Top reasons to buy an electric car instead of a gas vehicle. MAGA wets panties.

There’s no evidence electric vehicles fare worse than gas-powered cars in long traffic jams

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jan/07/facebook-posts/theres-no-evidence-electric-vehicles-fare-worse-ga/

Extreme cold can reduce the range of a moving electric vehicle by as much as half.

However, when those vehicles are idling in a long traffic jam, their motors aren’t running, unlike gas-powered cars. So, in severe cold, the only draw on the EV battery would be the heating system and other electrical accessories.

Cars with internal combustion engines are at risk of running out of gas or having their batteries die in a situation like the Virginia snowstorm.

A major snowstorm in Virginia this week left hundreds of motorists stranded in freezing conditions on Interstate 95, some of them for more than 24 hours.

That led a social media user to warn of what would have happened if more of those cars had been electric vehicles.

"Imagine if half the cars in the traffic jam on I-95 in Virginia last night were electric vehicles. And half of those were to run out of battery power," A Facebook post on Jan. 4 said. "All those people would be stuck in freezing temperatures without a heated vehicle. And all the cars would be stuck unable to move because you can’t bring a charging station to them. In effect all those electric cars would become roadblocks to the gasoline powered vehicles. Just something to think about when you hear politicians pushing electric vehicles over gasoline and diesel."

This post was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.)

The post suggests electric vehicles would have been more prone to failure in such conditions than gasoline-powered cars and trucks. Others raised similar concerns, including a Washington Post columnist, who shared a tweet from a trucker who recounted his experience with a Tesla driver who was worried about running out of power.

But are such worries grounded in reality?

Many variables affect how a given electric vehicle would fare in such a situation, including the type of battery it has, the heating system it uses and whether the vehicle was fully charged before the trip. But there’s no evidence that EVs generally would be more prone to failure in a traffic jam like the one that happened in Virginia.

The range of an electric vehicle varies widely by model, from 110 miles in the Mini Cooper Electric to up to 373 miles in the Tesla Model S. And cold weather can diminish the range of an EV, according to automakers and tests by Consumer Reports.

But when idling, as in a standstill traffic jam, an EV behaves differently from a gas-powered vehicle. An electric vehicle’s motor doesn’t run when the car is stationary, so the only draw on the battery is for the heating system and other electrical accessories. Drivers idling in a gas-powered vehicle would need to keep the engine running, and gasoline burning, to keep the heat on.

In December, PolitiFact examined a similar claim that said electric vehicles are more likely to fail in traffic jams in cold weather. We found that to be false because the vehicles don’t use much power while at a standstill or in their climate settings.


To understand the energy capacity of an EV’s battery, Peter Wells, director of the Centre for Automotive Industry Research at Cardiff Business School in Wales, told PolitiFact that the average U.S. house uses 30 kilowatt-hours of power per day, so a fully charged 62 kilowatt-hour battery in an electric car could power a house for two days.

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EVs use almost twice as much energy as a gasoline car. Plus you get all the inconvenience of taking a long time to charge it!
 
Too bad you have to lie to make your point.
Too bad you have to lie to make your point.
Coal only makes up 11% of electrical energy sources.
Coal, oil, and natural gas make up the bulk of electricity generation. EV's use almost twice as much energy as a gasoline car. They are more damaging to the environment. Both to manufacture and to charge. If EVs are forced upon the public, coal is the quickest way to build the necessary power plants.
That's less than renewables, you fucking MAGA moron.
MAGA isn't a person.

Both oil and natural gas are renewable fuels.
Coal may be renewable, but that is currently unknown.

Solar panels are the most expensive method of generating electricity, watt for watt.
Wind generators are the 2nd most expensive.
 
You Reichwingers hated Musk because of Tesla and how much you fear and hate EVs, esp. since the vast majority of you can't afford one. Now he's your darling because he restored your ability to be public racists, morons, and purveyors of bullshit on Twitter.

The German Reich (Nazi party) were fascists. That is a form of socialism. It is the same as the DEMOCRATS.
 
There’s no evidence electric vehicles fare worse than gas-powered cars in long traffic jams

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jan/07/facebook-posts/theres-no-evidence-electric-vehicles-fare-worse-ga/

Extreme cold can reduce the range of a moving electric vehicle by as much as half.

However, when those vehicles are idling in a long traffic jam, their motors aren’t running, unlike gas-powered cars. So, in severe cold, the only draw on the EV battery would be the heating system and other electrical accessories.

Cars with internal combustion engines are at risk of running out of gas or having their batteries die in a situation like the Virginia snowstorm.

A major snowstorm in Virginia this week left hundreds of motorists stranded in freezing conditions on Interstate 95, some of them for more than 24 hours.

That led a social media user to warn of what would have happened if more of those cars had been electric vehicles.

"Imagine if half the cars in the traffic jam on I-95 in Virginia last night were electric vehicles. And half of those were to run out of battery power," A Facebook post on Jan. 4 said. "All those people would be stuck in freezing temperatures without a heated vehicle. And all the cars would be stuck unable to move because you can’t bring a charging station to them. In effect all those electric cars would become roadblocks to the gasoline powered vehicles. Just something to think about when you hear politicians pushing electric vehicles over gasoline and diesel."

This post was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.)

The post suggests electric vehicles would have been more prone to failure in such conditions than gasoline-powered cars and trucks. Others raised similar concerns, including a Washington Post columnist, who shared a tweet from a trucker who recounted his experience with a Tesla driver who was worried about running out of power.

But are such worries grounded in reality?

Many variables affect how a given electric vehicle would fare in such a situation, including the type of battery it has, the heating system it uses and whether the vehicle was fully charged before the trip. But there’s no evidence that EVs generally would be more prone to failure in a traffic jam like the one that happened in Virginia.

The range of an electric vehicle varies widely by model, from 110 miles in the Mini Cooper Electric to up to 373 miles in the Tesla Model S. And cold weather can diminish the range of an EV, according to automakers and tests by Consumer Reports.

But when idling, as in a standstill traffic jam, an EV behaves differently from a gas-powered vehicle. An electric vehicle’s motor doesn’t run when the car is stationary, so the only draw on the battery is for the heating system and other electrical accessories. Drivers idling in a gas-powered vehicle would need to keep the engine running, and gasoline burning, to keep the heat on.

In December, PolitiFact examined a similar claim that said electric vehicles are more likely to fail in traffic jams in cold weather. We found that to be false because the vehicles don’t use much power while at a standstill or in their climate settings.


To understand the energy capacity of an EV’s battery, Peter Wells, director of the Centre for Automotive Industry Research at Cardiff Business School in Wales, told PolitiFact that the average U.S. house uses 30 kilowatt-hours of power per day, so a fully charged 62 kilowatt-hour battery in an electric car could power a house for two days.

That might be the single dumbest post since any EV thread has been created. Joey wets panties.
 
The German Reich (Nazi party) were fascists. That is a form of socialism. It is the same as the DEMOCRATS.

The German party that Hitler took over had socialism in its name, but not its actions. Hitler, Mussolini, and the Repubs read from the same play book. Socialism is not what Hitler brought to Germany.
 
The German party that Hitler took over
Hitler created the Nazi party.
had socialism in its name, but not its actions.
It was fascism. That is a form of socialism.
Hitler, Mussolini, and the Repubs read from the same play book.
Lie.
Hltler and Mussolini were fascists. That is a form of socialism. That is like Democrats. They were totalitarians. That is like Democrats.

Socialism is not what Hitler brought to Germany.
 
Nope. They don't have the range and towing capacity.

They have equal range and if you are paying attention, you would see it gets better and better. They have greater towing capacity, but are not, at this moment, suited to long-distance hauling. You cannot pull a huge truck and trailer into the charging stations. The infrastructure for that is being built.
 
They have equal range and if you are paying attention, you would see it gets better and better. They have greater towing capacity, but are not, at this moment, suited to long-distance hauling. You cannot pull a huge truck and trailer into the charging stations. The infrastructure for that is being built.

They do not.
 
Thank the heavens that the necessity for the fucking electric car is coming now when the gasoline cars are so ugly and have tall head restraints that don't allow one to wear a proper Borsalino.

If they were deemed necessary in the age of suicide-door Lincolns with 7 liter plus engines, mass global suicide would have seemed like a fucking good idea.
 
Too bad you have to lie to make your point. Coal only makes up 11% of electrical energy sources. That's less than renewables, you fucking MAGA moron.

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You're so full of shit it's truly painful. The actual figure is 21.9%, why are you such a liar?

In 2021, about 4,108 billion kilowatthours (kWh) (or about 4.11 trillion kWh) of electricity were generated at utility-scale electricity generation facilities in the United States.1 About 61% of this electricity generation was from fossil fuels—coal, natural gas, petroleum, and other gases. About 19% was from nuclear energy, and about 20% was from renewable energy sources.

The U.S. Energy Information Administration estimates that an additional 49 billion kWh of electricity generation was from small-scale solar photovoltaic systems in 2021.2

https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=427&t=3
 
It is true that ICEs run out of gas in those incidents. Did you forget that? EVs have 300 miles range.

When your REV runs out of charge, is someone going to show up with a 5-gallon can of electricity?
As for the 300 mi range, that is bullshit. Cold, heat, and traffic congestion determine how long that thing keeps its charge.
 
You're so full of shit it's truly painful. The actual figure is 21.9%, why are you such a liar?

In 2021, about 4,108 billion kilowatthours (kWh) (or about 4.11 trillion kWh) of electricity were generated at utility-scale electricity generation facilities in the United States.1 About 61% of this electricity generation was from fossil fuels—coal, natural gas, petroleum, and other gases. About 19% was from nuclear energy, and about 20% was from renewable energy sources.

The U.S. Energy Information Administration estimates that an additional 49 billion kWh of electricity generation was from small-scale solar photovoltaic systems in 2021.2

https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=427&t=3

Did you even look at my graphic and the source?
The US Energy Information Administration: https://www.justplainpolitics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=24267
 
The German party that Hitler took over had socialism in its name, but not its actions. Hitler, Mussolini, and the Repubs read from the same play book. Socialism is not what Hitler brought to Germany.

Don't talk to the Reichtards, it could be contagious.
 
Even if the 22% metric is true, that would mean that 78% of the energy source for powerplants in America is non-coal.
78%
Thanks for the confirmation, Serendipshit.

So what EV model are you going to buy, Serendipshit? BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!

Gas power stations are nearly 40%, shit for brains!!
 
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