Trump calls removal of Confederate monuments 'so foolish'

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Jesus was very serious. If I were deranged, I think that would make me a Confederate, or an apologist, like you.

so r u american?

the south was part of america from the start before the civil war and now it is again for more than a century

the war is way over

u a follower of jesus?

did he say hate the southerners?

did he say never forget never forgive hate forever?

u know the romans had slaves

whats next, tear down the ruins in italy and smash the statues?

 

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I hate Trump, but, I've always felt that his NY background was a yuge plus, that might help him avoid the baggage of having a southern heritage.

Being stupid was the defining character trait of the CSA in 1861.

they didnt have a chance but maybe they felt they didnt have a choice

do u think some1 in todays us army can say i wont fight because i think Trump is racist and get away with it?

 

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If only the content of his mind was worth speaking about.

i felt the same way about Hilldog

looks like i had more company than u

 

[Airstrip One]

Since you're a CW authority, maybe you can answer something that's puzzled me as a West Virginian lol.

WV was a 'tweener' state in the sense people here fought for one side or the other. But there was no slavery here at the time---worth mentioning anyway. So why would a poor hick from Logan county care about slavery one way or another?

They were probably 500 miles from the nearest plantation. They had small farms eched out of the rugged terrain and hunted deer for meat.

But many of them fought for the south. Why?

WV has proven ever since 1865, that while it's leaders wanted to remain in America, that it is culturally just another southern state. That's why it elected Byrd over Revercomb in 1958, and kept him around for another half century.

 

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More than half a century after World War II, the German authorities have acknowledged that war disability pensions are still being paid to members of Waffen-SS units and even to war criminals.
But in a statement prompted by criticism from the American Jewish Congress, Friedrich Bohl, the head of Chancellor Helmut Kohl's office, said on Wednesday that the Government and Parliament were seeking ''possible ways to exclude war criminals from drawing war-victim pensions.''

At the same time, he defended Germany's record in paying compensation to Jewish and non-Jewish victims of Nazi persecution, saying Bonn had paid almost $60 billion to Holocaust survivors.

The German Government first acknowledged that SS veterans were on the pension rolls early this year. The current controversy was set off by American newspaper advertisements on Wednesday in which the American Jewish Congress criticized Germany for showing more sympathy toward war criminals than toward their victims in Eastern and Central Europe.

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/05/10/world/germany-defends-pensions-for-ss-veterans.html?mcubz=0

did u even read what i gave you which is actual germans with veteran ancestors and family members, or is it easier to swallow what ever the failing nyt fed u?

 

[Airstrip One]

they didnt have a chance but maybe they felt they didnt have a choice

do u think some1 in todays us army can say i wont fight because i think Trump is racist and get away with it?

How did that work for the troops who pulled that under Obama? It's not like there was a strong opposition to secession in the south, so, there weren't going to be patriots wanting to defy orders.

 

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why would i want to look at it? y would u?

if it wasnt 4 SJWs making them more famous than they deserve i doubt they could fill a college ball park

 

[Darth Omar]

WV has proven ever since 1865, that while it's leaders wanted to remain in America, that it is culturally just another southern state. That's why it elected Byrd over Revercomb in 1958, and kept him around for another half century.

They would fight and die over an institution that they had no interest in?

 

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How did that work for the troops who pulled that under Obama?

didnt know any did

when was that?

 

[Airstrip One]

so r u american?

the south was part of america from the start before the civil war and now it is again for more than a century

the war is way over

u a follower of jesus?

did he say hate the southerners?

did he say never forget never forgive hate forever?

u know the romans had slaves

whats next, tear down the ruins in italy and smash the statues?

Jesus said not to follow hypocrites, or to waste our time with those who will not hear the truth. The south was part of America before secession, but it is only part of America today by virtue of conquest.

 

[Airstrip One]

didnt know any did

when was that?

There was an Army lieutenant colonel.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/36478557/ns/us_news-life/t/army-officer-wont-accept-obama-chief/

 

[christiefan915]

did u even read what i gave you which is actual germans with veteran ancestors and family members, or is it easier to swallow what ever the failing nyt fed u?

Yeah, I read your link. Did you read this: The German Government first acknowledged that SS veterans were on the pension rolls early this year.

Hint: it means the more popular than ever NYT didn't make it up.

 

[Phantasmal]

Since you're a CW authority, maybe you can answer something that's puzzled me as a West Virginian lol.

WV was a 'tweener' state in the sense people here fought for one side or the other. But there was no slavery here at the time---worth mentioning anyway. So why would a poor hick from Logan county care about slavery one way or another?

They were probably 500 miles from the nearest plantation. They had small farms eched out of the rugged terrain and hunted deer for meat.

But many of them fought for the south. Why?

https://www.civilwar.org/learn/articles/why-non-slaveholding-southerners-fought

 

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There was an Army lieutenant colonel.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/36478557/ns/us_news-life/t/army-officer-wont-accept-obama-chief/

so one whole lt col?

thats it?

now answer my ? please

 

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Yeah, I read your link. Did you read this: The German Government first acknowledged that SS veterans were on the pension rolls early this year.

Hint: it means the more popular than ever NYT didn't make it up.

being in the military gives some people a pension

being old gives others one

are you saying old people who were in the german army should get nothing even if they comitted no war crime themselves?

 

[christiefan915]

why would i want to look at it? y would u?

if it wasnt 4 SJWs making them more famous than they deserve i doubt they could fill a college ball park

Because this is the topic that needs to be addressed. Not whether or not these people have free speech or the right to assemble... that's a given. But their ideology shouldn't be held as equal to Antifa.

 

[Airstrip One]

so one whole lt col?

thats it?

now answer my ? please

Do you think I've had any cause to break my oaths to presidents Bush, Obama, and Trump, or to governors (in the Guard, we also swear an oath to our governor) Locke, Gregoire, and Inslee? Do you think the War on Terror is against American principles?

 

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https://www.civilwar.org/learn/articles/why-non-slaveholding-southerners-fought

he wasnt asking u was he?

1 mans opinion is interesting but not the end all or bee all is it?

i imagine men fought for many reasons and we will never know all of them or to what extent they wanted to keep slavery

i will say that i would not lift a finger myself to keep slavery going BUT if i would be shot if i didn't fight in the army i would fight because i had to

 

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Do you think I've had any cause to break my oaths to presidents Bush, Obama, and Trump, or to governors (in the Guard, we also swear an oath to our governor) Locke, Gregoire, and Inslee? Do you think the War on Terror is against American principles?

thats not what i asked u is it?

what oaths would u break if u thought the govt was making u fight 4 something evil?

would u risk a firing squad or a noose to show u didnt want to fight for something bad?

bcuz thats what u seem 2 expect the men of the south to do

 

[Darth Omar]

https://www.civilwar.org/learn/articles/why-non-slaveholding-southerners-fought

At the bottom of your link they ask for a donation to preserve CW sites for historical posterity. Did you give?

I asked the question partly because I'm a Hatfield-McCoy aficionado and it's always puzzled me. Devil Anse Hatfield was no church-goer lol. And he fought for the south. He quit his farm and timber business to help southern slave owners?

I don't buy that.