Trump admin reverses ban on lead ammo

USFREEDOM911 said:
Most of them bought a lot of them years ago and just stockpiled them, when the ban of lead was being discussed.
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I have a pretty good stockpile of plumbers lead. I have found that it can be used to make very accurate, nice performing muzzleloader bullets and also a decent 44 mag pistol bullet.
 
Poor shots and lousy hunters feel they need the advantage of poisonous lead shot...
Real sportsmen don't...

Steel is less dense than lead. The pellets weigh one-third less than lead pellets of the same size.

Steel retains less energy and may not kill birds cleanly at the same ranges.
Steel with the same weight and shot size contains more pellets than lead, making loads that contain more shot than necessary.
Compensate for the lighter weight by using a shot one or two sizes larger than the lead shot size.
Steel is harder than lead shot.

Birds may bleed more freely because the steel penetrates better without clogging the wound channels with feather balls.
Steel shot spreads less and has denser shot patterns, resulting in less margin for error in gun handling and trigger timing.
Compensate by using a more open choke like an improved cylinder or modified choke rather than a full choke. This is especially true for shots within 50 yards.

https://www.hunter-ed.com/alaska/st...Between-Lead-and-Steel-Shot/201001_700049164/
 
TheDonald said:
That is Trumps point, that he will not hurt US companies by enforcing laws that hurt consumers at the cash register. Lead shot is not dangerous to an animal that is killed by it any more or less than stainless shot.
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I'm not familiar with this, but we ban lead pipes, and paint... Why does assholiness always become the cause celebre with rightees? Perhaps the ban is to protect workers who manufacture the goods from having to be exposed to the shit all day every day, saving workers from future cancers and their children from birth defects. I mean, if lead is poisonous, and there are equally effective materials without health problems then we are trading lives for a god damned guild entrenchment, not even for the $. And if you lose tackle in a river, that shit is getting straight into the food supply.

When your analysis starts and ends with, "oh, here go liberals again, I'm against whatever the heck it is" you lose my respect.
 
leaningright said:
I have a pretty good stockpile of plumbers lead. I have found that it can be used to make very accurate, nice performing muzzleloader bullets and also a decent 44 mag pistol bullet.
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The left seems to be totally unable to understand that there are a lot of people who aren't dependent upon the need to "buy" everything.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
How so?
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There are two main ways lead can enter the body, inhalation and ingestion. Lead may be inhaled when it is burned or melted releasing some of the lead as a fume. Lead may also be inhaled when dust that contains lead becomes airborne (e.g., when a lead worker's contaminated clothing is worn to the worker's home or dry leaded paint is being removed from a surface.)Lead may be ingested by small children when they eat lead paint chips or play in contaminated soil. Lead may also be ingested when cigarettes, food or food preparation surfaces become contaminated by lead containing dust. Lead may also be ingested through drinking water.

https://www.des.umd.edu/os/rest/lead.html

 
Micawber said:
I'm not familiar with this, but we ban lead pipes, and paint... Why does assholiness always become the cause celebre with rightees? Perhaps the ban is to protect workers who manufacture the goods from having to be exposed to the shit all day every day, saving workers from future cancers and their children from birth defects. I mean, if lead is poisonous, and there are equally effective materials without health problems then we are trading lives for a god damned guild entrenchment, not even for the $. And if you lose tackle in a river, that shit is getting straight into the food supply.

When your analysis starts and ends with, "oh, here go liberals again, I'm against whatever the heck it is" you lose my respect.
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I've tried at least twice in this thread to bring the big picture to light.

This thread seems to be a good illustration of the ills of exposure to lead.
 
Althea said:
There are two main ways lead can enter the body, inhalation and ingestion. Lead may be inhaled when it is burned or melted releasing some of the lead as a fume. Lead may also be inhaled when dust that contains lead becomes airborne (e.g., when a lead worker's contaminated clothing is worn to the worker's home or dry leaded paint is being removed from a surface.)Lead may be ingested by small children when they eat lead paint chips or play in contaminated soil. Lead may also be ingested when cigarettes, food or food preparation surfaces become contaminated by lead containing dust. Lead may also be ingested through drinking water.

https://www.des.umd.edu/os/rest/lead.html
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Then why are you coming to the conclusion that those who cast their own bullets, aren't taking necessary precautions; since you made the comment regarding low IQ?
 
Althea said:
LMAO

When was the last time you 'chose' to buy a mercury thermometer/thermostat?
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I tried to find one just last summer. What? Did they ban them and I missed it? We went through three made in China/Indonesia/Taiwan or wherever before we finally got a digital/electronic one that worked right. They were junk. Oh, they replaced them "free of charge." Cost me three unnecessary trips to town (50 mi rd trip) not to mention my time. I told the wife if I could find one of those old fashioned ones to install I'd get it that last time. I didn't. Fortunately this one is working. But I have one of those round mercury switch thermometers stored in a drawer now as a back up.
 
leaningright said:
I tried to find one just last summer. What? Did they ban them and I missed it? We went through three made in China/Indonesia/Taiwan or wherever before we finally got a digital/electronic one that worked right. They were junk. Oh, they replaced them "free of charge." Cost me three unnecessary trips to town (50 mi rd trip) not to mention my time. I told the wife if I could find one of those old fashioned ones to install I'd get it that last time. I didn't. Fortunately this one is working. But I have one of those round mercury switch thermometers stored in a drawer now as a back up.
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I still have a few thermostats with mercury switches. Truthfully, they use the same bi metal coil that non mercury switch thermostats use. It's just the on/off mechanism that's changed, and the digital ones all work extremely well.


edit...they banned mercury devices decades ago. When I lived in Vt. there was a thermometer plant in town. When they got shut down, there was mercury found in the local stream in very high levels.
 
Althea said:
I've tried at least twice in this thread to bring the big picture to light.

This thread seems to be a good illustration of the ills of exposure to lead.
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What you do, bitch, is post what you believe then expect others to simply agree with it. That's a sign you've been exposed to lead. Keep doing it. The sooner it gets you the better.
 
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