Unfortunately Von Brunn is not the exception.

Neoconservatism, which came out of the Jewish intellectual community, is seen as a code word for Jewish, and neoconservatism is actually widely adhered to across the Democratic party. By neoconservativism, I mean the idea that Arab societies must be made into democracies in order to solve the terrorism problem in the Middle East. That idea is widely shared, by Mel Levine Democrats, the former Joe Lieberman Israel-first wing of the Democratic Party that has not gone over to McCain. Robert Wexler, Howard Berman, Steven Grossman, Marty Peretz. And yes, obviously, there is a Jewish component to this wing (which justified the Iraq war because Saddam paid for suicide bombers in Israel) and it is simply too important financially to the Democratic Party to alienate in any way. Jewish money, said Seymour Hersh.
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http://www.philipweiss.org/mondowei...d-guys-on-wall-street-who-screwed-up-the.html

:bdh:
 
Southern Man said:
A “right winger” who hates Bush, McCain, Christians, Bill O’Reilly, Fox News, the Weekly Standard, and neoconservatives. :rolleyes:
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McCain criticized the Shrub, was villified by the neocon driven GOP during the 2008 campaign as NOT a true conservative. Do the reasearch if you don't believe me.

O'Reilly has gone on record as criticizing both McCain and the Shrub when they deviated or disagreed with the PNAC agenda or what neocons consider true conservatism on key issues. Do the reasearch if you don't believe me.

The same thing can be said for the Weekly Standard and Fox News.

Yet NONE of these entities would EVER be considered "liberal".

Like I tried to educate you before, genius.....folk like Von Brunn were so extreme that they hated ANYONE who deviated from their own particular brand of values....EVEN THOUGH THOSE PEOPLE MAY HAVE SHARED MANY OF THEIR VIEWPOINTS PREVIOUSLY, BE THEY SOCIAL AND/OR POLITICAL. Case in point, Von Brunn was on the bandwagon about the "liberal" media persecuting Sarah Palin.

So if you're done rolling your eyes and shrugging, maybe you can honestly answer the question I put to: Can you produce the names of bonafide "liberals" that have stated the same racist viewpoints as Von Brunn? If you can't then you were wrong. Grow up.
 
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I find it amazing how the neocons are desperately trying to paint Von Brunn as some sort of liberal gone mad, instead of the extremist right winger steeped in bigotry and racism. What's got them all upset is how easily folk can quote the neocon iconic pundits that are so in step with rants quoted from Von Brunn's writings over the years.

Of course, they have to ignore major parts of Von Brunn's writings, and then add a dash of revisionism in order to make their silliness seem palatable.
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As even some “progressives” such as the influential Adbusters magazine publicly admit, “neoconservative” is often used as a derogatory code word for “Jews”.
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McCain criticized the Shrub, was villified by the neocon driven GOP during the 2008 campaign as NOT a true conservative. Do the reasearch if you don't believe me.

O'Reilly has gone on record as criticizing both McCain and the Shrub when they deviated or disagreed with the PNAC agenda or what neocons consider true conservatism on key issues. Do the reasearch if you don't believe me.

The same thing can be said for the Weekly Standard and Fox News.

Yet NONE of these entities would EVER be considered "liberal".

Like I tried to educate you before, genius.....folk like Von Brunn were so extreme that they hated ANYONE who deviated from their own particular brand of values....EVEN THOUGH THOSE PEOPLE MAY HAVE SHARED MANY OF THEIR VIEWPOINTS PREVIOUSLY, BE THEY SOCIAL AND/OR POLITICAL. Case in point, Von Brunn was on the bandwagon about the "liberal" media persecuting Sarah Palin.

So if you're done rolling your eyes and shrugging, maybe you can honestly answer the question I put to: Can you produce the names of bonafide "liberals" that have stated the same racist viewpoints as Von Brunn? If you can't then you were wrong. Because all you've done is given me some absurd conjecture from willfully ignorant neocon bloggers who make generalized states, relate to half of history and fill the rest with supposition. Someone should clue in your source material authors that fascism like that of Mussolini's Italy was NOT liberal...the National Front in England HATES people of African and Arab/Indian descent. Oh and Chomsky is NOT a Holocaust denier....Never has been and NONE of his writings suggest or allude to such. Hate mongers latch onto ANYONE who criticizes the policies of the Israeli gov't...take bits and parts, and attach their racist propaganda to it. You have Jewish people calling other Jews "self hating" because they criticize Israel, and their is an entire sect of Hasidic Jews that will point to scripture to bolster their claim that the State of Israel was a creation of man's politics that doesn't follow the prophetic teachings. These people are NOT Holocaust deniers or anti-semites...but bigots and racists will take parts of their message to claim a false legitimacy for their racism. (hate the Jew, but agree with him at the same time? Can you say convoluted, boys and girls?)

Like you, your source material does a half assed job of dealing with fact based research....Grow up.
 
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Neoconservatism, which came out of the Jewish intellectual community, is seen as a code word for Jewish, and neoconservatism is actually widely adhered to across the Democratic party. By neoconservativism, I mean the idea that Arab societies must be made into democracies in order to solve the terrorism problem in the Middle East. That idea is widely shared, by Mel Levine Democrats, the former Joe Lieberman Israel-first wing of the Democratic Party that has not gone over to McCain. Robert Wexler, Howard Berman, Steven Grossman, Marty Peretz. And yes, obviously, there is a Jewish component to this wing (which justified the Iraq war because Saddam paid for suicide bombers in Israel) and it is simply too important financially to the Democratic Party to alienate in any way. Jewish money, said Seymour Hersh.
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Southern Man said:
http://www.philipweiss.org/mondowei...d-guys-on-wall-street-who-screwed-up-the.html

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So according to the assholes that gave us the last 8 years and their punditry...if you criticize neocons, you're an anti-semite. I swear the convoluted logic behind that BS would be funny if it weren't so pathetic once people read COMPREHENSIVELY the recent history and who is involved. Someone needs to clue this joker in.

From the Merriam-webster dictionary:

Neoconservatism

1 : a former liberal espousing political conservatism
2 : a conservative who advocates the assertive promotion of democracy and United States national interest in international affairs including through military means

FYI - "neo" means "new"

And here's a breakdown of how neoconservatism has taken in our political arena:

http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=19618

which is appropo to this little ditty and it's authors

http://www.newamericancentury.org/



Now this bloggers article expresses the OPINION that he doesn't like Obama and is not happy with what might happen with his foreign policy regarding Israel....and makes a LOT of accusations that Obama's campaign decisions happpened EXACTLY like he stated. Unfortunately, there is no corroboration from other sources. He's more than entitled to his opinion and theories.....but they are NOT conclusive facts as he states them.

And again, WHERE IS THE EXACT ANTI-SEMETIC RANTINGS QUOTE FROM OBAMA THAT YOU FIND THROUGHOUT Von Brunn's history of writings. Also, where are the FACTS that Obama is producing some sort of anti-Israel foreign policy. Remember, criticism of Israel/Palestine situation is not automatically anti-semetic.

I'm still waiting for an honest anwer.
 
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tom prendergast said:
A Southern man whipping a black man, I see that old habits die hard down in Dixie.
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As does old neocon parrot training. Note the cast of characters that are squawking with glee over a few quotes from our flailing Southern Man that STILL do not directly address the question I asked him.

They are all so bitter because I humilitate them in an honest debate. They just can't stand to have their world view challenged....and note that Blabba is STILL hiding behind others and throwing rocks. She's still pissed at the drubbing I gave her on the AOL boards. :rolleyes:
 
So according to the assholes that gave us the last 8 years and their punditry...if you criticize neocons, you're an anti-semite.
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Dixie said:
I think you should stop your brain from thinking so much, you are obviously nearing a critical overload!
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And all you've got is some childish babbling, the equivalent of sticking your tongue out.

Neither SM or you or any other of the neocon clowns on these boards can meet the simple burden of proof regarding names of liberals that expose the exact anti-semetic, racists rants as Von Brunn over the years.

I'm pointing out EXACTLY what SM and his sources are trying to perpetrait. It's convoluted nonsense, and once all the facts are presented, the rational, educated person realizes this. That you can't think past neocon mantras is not unusual for a clown still waving the Confederate flag. Carry on.
 
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And his song was dead accurate, given that Jim Crow laws still existed in the South until the early 1960's....a matter of history, a matter of FACT. Shrug that one off, chuckles.
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Yeah, and the song was recorded in 1970, nearly a decade later... par for the course when it comes to pinheads. Hell, here it is, 45 years since the Civil Rights Act, and pinheads are still blathering nonsense as if it only happened yesterday. I guess it just takes you morons that long to catch up with the times, huh?
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
And his song was dead accurate, given that Jim Crow laws still existed in the South until the early 1960's....a matter of history, a matter of FACT. Shrug that one off, chuckles.
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Dixie said:
Yeah, and the song was recorded in 1970, nearly a decade later... par for the course when it comes to pinheads. Hell, here it is, 45 years since the Civil Rights Act, and pinheads are still blathering nonsense as if it only happened yesterday. I guess it just takes you morons that long to catch up with the times, huh?
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If you're young, I'll excuse your ignorant rants because the school systems just are not what they use to be. If not....so much more to pity you.

Do a little research about 1968, master mind....what occured, who were the major players pro & con (I'm sick and tired of doing other's homework). Neil Young's song is about what he experienced. Apologist for bigots and racists are always trying to pretend that everything magically changed over night with regards to the Civil Rights movment. They highlight the positives, and ignore the negatives.

But unfortunately for jokers like you (and the rest of us) Von Brunn is a sobering reminder that old habits....and mindsets....die hard in this country.

Carry on, you Confederate flag waving cretin.
 
Neither SM or you or any other of the neocon clowns on these boards can meet the simple burden of proof regarding names of liberals that expose the exact anti-semetic, racists rants as Von Brunn over the years.
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No, you liberals tend to keep your bigotry and prejudice under your hat, and appease your guilty conscience by passing things into law, like Affirmative Action.

For the record, you've not shown a mainstream conservative voice which has expressed Von Brunn's views either. That hasn't stopped you from tepidly implying that to be the case.
 
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