Under Trump, border catch-and-release has dropped 99.99% from worst Biden month

Damocles said:
LOL. Um, no. Effective border security was something done without such "reform". Your reading comprehension leaves much to be desired.

Removing folks that shouldn't be here continues, that is what my post said, though the border is now infinitely more secure without a single change in law we still have the effects of the Braindead Administration's lax border security to deal with.
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If that is the way you measure success, militarizing the border, but what happens when the next Administration decides to reverse Trump’s EO’s to reprioritize funding toward other programs? What happens if the northern border becomes porous?

As I said, real immigration reform will only come thru Congressional action
 
Truth Detector said:
They also speak to the dumb lies promoted by Biden, Myorkas, Democrats in Congress and their media enablers too.
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And lest we forget how the so-called border czar camela kept saying the border was secure. These libs are all
seriously crazy and seriously destructive to America's safety.
 
archives said:
If that is the way you measure success, militarizing the border, but what happens when the next Administration decides to reverse Trump’s EO’s to reprioritize funding toward other programs? What happens if the northern border becomes porous?

As I said, real immigration reform will only come thru Congressional action
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If they choose to devalue border security then it will be less effectively secured. However, that is was so quickly secured without a change in the law puts lie to your suggestion that the "only path" to a secure border is through your selective use of "reform".

We pass laws constantly, it almost never makes things better. Just enforcing the current laws appear to be enough to get things done effectively. Shouting reform at everyone in the face of evidence like this is a bit questionable.
 
archives said:
If that is the way you measure success, militarizing the border, but what happens when the next Administration decides to reverse Trump’s EO’s to reprioritize funding toward other programs? What happens if the northern border becomes porous?

As I said, real immigration reform will only come thru Congressional action
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You're kidding, right? Real immigration reform is already completely done under this current Trump administration. Take another look
at the figure of having 99.9% of the border secure now that Trump is president. And Trump didn't need to go through congress to have
any of his successful border control actions take place. As long as we don't get an open border policy like we had for 4 years under
biden with the election of a dem potus, then that 99.9% secure border will likely go up to 100% secure.
 
Damocles said:
If they choose to devalue border security then it will be less effectively secured. However, that is was so quickly secured without a change in the law puts lie to your suggestion that the "only path" to a secure border is through your selective use of "reform".

We pass laws constantly, it almost never makes things better. Just enforcing the current laws appear to be enough to get things done effectively. Shouting reform at everyone in the face of evidence like this is a bit questionable.
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The “it was so quickly secured” proves my point, because it was thru EO’s it can so easily be reversed with the next President’s EO. And we haven’t had immigration reform since Reagan, both Congressional attempts were killed for political reasons. The laws we have now are part of the problem
 
archives said:
The “it was so quickly secured” proves my point, because it was thru EO’s it can so easily be reversed with the next President’s EO. And we haven’t had immigration reform since Reagan, both Congressional attempts were killed for political reasons. The laws we have now are part of the problem
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The EOs rely on the laws that are in place, the laws we have now are what has been effective.
 
Libhater said:
You're kidding, right? Real immigration reform is already completely done under this current Trump administration. Take another look
at the figure of having 99.9% of the border secure now that Trump is president. And Trump didn't need to go through congress to have
any of his successful border control actions take place. As long as we don't get an open border policy like we had for 4 years under
biden with the election of a dem potus, then that 99.9% secure border will likely go up to 100% secure.
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No, as I am getting tired of explaining, the next Administration can easily reverse Trump’s EO’s, decide they don’t want to pay to militarize, rather allocate funds in a different direction. The only thing that can prevent that is Congressional action, and the only thing getting thru Congress is actual immigration reform
 
archives said:
EO’s are easily reversed
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Again, if they choose not to prioritize the border laws passed will not change their priorities. Biden ignored laws regarding asylum, devalued border security, and aided illegal entry. Passing more laws would not change what he did or what folks that think like him will do.

What laws do you think would have forced the Braindead Administration to actually enforce the laws that are on the books rather than using EOs to circumvent them?
 
archives said:
No, as I am getting tired of explaining, the next Administration can easily reverse Trump’s EO’s, decide they don’t want to pay to militarize, rather allocate funds in a different direction. The only thing that can prevent that is Congressional action, and the only thing getting thru Congress is actual immigration reform
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Biden's open border policy didn't or wasn't done by his taking congressional action, no, he did that with his executive orders. The next administration (which will certainly be a Republican one) will have no reason to undo Trump's successful secure border policies that he did
without the possibility of having congress reverse his success. Now, if we unfortunately get a Marxist/Democrat administration, then
our country will be once again open to any and all worldwide foreign illegals to roam through the United States.
 
Libhater said:
Biden's open border policy didn't or wasn't done by his taking congressional action, no, he did that with his executive orders. The next administration (which will certainly be a Republican one) will have no reason to undo Trump's successful secure border policies that he did
without the possibility of having congress reverse his success. Now, if we unfortunately get a Marxist/Democrat administration, then
our country will be once again open to any and all worldwide foreign illegals to roam through the United States.
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You made my point, EO’s are only applicable till the next EO, only Congressional action will solve the problem
 
archives said:
I prefer a complete reform of the nation’s immigration laws, which had a start last year but Trump killed it so that he could pimp immigration as a campaign issue, constant EO’s are just putting your finger in the dam
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So what specifically would you prefer?
 
Damocles said:
Again, if they choose not to prioritize the border laws passed will not change their priorities. Biden ignored laws regarding asylum, devalued border security, and aided illegal entry. Passing more laws would not change what he did or what folks that think like him will do.

What laws do you think would have forced the Braindead Administration to actually enforce the laws that are on the books rather than using EOs to circumvent them?
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Specifically, what laws did the last Administration ignore? In fact the existing nebulous laws are part of the problem
 
archives said:
Specifically, what laws did the last Administration ignore? In fact the existing nebulous laws are part of the problem
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Nonsense. The laws are not nebulous. That enforcing them turned the situation around rather than ignoring them indicates the opposite. What is nebulous is in how the Executive chooses to execute the laws.

Again, I ask, what exact changes in law do you think would force someone like the Braindead Administration to actually secure the border?
 
Damocles said:
Nonsense. The laws are not nebulous. That enforcing them turned the situation around rather than ignoring them indicates the opposite. What is nebulous is in how the Executive chooses to execute the laws.

Again, I ask, what exact changes in law do you think would force someone like the Braindead Administration to actually secure the border?
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You didn’t answer the question, what law did the last Administration ignore?

Laws are nebulous, antiquated, for example those covering asylum and refugee status
 
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