Troy Davis execution delayed

WinterBorn said:
We willingly took a human life when that life was no threat. I see that as wrong.
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I understand the argument- I disagree that it is wrong. Justice demands payment for a crime. I have no problem with a state that says for capital crimes the payment is a life sentence. Likewise, I have no problem, when a state says that it is death. So long as the rules are clear and the system just in its tasks to carry it out- then both states consequences ensure that justice has been served. If a man wishes to avoid a states justice system, then he should not commit the crime. I believe that the mercy a justice system is responsible to is in a mans right to a fair trial-
 
Synchronicity ¯\_(ツ)_/¯;873764 said:
Nothing makes me happier than seeing a cop killer executed. Today is truly a wonderful day. I am so happy Troy Davis is dead. Executions are awesome.

Face it, this comes up every year. A year or two ago it was tookie williams. People love defending scumbag criminals.

I would also like to state, that no one should believe the conservatives that claim to be against the death penalty. It's a ruse and a stealthy strategy on their part to give up a little ground and make it seem like they are slightly more humanitarian, when they really aren't seeing that they will still make sure someone is in a small cell for their entire life. These same conservatives that are "Against the death penalty" will meanwhile have 50 guns and routinely enjoy killing things and also wouldn't hesitate to shoot someone that walked onto their property. Make no mistake, all conservatives secretly love the death penalty. It is very satisfying executing people.

And as a semi-conservative, I admit this truth. executions are a wonderful affair, we should have balloons and music and food and a wonderful party each time one happens.
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Which makes the claims that any dictator was/is a liberal ludicrous.

While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians
 
Dixie said:
Then why did they release the first man they charged? Seems like, if they were just wanting blood and any black man would do, they would have gone with the one they had already arrested and had in custody... or why not do a 2-for-1 deal and convict both? As the investigation unfolded, they determined they had the wrong man.... they *gasp* released him! Oh my....the KKK should revoke their memberships!
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Hey Dixie, you still haven't given me the name of the person police arrested, charged and released?

But that name is no secret...

The case against Troy Davis consisted entirely of witness testimony which contained inconsistencies even at the time of the trial. Since then, all but two of the state's non-police witnesses from the trial have recanted or contradicted their testimony.

Many of these witnesses have stated in sworn affidavits that they were pressured or coerced by police into testifying or signing statements against Troy Davis.

One of the two witnesses who has not recanted his testimony is Sylvester "Red" Coles — the principle alternative suspect, according to the defense, against whom there is new evidence implicating him as the gunman. Nine individuals have signed affidavits implicating Sylvester Coles.
 
Why is everyone so upset that we took another scumbag off the streets and now we dont have to spend money on his welfare anymore.

There were 24 eye witnesses.

This guy crossed a line and there is no turning back and reversing his decision to pull the trigger and shoot a cop in the face.
 
icedancer2theend said:
I am not opposed on moral grounds- but on the grounds of a system that is no longer balanced in favor of the accused unless he has money. A man knowingly murders another and does so without regards for the consequences of said act. He then must, also be accountable, to those consequences if caught-there is no moral question in that circumstance that I can see.
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I believe that if you are going to execute someone then there has to be a much higher level of certainty regarding guilt, beyond reasonable doubt is just not good enough. There has been far too many examples, down the years, of people being executed who were later found to be innocent.

http://nakedlaw.avvo.com/2010/05/8-people-who-were-executed-and-later-found-innocent/
 
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Aoxomoxoa said:
I believe that if you are going to execute someone then there has to be a much higher level of certainty regarding guilt, beyond reasonable doubt is just not good enough. There has been far too many examples, down the years, of people being executed who were later found to be innocent.

http://nakedlaw.avvo.com/2010/05/8-people-who-were-executed-and-later-found-innocent/
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So a young women, Ann, is found dead, looks like rape,..., and Joes DNA matched semen is found in her vagina.....Joe says they had consensual sex and left her alive and in perfect health....


Thats all there is .... no more evidence....is Joe a murderer or does he walk away a free man ?

Its reasonable to believe Joe but Frank says Joe was in a bar saying he some pussy that night.....

According to you...Joe walks right ? and the fact that he is a 2 time loser convicted of rape before is inadmissible evidence....tough shit for little Annie, huh ?
 
bravo said:
So a young women, Ann, is found dead, looks like rape,..., and Joes DNA matched semen is found in her vagina.....Joe says they had consensual sex and left her alive and in perfect health....


Thats all there is .... no more evidence....is Joe a murderer or does he walk away a free man ?

Its reasonable to believe Joe but Frank says Joe was in a bar saying he some pussy that night.....

According to you...Joe walks right ? and the fact that he is a 2 time loser convicted of rape before is inadmissible evidence....tough shit for little Annie, huh ?
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Did anyone say they walk? Do you think there are only two choices, execution or freedom? Talk about a strawman, you used an entire hayfield for this one.
 
WinterBorn said:
Did anyone say they walk? Do you think there are only two choices, execution or freedom? Talk about a strawman, you used an entire hayfield for this one.
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You would put this man in prison for the rest of his life when there is reasonable doubt..????

You've just seen Casey Anthony and OJ Simpson get away with murder....or did you ?

Have you ever served on a jury, even in a minor case ?


Do you think murder and rape take place in front of witnesses ?......
 
Mr. T said:
Why is everyone so upset that we took another scumbag off the streets and now we dont have to spend money on his welfare anymore.

There were 24 eye witnesses.

This guy crossed a line and there is no turning back and reversing his decision to pull the trigger and shoot a cop in the face.
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Perhaps they took the 'wrong' scumbag off the streets .... SCUMBAG!
 
bravo said:
You would put this man in prison for the rest of his life when their is reasonable doubt..????

You've just seen Casey Anthony and OJ Simpson get away with murder....or did you ?

Have you ever served on a jury, even in a minor case ?
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It's a well established fact that if you have money you will receive a higher form of justice than if you are poor. One time there wasn't even a requirement for the authorities to provide a state funded lawyer. The famous case of Gideon v. Wainwright established the right to legal representation, prior to that you were screwed if you couldn't afford the legal costs. I recommend that you watch the film Gideon's Trumpet, one of Henry Fonda's finest performances.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080789/
 
bravo said:
You would put this man in prison for the rest of his life when there is reasonable doubt..????

You've just seen Casey Anthony and OJ Simpson get away with murder....or did you ?

Have you ever served on a jury, even in a minor case ?


Do you think murder and rape take place in front of witnesses ?......
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Life in prison if convicted,yes.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
It's a well established fact that if you have money you will receive a higher form of justice than if you are poor. One time there wasn't even a requirement for the authorities to provide a state funded lawyer. The famous case of Gideon v. Wainwright established the right to legal representation, prior to that you were screwed if you couldn't afford the legal costs. I recommend that you watch the film Gideon's Trumpet, one of Henry Fonda's finest performances.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080789/
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I AGREE....... but it Brings back memories......

—Timothy Geithner,--- major tax evasion problems.

—Nancy Killefer,--- didn’t pay taxes on domestic help for over a year.

—Tom Daschle, serious tax evasion problems

_ Kathleen Sebelius, "unintentional errors" on her taxs

_ Charles B. Rangel (D-N.Y. dodging taxes. admitted mistakes , sloppy and ignorant

But you know damn well if it was "joe the Plumber" in similar circumstances, they go to jail....
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
I believe that if you are going to execute someone then there has to be a much higher level of certainty regarding guilt, beyond reasonable doubt is just not good enough. There has been far too many examples, down the years, of people being executed who were later found to be innocent.

http://nakedlaw.avvo.com/2010/05/8-people-who-were-executed-and-later-found-innocent/
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And yet all the bleeding hears weren't able to "discover" this evidence, until WAY AFTER the person was executed.
You would think that with all this ability at their disposal, that they would have been able to refute the evidence BEFORE the person was executed.
 
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