Trump and Hegseth abandon Admiral over 2nd strike!

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Here we go as both Trump and Pete Hegseth try and distance them from the second strike on that boat and leave the Admiral out to defend his actions and choices as if they were not directed by them.

I doubt anyone is surprised by this, even Magats here, but Magats here will continue to defend this up to the point where it is absolutely clear Trump and Pete will not TACP and will refuse to have the Admirals back at which point the Magats will then change and start saying 'ok it was wrong and illegal but Trump and Pete had nothing to do with it'. YOu can take that last sentence to the bank and pin and use it when the Magats flop.

Trump now saying he, the POTUS, "knew nothing about it", "would not have wanted that", meaning the Admiral acted against his wishes...

Hegseth is now saying this was the Admirals decision, on his own, with no guidance from Hegseth to do it.


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Trump backs Hegseth, but says he wouldn’t have ordered second strike on boat


President Trump said late Sunday that he has complete confidence in Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, even as the commander in chief said he would look into allegations that Hegseth gave an order to “kill everybody” aboard an alleged drug boat in September.

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“I don’t know anything about it. He said he did not say that, and I believe him, 100 percent,” Trump said aboard Air Force One when asked about Friday’s Washington Post report that the initial strike left two survivors clinging to the wreckage.

The Post reported the special operations commander, who was in charge of the military operation, ordered a second attack to comply with Hegseth’s earlier order to “kill everybody” aboard the vessel.

Trump said he would not have ordered a second strike.


“No. 1, I don’t know that that happened,” Trump said, when asked whether a hypothetical second strike would be illegal. “And Pete said he did not want them — he didn’t even know what people were talking about. So, we’ll look at, we’ll look into it.”

“But no, I wouldn’t have wanted that, not a second strike,”


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Hegseth Throws Admiral Under the Bus, Says Navy Leader Ordered Boat Survivors Killed


Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth made clear that he believes Admiral Frank “Mitch” Bradley is the man responsible for a U.S. attack on the survivors of a boat bombing in the Caribbean...

On Monday night, Hegseth tweeted “support” of Bradley while also making sure to say that the admiral was responsible for “combat decisions”:

Let’s make one thing crystal clear (Hegseth said):

Admiral Mitch Bradley is an American hero, a true professional, and has my 100% support. I stand by him and the combat decisions he has made — on the September 2 mission and all others since.

America is fortunate to have such men protecting us. When this
@DeptofWar
says we have the back of our warriors — we mean it.


Contrast the above with Hegseth below saying 2 months ago... "I watched it live. We knew exactly who was in that boat..."




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Magats on this forum (@T. A. Gardner , @FastLane , etc) do you still stand by it be wrong and treasonous to remind those in the military that they need to remember their obligation to not follow illegal orders when it is clear that those in the Command chain of this decision may face hearings with a change in Congress, and they will have no backing, in terms of accountability from Trump and Hegseth?
 
Here we go as both Trump and Pete Hegseth try and distance them from the second strike on that boat and leave the Admiral out to defend his actions and choices as if they were not directed by them.

I doubt anyone is surprised by this, even Magats here, but Magats here will continue to defend this up to the point where it is absolutely clear Trump and Pete will not TACP and will refuse to have the Admirals back at which point the Magats will then change and start saying 'ok it was wrong and illegal but Trump and Pete had nothing to do with it'. YOu can take that last sentence to the bank and pin and use it when the Magats flop.

Trump now saying he, the POTUS, "knew nothing about it", "would not have wanted that", meaning the Admiral acted against his wishes...

Hegseth is now saying this was the Admirals decision, on his own, with no guidance from Hegseth to do it.


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Trump backs Hegseth, but says he wouldn’t have ordered second strike on boat


President Trump said late Sunday that he has complete confidence in Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, even as the commander in chief said he would look into allegations that Hegseth gave an order to “kill everybody” aboard an alleged drug boat in September.

...

“I don’t know anything about it. He said he did not say that, and I believe him, 100 percent,” Trump said aboard Air Force One when asked about Friday’s Washington Post report that the initial strike left two survivors clinging to the wreckage.

The Post reported the special operations commander, who was in charge of the military operation, ordered a second attack to comply with Hegseth’s earlier order to “kill everybody” aboard the vessel.

Trump said he would not have ordered a second strike.


“No. 1, I don’t know that that happened,” Trump said, when asked whether a hypothetical second strike would be illegal. “And Pete said he did not want them — he didn’t even know what people were talking about. So, we’ll look at, we’ll look into it.”

“But no, I wouldn’t have wanted that, not a second strike,”


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Hegseth Throws Admiral Under the Bus, Says Navy Leader Ordered Boat Survivors Killed


Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth made clear that he believes Admiral Frank “Mitch” Bradley is the man responsible for a U.S. attack on the survivors of a boat bombing in the Caribbean...

On Monday night, Hegseth tweeted “support” of Bradley while also making sure to say that the admiral was responsible for “combat decisions”:




Contrast the above with Hegseth below saying 2 months ago... "I watched it live. We knew exactly who was in that boat..."




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Magats on this forum (@T. A. Gardner , @FastLane , etc) do you still stand by it be wrong and treasonous to remind those in the military that they need to remember their obligation to not follow illegal orders when it is clear that those in the Command chain of this decision may face hearings with a change in Congress, and they will have no backing, in terms of accountability from Trump and Hegseth?
Flag officers should get any orders from Hegswith or Trump in writing, because otherwise they will be jettisoned as a fall guy.
 
Flag officers should get any orders from Hegswith or Trump in writing, because otherwise they will be jettisoned as a fall guy.
This Admiral may have back up as apparently there was a call with many heads on it when Hegseth gave the 'kill everyone' order and so if hearings happen and there is a transcript, they will get it, and they can also force all on that call to testify to what was said by Hegseth. It may not save the Admiral who cannot just say 'I was following Hegseth orders' as a defense but it would likely mean he would not go down alone.
 
Here we go as both Trump and Pete Hegseth try and distance them from the second strike on that boat and leave the Admiral out to defend his actions and choices as if they were not directed by them.

I doubt anyone is surprised by this, even Magats here, but Magats here will continue to defend this up to the point where it is absolutely clear Trump and Pete will not TACP and will refuse to have the Admirals back at which point the Magats will then change and start saying 'ok it was wrong and illegal but Trump and Pete had nothing to do with it'. YOu can take that last sentence to the bank and pin and use it when the Magats flop.

Trump now saying he, the POTUS, "knew nothing about it", "would not have wanted that", meaning the Admiral acted against his wishes...

Hegseth is now saying this was the Admirals decision, on his own, with no guidance from Hegseth to do it.


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Trump backs Hegseth, but says he wouldn’t have ordered second strike on boat


President Trump said late Sunday that he has complete confidence in Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, even as the commander in chief said he would look into allegations that Hegseth gave an order to “kill everybody” aboard an alleged drug boat in September.

...

“I don’t know anything about it. He said he did not say that, and I believe him, 100 percent,” Trump said aboard Air Force One when asked about Friday’s Washington Post report that the initial strike left two survivors clinging to the wreckage.

The Post reported the special operations commander, who was in charge of the military operation, ordered a second attack to comply with Hegseth’s earlier order to “kill everybody” aboard the vessel.

Trump said he would not have ordered a second strike.


“No. 1, I don’t know that that happened,” Trump said, when asked whether a hypothetical second strike would be illegal. “And Pete said he did not want them — he didn’t even know what people were talking about. So, we’ll look at, we’ll look into it.”

“But no, I wouldn’t have wanted that, not a second strike,”


----------------------------

Hegseth Throws Admiral Under the Bus, Says Navy Leader Ordered Boat Survivors Killed


Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth made clear that he believes Admiral Frank “Mitch” Bradley is the man responsible for a U.S. attack on the survivors of a boat bombing in the Caribbean...

On Monday night, Hegseth tweeted “support” of Bradley while also making sure to say that the admiral was responsible for “combat decisions”:




Contrast the above with Hegseth below saying 2 months ago... "I watched it live. We knew exactly who was in that boat..."




----------

Magats on this forum (@T. A. Gardner , @FastLane , etc) do you still stand by it be wrong and treasonous to remind those in the military that they need to remember their obligation to not follow illegal orders when it is clear that those in the Command chain of this decision may face hearings with a change in Congress, and they will have no backing, in terms of accountability from Trump
I truly believe that DonOld has no idea what is going on in his administration, his focus is golf and the ballroom.
 
The only true war crime is losing.
Be less stupid Terry. You are really exposing your fascist side.

While it is correct to say 'no war crime may ever be prosecuted if you win' that DOES NOT mean it does not happen.

Just as murder does happen, even if there is no means to indict or prosecute it as the powers that be are corrupt and the ones who did the murder.

It actually DID happen, even if fascist Terry would say 'you have no power... so it never happened'.
 
A stupid reply by a stupid person.

Even within the US, where the US has absolute assertion over its terrain the US cannot simply summarily execute people for trafficking drugs. They must give them legal due process.
I wish you were as worried about the people who would have died if those drugs had made it to shore....
 
I wish you were as worried about the people who would have died if those drugs had made it Here....
It is you who has no care about that...

Trump is on a roll pardoning some of the most prolific drug traffickers and those who facilitated drugs getting into the US...


Here is the DEA estimates about how much drugs came out during the Hernandez rule, who is who Trump just pardoned.

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White House defends pardon of ex-Honduran president convicted of drug trafficking


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AI Summary

Estimated cocaine flow through Honduras during the Hernández era​

Source typeEstimate
DEA intelligence modeling~185 to 240+ metric tons of cocaine per year transiting Honduras at peak periods
U.S. federal prosecution filings against HernándezClaims that as much as 30–40% of U.S.-bound cocaine passed through Honduras during portions of his rule
Academic and regional monitoring groupsEstimates commonly land in the hundreds of tons annually, with total transit estimates for the roughly 12-year Hernández political dominance period ranging from ~2,000 to 3,000+ metric tons total

🚚 Why Honduras mattered​

Under Hernández, Honduras became one of the main air-drop and fast-boat landing hubs for cocaine leaving:


  • Colombia

  • → moving into the Caribbean / Central American corridor

  • → then north into Mexico via groups like:

    • Sinaloa Cartel

    • and eventually U.S. distribution networks.

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Trump pardons founder of drug marketplace whose case was championed by libertarians


President Donald Trump on Tuesday granted a pardon to Ross William Ulbricht, the imprisoned creator of a dark web marketplace for drugs and other illicit products whose case had become a cause célèbre for libertarians and crypto enthusiasts.
 
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I wish you were as worried about the people who would have died if those drugs had made it to shore....
These anti American leftists never gave a damn about the 300,000 or so Americans that were killed by the fentanyl that biden allowed
into our country. They (libs) have shown no interest in the many killings these biden illegal foreigner terrorists have committed on our
citizens and on I.C.E. and National Guards et al. The have no idea how our military and Trump's determination to wipe out these democrat
supported terrorists from ever walking free inside our country again. Blowing up those narco ships with anyone and everyone on them is perfectly legal. These TDS sufferers on the left need to visit Rosie over in Ireland so they can weep their way into permanent hysteria.
 
These anti American leftists never gave a damn about the 300,000 or so Americans that were killed by the fentanyl that biden allowed
into our country. They (libs) have shown no interest in the many killings these biden illegal foreigner terrorists have committed on our
citizens and on I.C.E. and National Guards et al. The have no idea how our military and Trump's determination to wipe out these democrat
supported terrorists from ever walking free inside our country again.
Blowing up those narco ships with anyone and everyone on them is perfectly legal.

 
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