Trump or DeSantis?

You did not say it.

You see him as old and demented because Trump and his crew told you to see him that way. (He is old, Trump is almost as old) He is not demented, he is the same old Joe Biden the gaffer.

Good then it's irrelevant

Unlike you finding need people to tell me what I see. You have to be a rabid leftist not to see the clear signs. Again Bill Maher is trying to warn you people but you actively resist listening. Sad.
 
Ok, let's start with the basics, what does "facism" mean to you?

There's the first problem it isn't about what it means to me it's about what fascism is


Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.
 
"a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy."

Okay, it seems we can agree on this.

Now did DeSantis use the State of Florida's laws and structure to punish Disney for disagreeing with his politics? Is that not autocracy? Is that not forcible suppression of opposition?

Did DeSantis not pass laws making it illegal for teachers to discuss certain topics in schools? Is that not centralized autocracy? attempted forced belief in a natural social hierarchy? Subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation? Is that not strong regimentation of society?
 
As a person who does not like authoritarians for President of the United States, and believes that the free market should be left alone when possible, I really hope the Republicans nominate Trump. Biden can beat Trump nine times out of 10 but I think DeSantis would likely beat Biden.

Yeah. He's been trying constantly to "outtrump" trump. He might be the nominee. But.. after testemony of all the refugees he bilked into going to Martha's Vinyard? There might be a problem there. Republicans live on that island. They're fucking rich as shit. I'm not sure that was the best stunt to pull.
 
"a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy."

Okay, it seems we can agree on this.

Now did DeSantis use the State of Florida's laws and structure to punish Disney for disagreeing with his politics? Is that not autocracy? Is that not forcible suppression of opposition?

Did DeSantis not pass laws making it illegal for teachers to discuss certain topics in schools? Is that not centralized autocracy? attempted forced belief in a natural social hierarchy? Subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation? Is that not strong regimentation of society?

No more more or less than forcing people to take a stab for a disease with a 98% recovery rate. No more or less than censoring opposing points of view and labeling them "misinformation". No more or less than the chief executive giving a propaganda speech that declared those who disagree with threats to democracy.
 
No more more or less than forcing people to take a stab for a disease with a 98% recovery rate. No more or less than censoring opposing points of view and labeling them "misinformation". No more or less than the chief executive giving a propaganda speech that declared those who disagree with threats to democracy.

So you wont answer?

FORCING A JAB WOULD BE FACISM, Who forced anyone to get a jab? (Not the government)

CENSORING POINTS OF VIEW IS FACISM. Who censored points of view or labeled them misinformation? (not the government)

Giving a speech is not facism. Giving a speech is not a government action.
 
So you wont answer?

Who forced anyone to get a jab? (Not the government)

Who censored points of view or labeled them misinformation? (not the government)

Giving a speech is not a government action.

I did answer. You don't like it, that's not my fault.

Yes the govt did. The military and first responders. Govt mandates shut down businesses and forced people through penalties to get stabbed.

The govt in coordination with the tech industry

Of course it is when the president speaks it and uses the FBI and DOJ to execute terror in American citizens. Had trump given that speech youd still be squealing about it. Look if you can't see your own zits in this, which his the case for most of you people, then you're wasting my time.
 
I did answer. You don't like it, that's not my fault.

Yes the govt did. The military and first responders. Govt mandates shut down businesses and forced people through penalties to get stabbed.

The govt in coordination with the tech industry

Of course it is when the president speaks it and uses the FBI and DOJ to execute terro in American citizens. Look if you can't see your own zits in this, which his the case for most of you people, then you're wasting my time.

No you simply compared the instances of Facism I listed that DeSantis is responsible for with examples you claim were done by the other side.

Setting conditions of employment, BY THE EMPLOYER, is not FORCE, you are silly.
The Government did not coordinate with the Tech industry on disinformation, wild allegation with 0 evidence.
Sorry, a speech is not FACISM. It might be FACIST in nature or calling for FACISM, but it aint FACISM! Now give me an example of the speech you are claiming is FASCIST?
 
No you simply compared the instances of Facism I listed that DeSantis is responsible for with examples you claim were done by the other side.

Setting conditions of employment, BY THE EMPLOYER, is not FORCE, you are silly.
The Government did not coordinate with the Tech industry on disinformation, wild allegation with 0 evidence.
Sorry, a speech is not FACISM. It might be FACIST in nature or calling for FACISM, but it aint FACISM! Now give me an example of the speech you are claiming is FASCIST?

Having what you think is a good reason to be a fascist doesn't mean, you arent a fascist. This is precisely the problem when talking to concrete thinking leftists.
 
Having what you think is a good reason to be a fascist doesn't mean, you arent a fascist. This is precisely the problem when talking to concrete thinking leftists.

What did I say was a good reason to be a fascist? I’m saying what you claim is fascism is not fascism, but the things I pointed out about DeSantis ARE fascism.

You support fascism, while claiming fascism in others where it does not exist.
 
What did I say was a good reason to be a fascist? I’m saying what you claim is fascism is not fascism, but the things I pointed out about DeSantis ARE fascism.

You support fascism, while claiming fascism in others where it does not exist.

And I showed you where leftists a ARE fascists and now you're having a hissy fit. I get it, mirrors don't lie. You hate that. You should go listen to Bill Maher and try to heed what's yes telling you people but you're too stubborn and that will be your downfall.
 
And I showed you where leftists a ARE fascists and now you're having a hissy fit. I get it, mirrors don't lie. You hate that. You should go listen to Bill Maher and try to heed what's yes telling you people but you're too stubborn and that will be your downfall.

HOw are those things fascist? THey are not even true, but even if they were they are not fascist. Are you dumb or just unwilling to discuss reality? Why would I listen to a comedian about fascism?

Come on... explain how the things you listed are true, then if so how are they fascism?
 
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