That's good to hear. Hope he continues to do well. It's extremely unusual to live that long with liver cancer.
Trump Counties Twice as Likely to Die from COVIC
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That's good to hear. Hope he continues to do well. It's extremely unusual to live that long with liver cancer.
ExpressLane
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Yep he is on his third chemo study from MD Anderson. I wrote his son a recommendation letter for med school I was hoping his dad lived long enough to see him graduate. His son just graduated and his dad still looks good. And actually his dad looks good and is still working.
I'm so happy for them. It's a horrible disease. Wish him well and more years to come.
Agreed. While I still expect the Republicans to retake the House, how strongly and how close the elections (wins or losses) will certainly be affected by COVID deaths, anti-vaxxers and states that make it difficult for older people to vote by mail.
A million Americans weren't so lucky. Sure, that's only 0.3% of the total population...but it's still a million needless deaths and probably higher. Same for Long COVID although it could take a few years to assemble all the data.
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-22-105666
How many people in the U.S. have developed "long COVID"?
It could be in the range of 7.7–23 million, some estimates say.
We discuss what is and isn't known about long COVID—new, returning, or ongoing health problems 4 or more weeks after an initial case of COVID-19. For example, some people with the condition experience chronic fatigue and have to stop working, which can affect their income and health insurance. But other economic effects are still unclear.
The federal government is taking steps to fund more research and help affected people. We describe challenges it could encounter and provide questions for policymakers to consider.
That new person, Mina, made some posts a while back about how to accurately determine the number of deaths by researching "excess deaths."
"HURRY!! HURRY!! POST ANYTHING TO DISTRACT FROM THE PRES.MORON CATASTROPHE!!" 
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
so, what does 2 times "not very likely" look like when compared to Cuomo shooting old people in barrel shaped nursing homes......
FreeSpeech1789
Banned
The best thing about Covid is that it killed millions upon millions of blue city leftist swine, we should all take a lesson from Covid and continue to slaughter Democrats in mass.
That's a good method.
Still, there will be more accurate data a few years from now. It's the anti-vaxx idiots who are disputing the numbers so much. They're all fucking morons so I don't worry about it too much.
You're an idiot in many respects including your inability to do math.
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
You're boring. Onto the ignore list you go, loser.
If they feel the need to dispute numbers, there are hundreds of countries whose COVID data is doubtful. Most of them are poorer countries that just don't have the resources to collect accurate data. Others outright fudge it to look better -- like China and Russia, for instance. According to Worldometer, there have been 6.3M deaths so far from COVID. My feeling is that it's far higher.
Agreed on all points. I think the polls are being conservative. The oddity is that the "conservatives" AKA Trump cocksuckers AKA Cultists drinking from the tap disbelieve all polls and only trust the information they are given from those they like such as Pedo Don, Tucker, Sean, etc.
ExpressLane
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He is a very good man. His daughter is a Veterinarian and his son now is an Orthopedic resident so he has educated his kids at least . I am very glad for him to see that at least. Interestingly his daughter her husband my friend and his wife all caught COVID at the same time. . My friend did the best out of the 4 of them. Odd HMHO. Thanks for the well wishes.
Well, the COVID data is not a poll; it is actual data not based on someone's opinion of something. The fact that they dispute *that* is part of why they have no credibility with everyone else.
No problem. Is everyone doing okay now?
I think that's such a great method, since it doesn't rely on state officials to make judgment calls about whether or not to count something as a COVID death in a case where it may have been a complicating factor but not necessarily a determinative one. Also, because states have had VASTLY different rates of testing, states with higher testing rates were more likely to declare a given death a COVID death, which further skews data from one state to another (and from one time to another..... like a COVID death was less likely to be recognized in early 2020, before we had widespread testing, than today).
With excess death data, none of that matters. It's just a question of counting bodies, regardless of cause of death, and then comparing the rate to the background rate.
Good points. It also works for other nations as well, assuming of course that their background rate of death is accurate to begin with. Even if it's not, though, you still have some data showing that during the pandemic, the death rate rose by __% or ___ number of deaths above the average.
Exactly. With very poor nations, the data is too lousy to mean anything, since they were never counting deaths accurately, anyway. Like in central Africa, people can be born, live, and die out in rural villages without ever showing up in any official stats. But among the top few dozen countries, the governments do a good job tracking death counts, and so you can compare excess death rates during the pandemic.
Click here:
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/...-baseline?country=PER~MEX~IRN~USA~ISR~BOL~ECU
You can see the huge difference in cumulative excess death between, say, Peru (76%) and Greenland (-7%). The US is pretty bad, at 17%, which is worse than nearly any other rich country. But there are places within the US, like Massachusetts, that are in line with Western Europe... it's just that the train-wreck states, like Arizona, Mississippi, and Texas, really screw up the averages.