Trump - the jobs president

Except he said he was providing current numbers. You are agreeing with me that he couldn't have been which is why I questioned his alleged numbers.

Under Biden there were several months at 3.4 and 3.5%. Do you deny that? You have already agreed that 4.4 is more than 25% higher than what unemployment was under Biden. My statement was factually true.

In fact the typical month for Biden was to see unemployment under 3.8% since 23 of the 48 months of Biden's presidency was 3.8% or less and 20 of the 48 months were 3.7% or less.
I know you ae certain that you are the ssmarrtest guy on JPP and I am sure QPeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee will come along and contest that but, anything under 5% ia statistically full employment. Your gnashing of teeth over brandon vs. Trump is a moot point.
 
Except he said he was providing current numbers. You are agreeing with me that he couldn't have been which is why I questioned his alleged numbers.

Under Biden there were several months at 3.4 and 3.5%. Do you deny that? You have already agreed that 4.4 is more than 25% higher than what unemployment was under Biden. My statement was factually true.

In fact the typical month for Biden was to see unemployment under 3.8% since 23 of the 48 months of Biden's presidency was 3.8% or less and 20 of the 48 months were 3.7% or less.

Your retort is factually wrong on nearly every count. It's a classic case of cherry-picking the absolute bottom of a recovering labor market while ignoring averages, endings, and basic math.

First, those "several months at 3.4% and 3.5%"?

Yes, they happened, but only after unemployment had already plunged from the 6.7% braindead Biden inherited in January 2021.

The rate was above 6% for his first four months and didn't dip below 4% until December 2021.

Braindead Biden's full 48-month average was 4.1%, and he ended his term at 4.1–4.2% in late 2024/early 2025.

Comparing today's rate to the fleeting pandemic-recovery lows is like bragging your diet worked because you hit your goal weight for two weeks in 2023 while ignoring the fact that you started obese and ended overweight.

Third, your "typical month" stat is pure fiction. You claim 23 of 48 months ≤3.8% and 20 ≤3.7%. Wrong. Actual BLS data shows only about 30 months total below 4.0%, and far fewer at your thresholds:
  • Months ≤3.8%: 19 (mostly clustered in 2022–2023)
  • Months ≤3.7%: 15
The majority of braindead Biden's term saw rates at or above 3.9%—including the entire first year above 5% and the final year drifting 4.0–4.2%.

"Typical" under braindead Biden was closer to 4.1% than your fantasy 3.7%. The last-reported current rate isn't even 4.4%. The last official BLS figure is 4.3% for August 2025.

Alternative "functional" unemployment measures (including underemployed or low-earners) have been cited at 24–25%, but these are not the standard rate and were not used under braindead Biden for comparison.

The official rate remains the benchmark, and it is not 25% higher now. The labor market has softened but stays historically low, with no evidence of a sharp spike to support a 25% claim.

Strip out that shutdown noise, and the underlying rate is barely budging from braindead Biden's exit level.

The labor market cooled slightly, yes, but it's still historically strong, not some 25% catastrophe built on made-up numbers and selective lows.

Your statement wasn't "factually true." It was factually dishonest.
 
Gee dumb fuck,...I wonder if that just might be from locking everything down during Covid? Do you think? :unsure: Could that be it,....think real hard now.

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Lefties just LOVE to obscure the truth. Can't be honest to save their own ass.
Hay ASSHOLE COVID was in 2021 after Trump left office ,
And you wouldn't loose over 2.7 MILLION jobs in less then a year, well Trump may be able to pull that one off if he tried.
YOU FUCKING MORON.
 
Hay ASSHOLE COVID was in 2021 after Trump left office , And you wouldn't loose over 2.7 MILLION jobs in less then a year, well Trump may be able to pull that one off if he tried. YOU FUCKING MORON.

  • The pandemic hit in March 2020. Trump literally declared a national emergency while in office. After Trump left office?
  • "2.7 million jobs" → Cute number. The real drop was over 20 million in two months. Economy added back 22 million since then, but sure, keep coping.
 
I laughed at your false statement.
An anonymous source, speaking under condition of anonymity?

That was a question. Were you in detention the day your class learned about punctuation marks?

And you still haven't produced the names of those "multiple sources". Why not?
 
Your retort is factually wrong on nearly every count. It's a classic case of cherry-picking the absolute bottom of a recovering labor market while ignoring averages, endings, and basic math.

First, those "several months at 3.4% and 3.5%"?

Yes, they happened, but only after unemployment had already plunged from the 6.7% braindead Biden inherited in January 2021.

The rate was above 6% for his first four months and didn't dip below 4% until December 2021.

Braindead Biden's full 48-month average was 4.1%, and he ended his term at 4.1–4.2% in late 2024/early 2025.

Comparing today's rate to the fleeting pandemic-recovery lows is like bragging your diet worked because you hit your goal weight for two weeks in 2023 while ignoring the fact that you started obese and ended overweight.

Third, your "typical month" stat is pure fiction. You claim 23 of 48 months ≤3.8% and 20 ≤3.7%. Wrong. Actual BLS data shows only about 30 months total below 4.0%, and far fewer at your thresholds:
  • Months ≤3.8%: 19 (mostly clustered in 2022–2023)
  • Months ≤3.7%: 15
I guess we will have to show your lies or at least prove you can't count.

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2022 - 11 months 3.8 or less
2023 - 11 months 3.8 or less
2024 - 1 month 3.8 or less.

2022 - 10 months 3.7 or less
2023 - 9 months 3.7 or less
2024 - 1 month 3.7 or less.

The majority of braindead Biden's term saw rates at or above 3.9%—including the entire first year above 5% and the final year drifting 4.0–4.2%.

"Typical" under braindead Biden was closer to 4.1% than your fantasy 3.7%. The last-reported current rate isn't even 4.4%. The last official BLS figure is 4.3% for August 2025.

Alternative "functional" unemployment measures (including underemployed or low-earners) have been cited at 24–25%, but these are not the standard rate and were not used under braindead Biden for comparison.

The official rate remains the benchmark, and it is not 25% higher now. The labor market has softened but stays historically low, with no evidence of a sharp spike to support a 25% claim.

Strip out that shutdown noise, and the underlying rate is barely budging from braindead Biden's exit level.

The labor market cooled slightly, yes, but it's still historically strong, not some 25% catastrophe built on made-up numbers and selective lows.

Your statement wasn't "factually true." It was factually dishonest.
Fleeting? I didn't realize that 23 months was a fleeting time since it is almost 2 full years.?

The median unemployment under Biden was 3.8%.
 
I guess we will have to show your lies or at least prove you can't count.

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2022 - 11 months 3.8 or less
2023 - 11 months 3.8 or less
2024 - 1 month 3.8 or less.

2022 - 10 months 3.7 or less
2023 - 9 months 3.7 or less
2024 - 1 month 3.7 or less.


Fleeting? I didn't realize that 23 months was a fleeting time since it is almost 2 full years.?

The median unemployment under Biden was 3.8%.


Straight-up mistake on my part with the 2024 counts. You're right.
 
  • The pandemic hit in March 2020. Trump literally declared a national emergency while in office. After Trump left office?
  • "2.7 million jobs" → Cute number. The real drop was over 20 million in two months. Economy added back 22 million since then, but sure, keep coping.
Sorry I had the dates wrong , and according to you 2.7 million is a '" cute " number.
And you are saying it was 20 million in just two months, got a link for that I didn't think TRUMP did that bad.
But 2.7 million less people working over 4 years is bad.
Well here

The statistics for the entirety of Donald Trump’s time in office are nearly all compiled. As we did for his predecessor four years ago, we present a final look at the numbers.

  • The economy lost 2.7 million jobs. The unemployment rate increased by 1.7 percentage points to 6.4%.
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Sorry I had the dates wrong , and according to you 2.7 million is a '" cute " number.And you are saying it was 20 million in just two months, got a link for that I didn't think TRUMP did that bad.


"Trump" didn't cause the job losses. Closing the economy down was a collective action, and as I said at the time, a bad idea. I also criticized him for not using his "bully pulpit to push back against the panic.
 

President Donald Trump’s plan to double the size of the ICE workforce has met a foe more powerful than any activist group. It is decimating new recruits at the agency’s training academy in Georgia. It is the ICE personal-fitness test.

More than a third have failed so far, four officials told me, impeding the agency’s plan to hire, train, and deploy 10,000 deportation officers by January. To pass, recruits must do 15 push-ups and 32 sit-ups, and run 1.5 miles in 14 minutes.

“It’s pathetic,” one career ICE official told me, adding that before now, a typical class of 40 recruits had only a couple of candidates fail, because the screening process was more rigorous.
If you can't do 15 push-ups, or 32 sit-ups, and you can't run 1.5 miles in 14 minutes, you don't belong in ANY law enforcement role.

The fact that YOU think this is hard just shows how soft you are.
 
And according to this more people get jobs under DEM Presidents then Republican Presidents and Trump is the ONLY one on this chart that LOST jobs, Trump had less people working when he left office then when he took office.

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I see you're still trying to blame the economic depression the Democrats started on Trump. Random numbers aren't data, Tball.
 
Hay ASSHOLE COVID was in 2021 after Trump left office ,
2019 is not 2021, Tball.
And you wouldn't loose over 2.7 MILLION jobs in less then a year, well Trump may be able to pull that one off if he tried.
YOU FUCKING MORON.
The DEMOCRATS caused the Covid Hoax, Tball. The DEMOCRATS caused the resulting economic depression, which lasted five years before Trump finally ended it.
 
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