for the Palestinian Authority Security Forces to maintain effective operations aimed at confronting all those engaged in terror and dismantling terrorist capabilities, including the confiscation of illegal weapons,
“Condemning all acts of violence against civilians, including acts of terror, as well as all acts of provocation, incitement and destruction,
“Reiterating its vision of a region where two democratic States, Israel and Palestine, live side by side in peace within secure and recognized borders,
“Stressing that the status quo is not sustainable and that significant steps, consistent with the transition contemplated by prior agreements, are urgently needed in order to (i) stabilize the situation and to reverse negative trends on the ground, which are steadily eroding the two-State solution and entrenching a one-State reality, and (ii) to create the conditions for successful final status negotiations and for advancing the two-State solution through those negotiations and on the ground,
“1. Reaffirms that the establishment by Israel of settlements in the Palestinian territory occupied since 1967, including East Jerusalem, has no legal validity and constitutes a flagrant violation under international law and a major obstacle to the achievement of the two-State solution and a just, lasting and comprehensive peace;
“2. Reiterates its demand that Israel immediately and completely cease all settlement activities in the occupied Palestinian territory, including East Jerusalem, and that it fully respect all of its legal obligations in this regard;
“3. Underlines that it will not recognize any changes to the 4 June 1967 lines, including with regard to Jerusalem, other than those agreed by the parties through negotiations;
“4. Stresses that the cessation of all Israeli settlement activities is essential for salvaging the two-State solution, and calls for affirmative steps to be taken immediately to reverse the negative trends on the ground that are imperilling the two-State solution;
“5. Calls upon all States, bearing in mind paragraph 1 of this resolution, to distinguish, in their relevant dealings, between the territory of the State of Israel and the territories occupied since 1967;
“6. Calls for immediate steps to prevent all acts of violence against civilians, including acts of terror, as well as all acts of provocation and destruction, calls for accountability in this regard, and calls for compliance with obligations under international law for the strengthening of ongoing efforts to combat terrorism, including through existing security coordination, and to clearly condemn all acts of terrorism;
“7. Calls upon both parties to act on the basis of international law, including international humanitarian law, and their previous agreements and obligations, to observe calm and restraint, and to refrain from provocative actions, incitement and inflammatory rhetoric, with the aim, inter alia, of de-escalating the situation on the ground, rebuilding trust and confidence, demonstrating through policies and actions a genuine commitment to the two-State solution, and creating the conditions necessary for promoting peace;
“8. Calls upon all parties to continue, in the interest of the promotion of peace and security, to exert collective efforts to launch credible negotiations on all final status issues in the Middle East peace process and within the time frame specified by the Quartet in its statement of 21 September 2010;
“9. Urges in this regard the intensification and acceleration of international and regional diplomatic efforts and support aimed at achieving, without delay a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East on the basis of the relevant United Nations resolutions, the Madrid terms of reference, including the principle of land for peace, the Arab Peace Initiative and the Quartet Roadmap and an end to the Israeli occupation that began in 1967; and underscores in this regard the importance of the ongoing efforts to advance the Arab Peace Initiative, the initiative of France for the convening of an international peace conference, the recent efforts of the Quartet, as well as the efforts of Egypt and the Russian Federation;
“10. Confirms its determination to support the parties throughout the negotiations and in the implementation of an agreement;
“11. Reaffirms its determination to examine practical ways and means to secure the full implementation of its relevant resolutions;
“12. Requests the Secretary-General to report to the Council every three months on the implementation of the provisions of the present resolution;
“13. Decides to remain seized of the matter.”
“Reaffirming its relevant resolutions, including resolutions 242 (1967), 338 (1973), 446 (1979), 452 (1979), 465 (1980), 476 (1980), 478 (1980), 1397 (2002), 1515 (2003), and 1850 (2008),
"Guided by the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations, and reaffirming, inter alia, the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by force,
“Reaffirming the obligation of Israel, the occupying Power, to abide scrupulously by its legal obligations and responsibilities under the Fourth Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, of 12 August 1949, and recalling the advisory opinion rendered on 9 July 2004 by the International Court of Justice,
“Condemning all measures aimed at altering the demographic composition, character and status of the Palestinian Territory occupied since 1967, including East Jerusalem, including, inter alia, the construction and expansion of settlements, transfer of Israeli settlers, confiscation of land, demolition of homes and displacement of Palestinian civilians, in violation of international humanitarian law and relevant resolutions,
“Expressing grave concern that continuing Israeli settlement activities are dangerously imperilling the viability of the two-State solution based on the 1967 lines,
“Recalling the obligation under the Quartet Roadmap, endorsed by its resolution 1515 (2003), for a freeze by Israel of all settlement activity, including “natural growth”, and the dismantlement of all settlement outposts erected since March 2001,
“Recalling also the obligation under the Quartet roadmap for the Palestinian Authority Security Forces to maintain effective operations aimed at confronting all those engaged in terror and dismantling terrorist capabilities, including the confiscation of illegal weapons,
“Condemning all acts of violence against civilians, including acts of terror, as well as all acts of provocation, incitement and destruction,
“Reiterating its vision of a region where two democratic States, Israel and Palestine, live side by side in peace within secure and recognized borders,
“Stressing that the status quo is not sustainable and that significant steps, consistent with the transition contemplated by prior agreements, are urgently needed in order to (i) stabilize the situation and to reverse negative trends on the ground, which are steadily eroding the two-State solution and entrenching a one-State reality, and (ii) to create the conditions for successful final status negotiations and for advancing the two-State solution through those negotiations and on the ground,
“1. Reaffirms that the establishment by Israel of settlements in the Palestinian territory occupied since 1967, including East Jerusalem, has no legal validity and constitutes a flagrant violation under international law and a major obstacle to the achievement of the two-State solution and a just, lasting and comprehensive peace;
“2. Reiterates its demand that Israel immediately and completely cease all settlement activities in the occupied Palestinian territory, including East Jerusalem, and that it fully respect all of its legal obligations in this regard;
“3. Underlines that it will not recognize any changes to the 4 June 1967 lines, including with regard to Jerusalem, other than those agreed by the parties through negotiations;
“4. Stresses that the cessation of all Israeli settlement activities is essential for salvaging the two-State solution, and calls for affirmative steps to be taken immediately to reverse the negative trends on the ground that are imperilling the two-State solution;
“5. Calls upon all States, bearing in mind paragraph 1 of this resolution, to distinguish, in their relevant dealings, between the territory of the State of Israel and the territories occupied since 1967;
“6. Calls for immediate steps to prevent all acts of violence against civilians, including acts of terror, as well as all acts of provocation and destruction, calls for accountability in this regard, and calls for compliance with obligations under international law for the strengthening of ongoing efforts to combat terrorism, including through existing security coordination, and to clearly condemn all acts of terrorism;
“7. Calls upon both parties to act on the basis of international law, including international humanitarian law, and their previous agreements and obligations, to observe calm and restraint, and to refrain from provocative actions, incitement and inflammatory rhetoric, with the aim, inter alia, of de-escalating the situation on the ground, rebuilding trust and confidence, demonstrating through policies and actions a genuine commitment to the two-State solution, and creating the conditions necessary for promoting peace;
“8. Calls upon all parties to continue, in the interest of the promotion of peace and security, to exert collective efforts to launch credible negotiations on all final status issues in the Middle East peace process and within the time frame specified by the Quartet in its statement of 21 September 2010;
“9. Urges in this regard the intensification and acceleration of international and regional diplomatic efforts and support aimed at achieving, without delay a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East on the basis of the relevant United Nations resolutions, the Madrid terms of reference, including the principle of land for peace, the Arab Peace Initiative and the Quartet Roadmap and an end to the Israeli occupation that began in 1967; and underscores in this regard the importance of the ongoing efforts to advance the Arab Peace Initiative, the initiative of France for the convening of an international peace conference, the recent efforts of the Quartet, as well as the efforts of Egypt and the Russian Federation;
“10. Confirms its determination to support the parties throughout the negotiations and in the implementation of an agreement;
“11. Reaffirms its determination to examine practical ways and means to secure the full implementation of its relevant resolutions;
“12. Requests the Secretary-General to report to the Council every three months on the implementation of the provisions of the present resolution;
“13. Decides to remain seized of the matter.”
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
I keep impressing on you the glaring difference.
Welfare state .. our tax dollars.
We do not support China, Russia, or Pakistan.
AND, few places in the world are people treated as brutally as the Israelis treat the Palestinian people .. AND, Israel TARGETS little Palestinian children.
Israel Tortures Palestinian Children; Keeps Them In Outdoor Cages In Winter: Rights Group
http://www.mintpressnews.com/israel...-outdoor-cages-in-winter-rights-group/212808/
My question is .. how do you ignore such atrocities?
moon
Satire for Sanity
Warning ; This content may offend and frighten neoZionist fascists.
FULL TRANSCRIPT: Kerry Blasts Israeli Government, Presents Six Points of Future Peace Deal
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.761881
I wonder how long it will take the neoZionists to see the end of the road.
FULL TRANSCRIPT: Kerry Blasts Israeli Government, Presents Six Points of Future Peace Deal
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.761881
I wonder how long it will take the neoZionists to see the end of the road.
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There are many terrible things going on in the world, most of which are ignored by the media. To say that Israel is the worst is truly fatuous nonsense. I also don't think it's really about money, I very much doubt that if it were taken away anything would change.I keep impressing on you the glaring difference.
Welfare state .. our tax dollars.
We do not support China, Russia, or Pakistan.
AND, few places in the world are people treated as brutally as the Israelis treat the Palestinian people .. AND, Israel TARGETS little Palestinian children.
Israel Tortures Palestinian Children; Keeps Them In Outdoor Cages In Winter: Rights Group
http://www.mintpressnews.com/israel...-outdoor-cages-in-winter-rights-group/212808/
My question is .. how do you ignore such atrocities?
If is plainly obvious to me that the Arab world couldn't give a shit about the Palestinians. Why else were they expelled from Jordan, Lebanon and Kuwait? Saudi Arabia could easily give them a good standard of living but prefers to have them living in poverty for the most part, so much for Arab solidarity.
Here are some facts for you, Israel will never go back to the 1967 boundaries. They will never give back the Golan Heights and I know that there is absolutely no way on Earth that are either capable of or indeed willing to expel nearly half a million people. They will also never negotiate with two different factions like Hamas and the PA, they hate each other almost as much as they hate Israelis. These are incontrovertible facts, unpleasant maybe but true nonetheless.
If you want to get them talking again then you ought to be pressuring the Palestinians to heal their differences and act as one. They also need new elections, it has been over 10 years now.
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Lightbringer
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Some pretty good points actually but do you really not understand why Arab countries aren't taking in the Palestinians?
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Because their noses were put out of joint by all the defeats they have suffered so now they are using the Palestinian cause to punish the Israelis indirectly. The trend over the years has been to kick them out as they cause so much trouble. They nearly overthrew the Hashemites, caused the Lebanese civil war and were a source of much friction in Kuwait after the first Gulf War.
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Lightbringer
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What do you think would happen if the Palestinians were are taken in by other countries?
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It will never happen, so I've not given it much thought. Who would take them anyway, certainly not the Saudis or the UAE. Egypt could give them some of the Sinai contiguous to the Gaza Strip but they won't either.
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