Under pressure FBI Director Kash Patel claims agency has ‘evidence’ that 2020 election was stolen from Trump: ‘Stay tuned this week'

Into the Night said:
There are not 11,780 members of the electoral college, anchovies.

Some election officials are going to get prosecuted, anchovies. Election fraud is a crime.

You can't make the election fraud that Democrats committed just disappear, anchovies.
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Ah, no, that was the number of votes Trump begged Raffensperger to find for him, try to keep up

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is what Kash said, which by the way he said would be exposed this week, have you seen Kash’s proof yet

Don’t have to, no need to make that which never existed disappear, duh
 
Damocles said:
About 70% of Democrats support the changes, about 85% of Republicans... This is a no brainer. I has nothing to do with the poster you hate, etc. It is about 80% of the population of the United States including unaffiliated voters, democrats, socialist morons, etc. support voter ID. Only the Confirmed Leftist religion doesn't want it.
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The issue is that you are so gullible and so duped AGAIN that you actually believe that if the Dems agreed with these changes and continued to win elections that this would solve the "lack of confidence" issue.

That is on you Damo for being so incredibly dumb and gullible.

I will say again that the "lack of confidence issue" has nothing to do with the procedures in place, NOTHING. ZERO, and is entirely tied to democrats winning. If Republicans begun winning every election tomorrow the magats "confidence" would suddenly be there and no changes would be necessary.

But as long as Dems win, magats will claim "a lack of confidence and that MORE changes are needed".
Trump alleges Democrats won 'crooked victory' in 'rigged' Virginia redistricting election
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If a person or group has a completely irrational fear not tied to reality then no other person can fix it by trying to placate them with rational measures. It does not work that way.
 
archives said:
Ah, no, that was the number of votes Trump begged Raffensperger to find for him, try to keep up

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is what Kash said, which by the way he said would be exposed this week, have you seen Kash’s proof yet

Don’t have to, no need to make that which never existed disappear, duh
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You can't make the election fraud committed by Democrats just disappear, anchovies.
You can't make ANY of it's evidence just disappear either.
 
QP! said:
The issue is that you are so gullible and so duped AGAIN that you actually believe that if the Dems agreed with these changes and continued to win elections that this would solve the "lack of confidence" issue.

That is on you Damo for being so incredibly dumb and gullible.

I will say again that the "lack of confidence issue" has nothing to do with the procedures in place, NOTHING. ZERO, and is entirely tied to democrats winning. If Republicans begun winning every election tomorrow the magats "confidence" would suddenly be there and no changes would be necessary.

But as long as Dems win, magats will claim "a lack of confidence and that MORE changes are needed".

If a person or group has a completely irrational fear not tied to reality then no other person can fix it by trying to placate them with rational measures. It does not work that way.
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Democrats don't want elections.
Election fraud is not an election.
Magats is not a word.
Go learn what 'reality' means and how it's defined. There is no Universal Reality.
 
For those like @Damocles duped into thinking you can take actions and make changes to satisfy magats to the point they will "trust" or get "confidence" in the system i submit the below video in which magats were showing up at polling stations to demand a 'stop to the count' in States were Trump was ahead, but in the second part of that split screen video those people first started with 'stop the count' and switched to 'count every vote' when they realized, in their State Trump was down and expected to come back later...


What the above PROVES, and dupes like Damo are too daft to see is that the ONLY WAY magats will ever trust and be happy and stop demanding changes is when Dems simply cannot win. There is NO AMOUNT of changes one could make today that would give them 'confidence' if the Dems win tomorrow.
 
QP! said:
For those like @Damocles duped into thinking you can take actions and make changes to satisfy magats to the point they will "trust" or get "confidence" in the system i submit the below video in which magats were showing up at polling stations to demand a 'stop to the count' in States were Trump was ahead, but in the second part of that split screen video those people first started with 'stop the count' and switched to 'count every vote' when they realized, in their State Trump was down and expected to come back later...


What the above PROVES, and dupes like Damo are too daft to see is that the ONLY WAY magats will ever trust and be happy and stop demanding changes is when Dems simply cannot win. There is NO AMOUNT of changes one could make today that would give them 'confidence' if the Dems win tomorrow.
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You can't make the election fraud committed by Democrats just disappear, Kewpie.
 
QP! said:
For those like @Damocles duped into thinking you can take actions and make changes to satisfy magats to the point they will "trust" or get "confidence" in the system i submit the below video in which magats were showing up at polling stations to demand a 'stop to the count' in States were Trump was ahead, but in the second part of that split screen video those people first started with 'stop the count' and switched to 'count every vote' when they realized, in their State Trump was down and expected to come back later...


What the above PROVES, and dupes like Damo are too daft to see is that the ONLY WAY magats will ever trust and be happy and stop demanding changes is when Dems simply cannot win. There is NO AMOUNT of changes one could make today that would give them 'confidence' if the Dems win tomorrow.
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MAGAts are like children.
 
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gfm7175 said:
Exactly. There's no way that he legitimately received over 81 million votes.

Yes, I realize that Democrats don't have anything good to vote for, and that they are driven by their hatred, but there's no way that over 81 million people voted against Trump.

You're right... it's not.

It just plain doesn't make any sense (outside of election fraud occurring) that voter turnout saw a truly historic spike for "Joe Biden" (who was the puppet for the Autopen that actually ran the show), even above and beyond the voter turnout spike that was seen for "Black Jesus" (Obama).

Then Trump gets a historic win in 2024 (77.3M votes), and that total is still 4M less than what Biden was claimed to have received (81.28M) even though the voting-age population grew. Why did many MILLIONS of "people" "turn out" for 2020 but "stay at home" for 2024? Why was there LESS turnout in 2024 than in 2020 (even though voting-age population grew)? Was Biden truly THAT much more loved than Kamala or Clinton or even Obama?
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1) Was ~81 million votes for Biden real?​


Yes.


In the official certified results of the 2020 U.S. presidential election:


  • Joe Biden received about 81.3 million votes
  • Donald Trump received about 74.2 million votes

These numbers come from state-certified results, which are publicly audited, recounted in some states, and reviewed in multiple court cases.


There is no evidence accepted by courts or election audits showing that those totals were fraudulent.



2) “There’s no way that many people voted that way”​


This is a claim of disbelief, not evidence.


The 2020 election had:


  • the highest voter turnout in modern U.S. history (~66–67% of eligible voters)
  • expanded mail-in voting due to the COVID-19 pandemic
  • high polarization on both sides, driving turnout up for both candidates

High turnout alone is not evidence of fraud—it is consistent with documented conditions in 2020.



3) Why did turnout change in 2024?​


In 2024:


  • Total votes were slightly lower than 2020
  • Both major candidates received fewer votes than the 2020 Biden/Trump totals

This kind of fluctuation is normal in elections and is influenced by:


  • different candidates on the ballot
  • changes in enthusiasm and campaign dynamics
  • no pandemic-era voting expansion
  • shifting voter turnout in key states

So the idea that “population grew so votes must always increase” is not how turnout works. Voting-age population rising does not guarantee higher turnout percentages.



4) “Autopen / puppet” claim​


The suggestion that Biden was a “puppet” or not actually governing is:


  • not supported by evidence
  • a recurring political narrative, not a documented fact

There is no credible institutional finding (courts, congressional investigations, or executive branch records) supporting that claim.



5) Bias check of the original statement​


Key features:


  • Assertion of impossibility without evidence (“there’s no way”)
  • Speculation presented as inference of fraud
  • Use of loaded language (“puppet,” dismissive framing of voters)
  • Selective comparison of elections without accounting for context differences

👉 Overall: highly biased framing with unsupported conclusions



Bottom line​


  • The vote totals themselves are verified and certified
  • Claims that the outcome is implausible are opinions, not evidence
  • Allegations of fraud or manipulation at the scale described have not been substantiated by audits or courts
 
Grim Reaper said:

1) Was ~81 million votes for Biden real?​


Yes.


In the official certified results of the 2020 U.S. presidential election:


  • Joe Biden received about 81.3 million votes
  • Donald Trump received about 74.2 million votes

These numbers come from state-certified results, which are publicly audited, recounted in some states, and reviewed in multiple court cases.


There is no evidence accepted by courts or election audits showing that those totals were fraudulent.



2) “There’s no way that many people voted that way”​


This is a claim of disbelief, not evidence.


The 2020 election had:


  • the highest voter turnout in modern U.S. history (~66–67% of eligible voters)
  • expanded mail-in voting due to the COVID-19 pandemic
  • high polarization on both sides, driving turnout up for both candidates

High turnout alone is not evidence of fraud—it is consistent with documented conditions in 2020.



3) Why did turnout change in 2024?​


In 2024:


  • Total votes were slightly lower than 2020
  • Both major candidates received fewer votes than the 2020 Biden/Trump totals

This kind of fluctuation is normal in elections and is influenced by:


  • different candidates on the ballot
  • changes in enthusiasm and campaign dynamics
  • no pandemic-era voting expansion
  • shifting voter turnout in key states

So the idea that “population grew so votes must always increase” is not how turnout works. Voting-age population rising does not guarantee higher turnout percentages.



4) “Autopen / puppet” claim​


The suggestion that Biden was a “puppet” or not actually governing is:


  • not supported by evidence
  • a recurring political narrative, not a documented fact

There is no credible institutional finding (courts, congressional investigations, or executive branch records) supporting that claim.



5) Bias check of the original statement​


Key features:


  • Assertion of impossibility without evidence (“there’s no way”)
  • Speculation presented as inference of fraud
  • Use of loaded language (“puppet,” dismissive framing of voters)
  • Selective comparison of elections without accounting for context differences

👉 Overall: highly biased framing with unsupported conclusions



Bottom line​


  • The vote totals themselves are verified and certified
  • Claims that the outcome is implausible are opinions, not evidence
  • Allegations of fraud or manipulation at the scale described have not been substantiated by audits or courts
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Time until the MAGAts whine to Damo to forbid the use of AI that dispute MAGAt ideology: 10...9...8...
 
Dutch Uncle said:
MAGAts are like children.
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Agreed.

But Damo is the worst of the children as i often think, like with this topic, he is not just being dishonest, like many magats, and is duped like a child.

For instance I actually think Damo is gullible enough to believe that if Dems agreed to all changes but kept winning that the magats would say 'ok we trust this result' and not what we see in the video I posted above where magats demands 'stop count' when Trump is ahead but 'count every vote' when he is behind.

You have to be a child to not realize it and instead put the onus on Dems to keep capitulating until magats have 'confidence '.
 
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