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actually, the "final say" is the person, in retrospect, who did, in fact, have the "final say". That would be Bush in this case.
 
maineman said:
actually, the "final say" is the person, in retrospect, who did, in fact, have the "final say". That would be Bush in this case.
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I love that tired old leftist meme; that Bush went in alone. Yes dunce, he was all alone in the belief that Saddam was a threat, that Saddam was ignoring the UN requests to provide information regarding his weapons and yes, Bush went in all alone without the aid of 36 other nations.

One thing we can be certain of when it comes to brain dead partisan dunces on the left; no matter how many times you beat them over the head with the facts, they're still going to say painfully stupid things like you do.

Moron.
 
NOVA said:
Ok .... yesterday, talking to Thingy.....sorry about that....

Yeah, and I'll stick with it....because Bush sought approval and I believe would NOT have acted alone without approval, Congress did, in fact, have the final say...
also recognizing that Bush did make the final call because Congress cannot really FORCE the president to go to war ..... he must agree
Congress can only force a president to not go to war.....follow that ?

So you see, its not a flip flop at all is it....

Now with the War Powers Act and other legislation, a president could use military force and seek approval later in an emergency, ie imminent danger to the country,
course, Obama don't count, he can do anything he wants, ignoring that law.
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Jesus Christ - what the hell is the matter with you?

Uh....Bush, if not for Congress, because Congress approved this & that, and a decision could not be made without such & such, and he really didn't think much, because Congress did this, and uh...well, Congress this and that.

For god's sake man - BUSH DECIDED TO INVADE IRAQ. There was no hurry, no compelling reason - inspections were working. No one in Congress was pushing him, or calling him out for waiting so long, or mandating anything. BUSH DECIDED TO INVADE IRAQ.

What the hell is the matter with you?
 
evince said:
this documentary will PROVE why we went to war with Iraq.


PROVE


not suggest


PROVE,


they have complete documentation.
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It was the Military Industrial Complex. This debate is centuries old, literally. Our government that are only in power because of the rich people who put them there generally do what the rich donors want them to do. Sometimes you get multiple donors and there is conflict of "donorship" like our stance with Syria. Corporations wanted that war yet Obama didn't go to war and the corporate driven media called him a coward.

Ironically, Obama has been a coward in their perspective for not going to war with; Libya (before he did), Iran, Syria, Korea and was called a coward for promising to pull troops out of Afghanistan........

Today the Right is painting Obama as a coward for not taking heavy measures against Russia............

The Right Wing tactic of going to war with everyone that disagree's with them IS OVER! Locally and globally.
 
Thing1 said:
Jesus Christ - what the hell is the matter with you?

Uh....Bush, if not for Congress, because Congress approved this & that, and a decision could not be made without such & such, and he really didn't think much, because Congress did this, and uh...well, Congress this and that.

For god's sake man - BUSH DECIDED TO INVADE IRAQ. There was no hurry, no compelling reason - inspections were working. No one in Congress was pushing him, or calling him out for waiting so long, or mandating anything. BUSH DECIDED TO INVADE IRAQ.

What the hell is the matter with you?
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Bush told Congress that there was secret intelligence proving Iraq had WMD's.

Ever since then the Right Wing intelligence has been a secret......
 
This video is from 1961 and THE BIAS AMERICANS STILL DON'T WANT TO UNDERSTAND TRUTH. Because BOTH parties are guilty...

 
Thing1 said:
What does that even mean?

You guys are getting it partially right now, at least. BUSH DECIDED. That's really all that matters in terms of history. Congress gave him the authority to use force - but they didn't say he had to use it, or define what kind of force. In fact many, even Republicans, expressed that they hoped he wouldn't have to, and that if he did, it would be along the lines of airstrikes.

So, when it came to actually invading, and rushing to war - that was all Bush. 100%. His call, his war.

Again - sorry about that. I know you wish some Dems helped him decide; but they didn't.
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So basically what you're saying is that they told him YES; but then said "Well we didn't think he was really going to do ahead with it"??

:palm:
 

Strange how Bush's VP was a senior member of Halliburton and after the war in Iraq, after no WMD's were found yet LARGE sums of money to Bush were found in donations by the Military Industrial Complex, today yes TODAY Dick Cheneys' Construction company is rebuilding Iraq....

This isn't and shouldn't be advanced philosophy, it's the basic start a fire and profit from water. If you haven't seen any "fires" in America lately then you are an idiot. Today we are selling Americans we have to get involved in YET ANOTHER Country when we are broke. And the people selling this are the people that are screaming that we are broke!.

Your party has two options.........Diplomacy or War. Diplomacy is a deep and nasty word that can poke deep at a country. I don't understand why the Right is always stating that diplomacy is bad and War is good. They have turned into a bunch of uneducated morons IMO.
 
Truth Detector said:
LMAO; this is your brain on stupid....don't do stupid.
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Nothing says "im a terrible forum debator" like stating" ............."THIS IS YOUR BRAIN ON STUPID...........DON'T BE STUPID"..................

I don't understand this and it happens all day on this forum.

If you want to debate a topic then debate it. This clearly has nothing to do with the topic.

If you want to look like a 12 year old then you are solidifying your image.

You do realize that "The biggest insult doesn't win the Debate" (R)ight? Information wins the debate........and "you're stupid" isn't information..
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
So basically what you're saying is that they told him YES; but then said "Well we didn't think he was really going to do ahead with it"??

:palm:
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What the fuck are you talking about, you stupid braindead fuck?

They didn't say "yes" to any plan. They gave him authorization to use force if necessary; he took it from there. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
 
Anti-Party said:
Nothing says "im a terrible forum debator" like stating" ............."THIS IS YOUR BRAIN ON STUPID...........DON'T BE STUPID"..................

I don't understand this and it happens all day on this forum.

If you want to debate a topic then debate it. This clearly has nothing to do with the topic.

If you want to look like a 12 year old then you are solidifying your image.

You do realize that "The biggest insult doesn't win the Debate" (R)ight? Information wins the debate........and "you're stupid" isn't information..
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Or how about someone making an asinine comment and then running away?

USFREEDOM911 said:
OK, I'll go slow here; because obviously you're just looking for something to complain about.

You said:


I then responded, with:


Now, here's where you really do have to focus; OK.
His avatar looked similar to Dr. Manhattan in the movie The Watchmen.
Here's a clip:

Does that sooth your hurt feelings?
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Anti-Party said:
Nothing says "im a terrible forum debator" like stating" ............."THIS IS YOUR BRAIN ON STUPID...........DON'T BE STUPID"..................

I don't understand this and it happens all day on this forum.

If you want to debate a topic then debate it. This clearly has nothing to do with the topic.

If you want to look like a 12 year old then you are solidifying your image.

You do realize that "The biggest insult doesn't win the Debate" (R)ight? Information wins the debate........and "you're stupid" isn't information..
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Of course you don't understand; you're an idiot. One cannot debate with idiots because they are idiots and make up their own version of reality. Do yourself a favor and put me on ignore; otherwise I'm compelled to point at you and saying; look an idiot!

You're a moron. The sad part is that you bred and will probably train your children to be morons.
 
Thing1 said:
What the fuck are you talking about, you stupid braindead fuck?

They didn't say "yes" to any plan. They gave him authorization to use force if necessary; he took it from there. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
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Wrong again shit-for-brains; they knew perfectly well what thy were voting for. But you're an idiot stuck on a special brand of stupid.
 
Truth Detector said:
Wrong again shit-for-brains; they knew perfectly well what thy were voting for. But you're an idiot stuck on a special brand of stupid.
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Even Dick Armey disagrees w/ you.

I'm just amazed at the lengths you worshippers are going to on this thread to protect Bush from accountability. What do you owe that guy? He doesn't care; he owns the decision to invade Iraq & is proud of it.

It's weird & surreal to hear you idiots tripping over yourselves trying to pretend it wasn't his call.
 
Thing1 said:
Even Dick Armey disagrees w/ you.

I'm just amazed at the lengths you worshippers are going to on this thread to protect Bush from accountability. What do you owe that guy? He doesn't care; he owns the decision to invade Iraq & is proud of it.

It's weird & surreal to hear you idiots tripping over yourselves trying to pretend it wasn't his call.
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No one is pretending it wasn't his call dumbass; it's your version that suggests he was alone in his belief and that 36 other leaders and a large number of Democrats didn't agree with him. But then, you're too fucking stupid to comprehend the obvious which is why you were one of the low information dunces who voted for Obummer; twice nonetheless.

Moron.
 
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