Under pressure FBI Director Kash Patel claims agency has ‘evidence’ that 2020 election was stolen from Trump: ‘Stay tuned this week'

[QP!]

MAGAts only see what they want to see. Those with the power to do so can shape the narrative to fit their world view. This is easily seen by Fox News or any other group that seeks to deceive people into believing something that isn't quite true. These people, regardless of political affiliation, religion, nationality or culture, can be recognized with a habitual usage of half-truths sprinkled with outright lies.

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<p>The "big lie" is a concept suggesting that a falsehood can gain acceptance if it is repeated frequently and is grand enough that individuals cannot fathom its untruth. This idea has historical roots, notably attributed to Adolf Hitler’s writings in his 1925 manifesto, *Mein Kampf*, where he...

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The "big lie" is a concept suggesting that a falsehood can gain acceptance if it is repeated frequently and is grand enough that individuals cannot fathom its untruth. This idea has historical roots, notably attributed to Adolf Hitler’s writings in his 1925 manifesto, *Mein Kampf*, where he argued that larger lies are more believable than smaller ones. The Nazis effectively utilized this concept to scapegoat the Jewish population, ultimately justifying horrific acts during the Holocaust. In contemporary contexts, the big lie continues to manifest in political discourse, with notable examples including former President Donald Trump’s claims about the 2020 election being "stolen" and Russian President Vladimir Putin's assertions regarding Western threats prior to the invasion of Ukraine. Psychologists explain the enduring appeal of the big lie by suggesting that the human mind often prefers comforting falsehoods over inconvenient truths, leading to the acceptance of repeated statements regardless of their factual basis. This phenomenon highlights the challenges in discerning truth in environments rife with misinformation.

i see this not intending hyperbole nor partisanship.

At no point is the answer to dealing with 'irrational beliefs' to try and address them with rational actions, as an "irrationally belief" defies ration, reason and logic and thus those things cannot fix it.

The answer to irrational beliefs is to challenge them and learn, to access therapy and seek facts and data and NOT to ask others to change things to make the irrational actor comfortable.

If someone has an irrational fear of violent crime to the point they cannot leave their home and you allow them to dictate to a point where they can be comfortable leaving that home what all of society needs to do, then all of society becomes unlivable and at the same time the irrational fear is NOT fixed.

I actually believe @Damocles thinks that is the answer but that is because once again, he has been duped by magat talking points.

 

[QP!]

But none of that is in place, and almost guaranteed never will be, so who knows...

I know.

No magat would say 'ok we got all those things and i trust that everything was above board even in this Dem wave win election'.

I absolutely know as we have examples prior of how magats view these things.

 

[Damocles]

And @Damocles wants Democrats to submit to whatever would convince the idiot above to have "Confidence" in election results, arguing 'whatever it takes to make him "confident" is something the US needs to do".

It is idiotic and i do not believe Damo believes it. I believe he does want it though, knowing what that means for results.

About 70% of Democrats support the changes, about 85% of Republicans... This is a no brainer. I has nothing to do with the poster you hate, etc. It is about 80% of the population of the United States including unaffiliated voters, democrats, socialist morons, etc. support voter ID. Only the Confirmed Leftist religion doesn't want it.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

i see this not intending hyperbole nor partisanship.

At no point is the answer to dealing with 'irrational beliefs' to try and address them with rational actions, as an "irrationally belief" defies ration, reason and logic and thus those things cannot fix it.

The answer to irrational beliefs is to challenge them and learn, to access therapy and seek facts and data and NOT to ask others to change things to make the irrational actor comfortable.

If someone has an irrational fear of violent crime to the point they cannot leave their home and you allow them to dictate to a point where they can be comfortable leaving that home what all of society needs to do, then all of society becomes unlivable and at the same time the irrational fear is NOT fixed.

I actually believe @Damocles thinks that is the answer but that is because once again, he has been duped by magat talking points.

Results count. Since people can't read each other's minds, they can only go by a person's actions. People can talk all they want but, results count. It's what they do that matters most over the long haul.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

Results count. Since people can't read each other's minds, they can only go by a person's actions. People can talk all they want but, results count. It's what they do that matters most over the long haul.

People may stay engaged with strangers long enough to hear what they're saying,
but rarely long enough to see what they're doing.

This especially applies to a neo-recluse like myself who rarely leaves the house anymore.
If some nutjob is spouting idiotic things in the supermarket parking lot,
I can't confidently know if he/she (not they) is legitimately dangerous
or just somebody who likes to make a spectacle of him/her- (not their-) selves.

 

[Ichabod Stain]

It won't give him those 4 years back. If this is true, and there is evidence, I expect some actual prosecutions. Otherwise this is all just blather.

these people ran on exposing the Epstein files and no war.

and then denied the epstein files and started a war.

Kash is over.

 

[Ichabod Stain]

I believe that change would add confidence to a system that folks on both sides believe needs some shoring up.

what change?

you lost me?

the objection to the change that would produce something erodes something?

make it plain, Socrates.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

People may stay engaged with strangers long enough to hear what they're saying,
but rarely long enough to see what they're doing.

This especially applies to a neo-recluse like myself who rarely leaves the house anymore.
If some nutjob is spouting idiotic things in the supermarket parking lot,
I can't confidently know if he/she (not they) is legitimately dangerous
or just somebody who likes to make a spectacle of him/her- (not their-) selves.

Saying something takes a minute. Doing something can take a few days or weeks. Results count.

It's been 6 years since the 2020 election. Republicans and Democrats alike have scoured the election and nothing inappropriate has been found.

 

[Ichabod Stain]

kash is a lying piece of drunken cock meat.

 

[Ichabod Stain]

Saying something takes a minute. Doing something can take a few days or weeks. Results count.

It's been 6 years since the 2020 election. Republicans and Democrats alike have scoured the election and nothing inappropriate has been found.

yes it has.

judges are just fucked up and gay.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

It's been 6 years since the 2020 election. Republicans and Democrats alike have scoured the election and nothing inappropriate has been found.

That's undeniably true.
I must just be missing something about the saying/doing dynamic.
Happens more and more often these days.

 

[Ichabod Stain]

That's undeniably true.
I must just be missing something about the saying/doing dynamic.
Happens more and more often these days.

it is deniable.

judges routinely shirked duties and ignored real fraud.

accounts will be settled.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

That's undeniably true.
I must just be missing something about the saying/doing dynamic.
Happens more and more often these days.

Trump and his cronies are simply lying to distract from both the Epstein Files and the disasterous consequences of Trump's war in Iran.

Kash is scared shitless of being fired. He knows his "girlfriend" would be gone in a heartbeat if he was fired and that he'd lose all the bennies of being a top government appointee such as flying around in Kristi's fuck jet or government flights to bang his GF.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

You can't make a post on this or any other of your various boards w/out whining about MAGA. Nobody whines more about MAGA than you.
And then there's Damo's thread alone where you're at 200+ whines.

Whine away, mooselips. Whine away.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

Trump and his cronies are simply lying to distract from both the Epstein Files and the disasterous consequences of Trump's war in Iran.

Kash is scared shitless of being fired. He knows his "girlfriend" would be gone in a heartbeat if he was fired and that he'd lose all the bennies of being a top government appointee such as flying around in Kristi's fuck jet or government flights to bang his GF.

OK, I get that, but who the hell is it actually distracting?

The MAGAts are simply entertained and enthralled by Pigshit's blathering, whether they believe any of it or not,
and the sane know for certain that Pigshit is lying
because they can see his lips moving.

 

[Ichabod Stain]

OK, I get that, but who the hell is it actually distracting?

The MAGAts are simply entertained and enthralled by Pigshit's blathering, whether they believe any of it or not,
and the sane know for certain that Pigshit is lying
because they can see his lips moving.

it was never a cult of personality like you all said.

it was about real anti-globalism until trump turned out to be huge asshole.

nobody is being distracted. that is true.

trump and his ziotard overlords have failed bigly.

 

[Ichabod Stain]

I gotta find out.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

OK, I get that, but who the hell is it actually distracting?

The MAGAts are simply entertained and enthralled by Pigshit's blathering, whether they believe any of it or not,
and the sane know for certain that Pigshit is lying
because they can see his lips moving.

The MAGAts believe it as shown on JPP daily. Bad news for them is that Trump is shedding supporters with his antics. Kash sees this and is worried about his job.

 

[Ichabod Stain]

The MAGAts believe it as shown on JPP daily. Bad news for them is that Trump is shedding supporters with his antics. Kash sees this and is worried about his job.

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apparently you're not noticing trump being called a ball licking ziotard fool.

 

[Damocles]

what change?

you lost me?

the objection to the change that would produce something erodes something?

make it plain, Socrates.

He @mentioned me to try to dig on me for stating that people in the US want some voter ID laws, it's a side conversation and your confusion is because it had little to do with the thread topic. If you read a bit further I think you would have been able to figure it out when it got to the poll numbers.

Basically he wanted to call the guy he was quoting an "idiot" and use him as an excuse to explain how his leftist religious faith requires him to object to any laws that might give US Citizens some secular faith in the voting process.