Trump Admin bans Harvard from enrolling foreign / international students

[Walt]

Only foreign students and this will have little or no effect with our standing in the world other than with the Left who can be ignored for being the morons they are.

So you thinking banning foreign students from going there will have little effect on how foreign students see Harvard? Really?

This means that Harvard is only allowed to draw from the US applicants, and that its standing is greatly diminished. That is the whole purpose of the decision.

 

[zymurgy]

Harvard Law School laughed at trump's application. Well, they are not laughing now. Now they, and all of America is suffering.

yawn

 

[Nomad]

Trump didn't make Harvard antisemitic. Trump didn't tell Harvard to collude with the Chinese Communist party on research. And, Harvard brought it on themselves to not do anything about that and more once it was pointed out as unacceptable.

Did trump tell you to repeat his lies and false accusations against Harvard?

Sounds like someone did.

Because that's what you're doing.

 

[Walt]

Are you implying that there aren't enough smart, rich AMERICAN kids to fill those classrooms?

Why would smart, rich, American kids want to go to a provincial school? If that were the way to attract the best of the best, why not set up your own university, and let Harvard continue to make its mistake?

 

[Damocles]

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That is not a passport. Passports say "passport" not "VISA"...

 

[Walt]

It is a good time to apply to Harvard

Not really. They are losing most of their sources of funding, and much of their teaching staff. I doubt you ever went to college, but graduate students are an important part of the teaching staff.

 

[Into the Night]

America has some problems with exporting goods,

It's doing pretty well, Wally. The U.S. feeds the world.

but is doing very well at exporting services... Or at least it was doing well at exporting services. trump is doing everything in his power to destroy our exports in services.

Trump tariffs don't apply to exports, Wally.

We were doing great with people sending their children to the USA, paying full fair, for us to educate them. That is coming to an end.

Occupying school buildings by force and calling for violence is not education, Wally.

Beyond that, universities are our future.

No one is closing universities, Wally.

They develop the future technologies that will allow America to have a good future.

Universities don't develop technology, Wally. Private industry does.

This is going to cost America hundreds a billion a year, until it starts costing America trillions and even tens of trillions a year.

Argument from randU fallacy. Stop making up numbers.

So that is what this means... But Gardner does not care, he wants retribution.

You fallacies are not a meaning, Wally. Go learn what 'retribution' means.

So let's start with where Harvard is.

Cambridge, MA.

It is in the USA, and not a foreign country.

Yup.

It is governed by the laws made by legislatures, and arbitrated by courts.

The Dept of Education is not the legislature, Wally. It is not any court.

The executive does enforce those laws,

Yes he does, Wally.

and has been given a lot of leeway under those laws by Congress, but that is nowhere near unlimited.

Trump has full authority over the Dept of Education.

 

[Damocles]

Donations?

Saudis were responsible for 9/11.

You think the Saudi government was responsible because the folks that flew the planes came from Saudi Arabia? Wouldn't that be like saying we bombed our own FBI building because that idiot McVeigh was an American?

 

[Into the Night]

Harvard Law School laughed at trump's application. Well, they are not laughing now. Now they, and all of America is suffering.

You don't get to speak for everyone, Wally. Omniscience fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

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Not a passport. Try again.

 

[Walt]

Why are you blaming Trump?

Because he decided to do this. Claiming trump's decisions are not trump's fault is insane.

Why aren't you blaming Harvard?

Because Harvard cannot force trump to make these bizarre decisions.

Why aren't you blaming Rubio?

I guess we could spread the blame around, but this is not really a State Department issue. Yes, Rubio should have talked common sense to trump, but so should hundreds of other members of the clown car.

If it makes you feel any better, we can blame (or give credit) to the entire party of trump for what comes next. If destroying our education system turns out to be a great idea, every member of the party of trump will get the credit. If not, then we can all vote against every member of the party of trump for the rest of eternity.

 

[Into the Night]

Not really. They are losing most of their sources of funding, and much of their teaching staff.

Wait...YOU said they were privately funded! Which is it, Wally????

I doubt you ever went to college,

Mantra 1c. Lame.

but graduate students are an important part of the teaching staff.

Students are not teaching staff, Wally.

 

[Walt]

That is not a passport. Passports say "passport" not "VISA"...

It looks like a Saudi Arabian passport with a US visa inside it. Visas are often put inside passports.

 

[AProudLefty]

You think the Saudi government was responsible because the folks that flew the planes came from Saudi Arabia? Wouldn't that be like saying we bombed our own FBI building because that idiot McVeigh was an American?

You think some guy living in a cave on dialysis was responsible for a successful elaborate attack on the USA?

 

[Walt]

The U.S. feeds the world.

The US is a major producer of food, but so is Brazil or Australia. Heck, Ukraine produces huge amounts of food.

We can be replaced.

 

[Damocles]

It looks like a Saudi Arabian passport with a US visa inside it. Visas are often put inside passports.

Geebus, now you are making crap up. That is a travel VISA, if it were a passport you would be blaming Americans on the attack because that is an American Travel VISA.

Just stop., say, "Oops I said passport when I meant VISA." admit the mistake and move on. Let's not pretend that these things are the same.

US of A does not issue Saudi passports.

 

[Damocles]

You think some guy living in a cave on dialysis was responsible for a successful elaborate attack on the USA?

I don't think that he was living in a cave until after the attack when he became a fugitive from USA Justice... and then the world champion hide and go seek player.

 

[AProudLefty]

You think some guy living in a cave on dialysis was responsible for a successful elaborate attack on the US.

You think the Saudi government was responsible because the folks that flew the planes came from Saudi Arabia? Wouldn't that be like saying we bombed our own FBI building because that idiot McVeigh was an American?

Bad logic.

 

[Damocles]

Bad logic.

Not even... *sigh*

First, you give me an American travel visa as "proof" that the Saudi Government was behind 9/11, then won't admit it isn't a passport, then pretend that one of the richest men in that region was a cave dweller before the attack made him want to hide, and now refuse to admit the poor logic of the "passport" angle.

Having a Saudi Passport or an American travel VISA that says some dude is Saudi does not equal Saudi Government masterminding 9/11.

 

[AProudLefty]

Geebus, now you are making crap up. That is a travel VISA, if it were a passport you would be blaming Americans on the attack because that is an American Travel VISA.

Just stop., say, "Oops I said passport when I meant VISA." admit the mistake and move on. Let's not pretend that these things are the same.

US of A does not issue Saudi passports.

So it's VISA, not a passport, as you'd like to point out. Does that change the fact that most terrorists were from Saudi Arabia?