Trumps very bad, no good November
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Says the ones that automatically believed the false claims of a drunken slut trying to destroy an honorable man's career.
evince
Truthmatters
and every republican knows this and supported him anyway
if they didn't know then they willingly voted without knowing what they were voting for because they insisted on watching propaganda instead of news
that is evil
It describes what you are. Why are you so ashamed of what you did and what you believed?
WTF?
if it was about a Trump tower type dealing Moscow ( as has been established) then that's what it was.
It could have been about space aliens as well?
no shit. a business deal,,, and??
Superfreak
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Or just pointing out your blatant hypocrisy.
Mason Michaels
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We on here are all political and private citizens.Same as Obama.
Deflection from Trump's sins,to a private citizen don't fly.
Mason Michaels
Verified User
No hypocrisy,just the facts.
Superfreak
Verified User
The fact that you are a hypocrite.
Mason Michaels
Verified User
no it's not. JFC the dezinformatsiya on this board rivals anything the Kremlin puts out.
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What really happened with the GOP platform and Russia
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-what-really-happened-with-the-gop-platform-and-russia
the original draft of the platform — ....
had strong language on Russia, and in particular on Russian aggression in Ukraine.
Warning of "a resurgent Russia occupying parts of Ukraine and threatening neighbors from the Baltic to the Caucasus," the platform vowed to increase U.S. pressure on a "reckless" Russia.
It would be hard to call that a pro-Putin statement. Every word of it stayed in the final platform.
When the platform committee met before the GOP convention in Cleveland, one delegate out of the 100 on the committee — a Texas political activist named Diana Denman — proposed an amendment. Denman, who came to the convention as a Ted Cruz delegate but later switched her support to Trump, was interested because she had traveled to Ukraine as an international election observer in 1998 and has ever since "kept an eye on the emerging democracies," she told me in a conversation last March.
Denman's amendment praised the Ukrainian people and said they deserved the greatest U.S. assistance.
"We therefore support maintaining (and, if warranted, increasing) sanctions against Russia until Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity are fully restored," Denman's proposed amendment read. "We also support providing lethal defensive weapons to Ukraine's armed forces and greater coordination with NATO on defense planning. Simultaneously, we call for increased financial aid for Ukraine, as well as greater assistance in the economic and humanitarian spheres, including government reform and anti-corruption."
Denman's amendment also included an introductory paragraph filled with a lot of generic rhetoric. When she proposed the amendment, a Trump national security aide named J.D. Gordon, who was in the room with the platform committee, wanted to edit it.
According to Denman, Gordon got on the phone, saying he was calling "New York" to discuss possible changes.
At the behest of the Trump campaign, the platform committee took out the throat-clearing introduction and changed Denman's reference from "lethal defensive weapons" for Ukraine to a pledge to provide "appropriate assistance to the armed forces of Ukraine." They left intact Denman's language on NATO, and on continued and possibly tougher sanctions on Russia.
The final, Trump-approved passage read: "We support maintaining and, if warranted, increasing sanctions, together with our allies, against Russia unless and until Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity are fully restored. We also support providing appropriate assistance to the armed forces of Ukraine and greater coordination with NATO defense planning." That was the amendment the committee approved.
In the end, nothing was taken out of the party's original draft platform on Russia. At Denman's behest, and with Trump's approval, the platform was made tougher with language pledging ongoing and possibly increased sanctions. It was also made tougher with Denman's reference to "NATO defense planning," which had not been in the original draft.
Finally, Denman's lethal aid suggestion was changed to "appropriate assistance to the armed forces" — a change that put the specific promise of U.S. aid to Ukraine's armed forces in the platform where it had not been originally.
"The platform ended up tougher than it started, compared from the beginning to the end," Denman told me, although she added she still believes her lethal aid provision should have been included in the final document.
So how did the "Trump weakened the GOP platform" meme get started?
Seizing on the Trump campaign's entirely defensible change of Denman's "lethal defensive weapons" to "appropriate assistance to the armed forces" — neither of which was in the original GOP draft platform — some Democrats, Republican NeverTrumpers, and their allies in the press portrayed the platform meeting in Cleveland as Donald Trump selling out the GOP to Putin.
They were helped in their efforts by a July 18, 2016, story in the Washington Post with the headline, "Trump campaign guts GOP's anti-Russia stance on Ukraine" — a blatantly false description of events.
The narrative spread. "The same month that Trump denied Putin's role in Ukraine, his team weakened the party platform on Ukraine," Democratic Rep. Andre Carson said during a House Intelligence Committee hearing in March.
Are you Republicans OK with the above?
The Washington Examiner ha ha Ha ha ha