Thank you for your admission, CNN. Of course, nobody buys that bullshit about inequality.
Anyone with firing neurons is aware the wealth gap is worse than during the Gilded Age. Trump's tax-cut made it worse. This is the facts, not BS.
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Trump's economy is booming, but so is inequality
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Anyone with firing neurons is aware the wealth gap is worse than during the Gilded Age. Trump's tax-cut made it worse. This is the facts, not BS.
Nobody gives a shit about your stupid gaps, you fucking hypocrite.Anyone with firing neurons is aware the wealth gap is worse than during the Gilded Age. Trump's tax-cut made it worse. This is the facts, not BS.Of course Trump's economy is just a continuation of Obamas. Trump did nothing to the economy but add 2 trillion to the debt. You revealed too much about your ignorance of the facts.
The day you Socialists become truly socialistic is the day we believe you. Of course, it's also the day we burn your party to the ground and restore the true Democratic party.
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This is a reminder to them who have their body and soul up Putin's puppet tRump's STD GOPer hide hole. This is when it comes to the economy of America in particular, the facts instead of fiction speaks for itself. As President Obama in 2007 mentioning he knew what he was getting into to become one of America's greatest POTUS. This includes the majority and U.S. Constitutional law too at standing with President Obama and continues to do so, and with God's blessings I believe and you made it President Obama:
On the economy, Obama owns Trump
Former President Barack Obama addressing a town hall of young leaders from across Europe at an Obama Foundation event in Berlin, Germany, in April.
Under which president did the stock market rise more during the first 27 months of his presidency? Donald J. Trump or Barack H. Obama? Under which did the unemployment rate decline more? How about GDP growth per president?
If it wasn’t for obnoxious braggadocio of the current incumbent — his incessant pitiful compulsion to exaggerate his own accomplishments and disparage those of all others (but most especially those of his immediate predecessor) — I would say the idea that economic indices reflect the wisdom and skill of the incumbent president is dumb. But if those are measures the self-glorifying Trump wants to use, let’s go there and review some actual, you know, facts.
On January 20, 2017, the day Trump took office, the Dow Jones industrial average was at 19,827. It’s had a good run during his first two plus years, and it closed Friday at 25,942. That’s an impressive gain of 30.8 percent, but let’s not be stingy. Let’s call it 31 percent. (Note: as of publication of this story Monday morning, the Dow was down more than 600 points, or 2.4 percent.)
Some find Trump’s policies despicable, racist, even (or perhaps especially) planet-threatening. But some argue that the good economy during Trump’s first two-plus years is a powerful offset against those factors. The movement of the Dow is not the best measure of economic performance, nor certainly of the overall cost/benefit analysis of his presidency. GDP growth would be better and, in terms of impact on ordinary Americans, unemployment would be better. And those have done well under Trump, too. But the Dow is very specific and often celebrated by Trump praisers."
https://www.minnpost.com/eric-black-ink/2019/05/on-the-economy-obama-owns-trump/
On the economy, Obama owns Trump
Former President Barack Obama addressing a town hall of young leaders from across Europe at an Obama Foundation event in Berlin, Germany, in April.
Under which president did the stock market rise more during the first 27 months of his presidency? Donald J. Trump or Barack H. Obama? Under which did the unemployment rate decline more? How about GDP growth per president?
If it wasn’t for obnoxious braggadocio of the current incumbent — his incessant pitiful compulsion to exaggerate his own accomplishments and disparage those of all others (but most especially those of his immediate predecessor) — I would say the idea that economic indices reflect the wisdom and skill of the incumbent president is dumb. But if those are measures the self-glorifying Trump wants to use, let’s go there and review some actual, you know, facts.
On January 20, 2017, the day Trump took office, the Dow Jones industrial average was at 19,827. It’s had a good run during his first two plus years, and it closed Friday at 25,942. That’s an impressive gain of 30.8 percent, but let’s not be stingy. Let’s call it 31 percent. (Note: as of publication of this story Monday morning, the Dow was down more than 600 points, or 2.4 percent.)
Some find Trump’s policies despicable, racist, even (or perhaps especially) planet-threatening. But some argue that the good economy during Trump’s first two-plus years is a powerful offset against those factors. The movement of the Dow is not the best measure of economic performance, nor certainly of the overall cost/benefit analysis of his presidency. GDP growth would be better and, in terms of impact on ordinary Americans, unemployment would be better. And those have done well under Trump, too. But the Dow is very specific and often celebrated by Trump praisers."
https://www.minnpost.com/eric-black-ink/2019/05/on-the-economy-obama-owns-trump/
Never really did.
So you did support Bush. You said before you didn't, now you're hedging that and saying you didn't really support him.
So that's a goalpost shift.
What didn't you really support? The tax cuts? No, you supported those. The deregulation? No, you supported that. The Iraq War? No, you supported that too. Bans on gay marriage? No, you support that. So...what were these things of Bush that didn't make you really support him, just somewhat support him?
Indeed.Nobody gives a shit about your stupid gaps, you fucking hypocrite.
The day you Socialists become truly socialistic is the day we believe you. Of course, it's also the day we burn your party to the ground and restore the true Democratic party.
His application of price controls.
How is that a liberal thing? Nixon put in price controls. He was no liberal. So...basically...you love Bush except for the fact that everything he did had negative consequences, and therefore, you bear no accountability or responsibility for it.
What a fucking cop-out.
he creation of the TSA.
Which is what you all wanted. YOU wanted the TSA, remember? You're the ones who said we had to have it, and have all those X-Ray and scanner machines, to keep us safe from terrorists while we fly.
I'm old enough to remember your positions on these things, even though you're trying to retcon.
His ignoring the 2nd, 4th, and 5th amendments of the Constitution.
So this means nothing because it's deliberately vague and ambiguous so as to allow you wiggle room to operate within the parameters, because your understanding and knowledge is really barely skin deep.
How did Bush "ignore" the 2nd Amendment? He's the one who didn't renew the Assault Weapons Ban.
You're the ones who demanded we have the Patriot Act and FISA courts, and you're the ones who were perfectly OK with Gitmo, torture, and extraordinary renditions. You personally defended those things on this board multiple times.
Who are you trying to fool?
Overregulation.
Conservative strategy: lie big, lie often.
Bush overregulated?
Not according to Bush: “The Presidents Working Group’s March policy statement acknowledged that turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007.”
Price controls.
What price controls? What are you talking about?
You mean these? That was during Nixon, and everyone you support today supported them back then.
The creation of the TSA.
You're the ones who wanted the TSA. You're the ones who wanted DHS. You're the ones who wanted FISA.
Now you're trying to pretend you didn't want any of this, and you're not convincing.
Lie.
You didn't hit any of the goals you set for yourself in December 2017.
You didn't grow wages.
You didn't reduce the deficit.
You didn't increase revenues.
You didn't grow the market.
You didn't hit 3% growth.
That's why Republicans didn't want to talk about their tax cut in 2018 during the election; it is a political loser because it didn't deliver on the lofty promises made of it.
As far as I know the Russians never cut their taxes. Perhaps you have researched this?
Sophistry.
That's all you got now.
Sophistry.
That's your defense of your beliefs and positions; sophistry.
Lie. I never predicted anything about the Russian economy or it's tax structure.
No, you made predictions of our economy and tax structure, which was changed by the Russia Tax Cut the GOP passed in 2017.
The Tax Cut that didn't deliver on a single promise made of it, that has reduced you to REPETITION FALLACY on this thread.
Nobody gives a shit about your stupid gaps, you fucking hypocrite.
The day you Socialists become truly socialistic is the day we believe you. Of course, it's also the day we burn your party to the ground and restore the true Democratic party.
Nobody? you rightys are such assholes presuming to talk for everyone. The wealthy are worried about it. Many wealthy are saying they should be taxed more. They recognize that bigly wealth gaps are settled with violence and rapid redistribution.
Amrica is turning from oligopoly to a plutocracy. But how would you know? Fox may have not covered it.
Lie.
Then you must be schizo or mentally ill; which would explain quite a lot.
Incomplete data.
How can it be incomplete data when they are the actual statements from Treasury?
Show your work.
Argument by repetition. You are chanting.
This from the guy whose sole response of "lie" has been repeated as your argument over 3 dozen times this single thread.
LOL.
Correct. I didn't. Trump did though
Treasury's statements show less revenue collected in 2018 vs. 2017.
You have yet to post actual Treasury statements that show otherwise.
Waiting for those links, which you said you posted but never did because you're a liar.
Correct. I didn't. I hit 6% in 2018. Business is good.
Bullshit.
I don't believe you own a business.
You're just pretending for the sake of your message board character.
Inversion fallacy.
That's right. That's what I said.
Lie.
Lie.
REPETITION FALLACY.
It is not an explanation, but it is an argument.
How is it an argument? Explain.
Oh right, you won't. You'll just repeat "lie", because you're broken.
I broke you.
Lie.
You didn't post a single link to Treasury to support your claim that the tax cuts generated more revenue in 2018 than 2017.
I, though, have posted a link to Treasury that supports my claim that the tax cuts generated less revenue in 2018 than 2017.
You chose to reject that link because it ruined your argument and made you look stupid.