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Feb 4, 6:33 AM EST

Cash-strapped states mull seat belt law changes

By STEPHEN MAJORS
Associated Press Writer

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -- Drivers better buckle up or pay the price: More cash-strapped states want to give law enforcement officers the authority to pull over motorists just for not wearing their seat belts.

More than a dozen states that are considering making the switch to primary seat-belt enforcement laws need to do so before July to be eligible for millions in federal money.

One of those states is Ohio, which would get $26.8 million if it changes its law. Currently, officers in the state must first have some other reason to stop drivers over before issuing seat-belt citations.

States without primary seat-belt enforcement that want the federal money must pass a bill and have it signed by the governor by June 30 - and begin issuing citations by Sept. 30 - to qualify for federal funds, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. The federal money attached to seat-belt enforcement can only be spent for highway-related projects.

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Congress adopted the federal incentive program in the 2005 federal transportation bill as a way to encourage states to adopt the primary enforcement law. The goal was to save lives, reduce insurance costs, and cut medical bills.

(note: 2005, congress was repub controlled and Bush was president)


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We've already got that law or a similar law here in OK. I just know they can stop you if you aren't wearing the safety belt. I don't like it but it is the way it is.

Kind of like the 4-wheeler law as pertains to WMA's in our state........I don't like it but it is the way it is. I will get a ticket for one or the other one of these days.
 
Anyone stupid enough to drive without wearing their seatbelt is too stupid to be allowed to complain.

If someone is driving without their seatbelt they are less able to control their vehicle, much more likely to suffer serious injuries, and should get a ticket and be bitch-slapped.

Let me add, the above rant applies only to people driving on public roads. If youare driving on private property without a seatbelt you are still an idiot but no tickets or bitch-slapping should apply.
 
Solitary said:
Anyone stupid enough to drive without wearing their seatbelt is too stupid to be allowed to complain.

If someone is driving without their seatbelt they are less able to control their vehicle, much more likely to suffer serious injuries, and should get a ticket and be bitch-slapped.

Let me add, the above rant applies only to people driving on public roads. If youare driving on private property without a seatbelt you are still an idiot but no tickets or bitch-slapping should apply.
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I am ok with ADULTS not wearing their seat belts, but I want legislation in all 50 states that says that failure to wear a seat belt can be mentioned in a personal injury or wrongful death suit. I want insurance companies to put in large print that ANY accident in which you get injured in, your fault or not, your insurance company doesn't have to pay for your injuries. Then let the the driver decide.
 
So you have a passenger not wearing a seat belt and your ins will not pay for them so you get sued?
Of course you can keep an eye on them in the backseat while driving.
 
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Socrtease said:
I am ok with ADULTS not wearing their seat belts, but I want legislation in all 50 states that says that failure to wear a seat belt can be mentioned in a personal injury or wrongful death suit. I want insurance companies to put in large print that ANY accident in which you get injured in, your fault or not, your insurance company doesn't have to pay for your injuries. Then let the the driver decide.
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That sounds ok, except for the fact that the driver is not in complete control if they have to make emergency maneuvers. If you are using the steering wheel to hold yourself in place, you are not capable of evasive actions that you would be if you were buckled in.

Also, this is not about a freedom. This is about a requirement to operate machinery on public roads.

For everyone on this forum, car accidents are the most likely cause of your death. In fact, unless you are under 5 or over 80, they are the number one cause of death.

They are also the number one cause of work related injuries and death.

And seatbelt use could cut the number of deaths by 50%.
 
Solitary said:
Anyone stupid enough to drive without wearing their seatbelt is too stupid to be allowed to complain.

If someone is driving without their seatbelt they are less able to control their vehicle, much more likely to suffer serious injuries, and should get a ticket and be bitch-slapped.

Let me add, the above rant applies only to people driving on public roads. If youare driving on private property without a seatbelt you are still an idiot but no tickets or bitch-slapping should apply.
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so make a law mandating wearing that seatbelt. government knows whats best for you so STFU and GBTW.....smiling, smiling, and your seatbelt please, thank you.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
so make a law mandating wearing that seatbelt. government knows whats best for you so STFU and GBTW.....smiling, smiling, and your seatbelt please, thank you.
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I don't care if you wear your seat belt, but if you get hurt in an accident, your fault or not, without a seatbelt on, then NO ONE should have to pay for your injuries but you. And those hospital bills should also be collected by seizing property without ANY exemptions.
 
Socrtease said:
I don't care if you wear your seat belt, but if you get hurt in an accident, your fault or not, without a seatbelt on, then NO ONE should have to pay for your injuries but you. And those hospital bills should also be collected by seizing property without ANY exemptions.
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Yeah, and if you go skydiving. And if you climb rocks. Drive a motorcycle at all. Live without an exercise program. Eat at McDonald's.

Anything that would put you at more risk than another nobody should ever pay your medical bills and you should be put in debtors prison until you have paid the debt in slave labor.

Seriously. You're going a bit far.
 
Damocles said:
Yeah, and if you go skydiving. And if you climb rocks. Drive a motorcycle at all. Live without an exercise program. Eat at McDonald's.

Anything that would put you at more risk than another nobody should ever pay your medical bills and you should be put in debtors prison until you have paid the debt in slave labor.

Seriously. You're going a bit far.
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It takes no effort to click a seat belt. None. If you aren't wearing your seatbelt in an accident your injuries are your fault. You could have mitigated or avoided all together, but because you (not you personally) don't like the state giving orders it is some act of civil disobedience.
 
Socrtease said:
It takes no effort to click a seat belt. None. If you aren't wearing your seatbelt in an accident your injuries are your fault. You could have mitigated or avoided all together, but because you (not you personally) don't like the state giving orders it is some act of civil disobedience.
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That's a bit much don't you think? To the extent injuries could be mitigated or avoided any damages should be reduced accordingly, but if there was no accident in the first instance the injuries never would have occurred at all.
 
Dungheap said:
That's a bit much don't you think? To the extent injuries could be mitigated or avoided any damages should be reduced accordingly, but if there was no accident in the first instance the injuries never would have occurred at all.
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It is the law in all 50 states. If you were to injure someone while breaking the law, they could sue you for negligence per se. That means that merely by breaking the law, your wrong act was negligent on it's face. Driving without a seatbelt is a violation of the law and should be considered negligence on its face.
 
Socrtease said:
It takes no effort to click a seat belt. None. If you aren't wearing your seatbelt in an accident your injuries are your fault. You could have mitigated or avoided all together, but because you (not you personally) don't like the state giving orders it is some act of civil disobedience.
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It takes no effort not to skydive. Or to not rock climb. Or to not ride a motorcycle. Or any number of the myriad things we do that put ourselves in danger any one of which can be as dangerous, if not more so, as driving without a seat belt.
 
Socrtease said:
It is the law in all 50 states. If you were to injure someone while breaking the law, they could sue you for negligence per se. That means that merely by breaking the law, your wrong act was negligent on it's face. Driving without a seatbelt is a violation of the law and should be considered negligence on its face.
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WTF?!?!?! so I back in to a parked car not wearing a seatbelt, I should face a civil lawsuit for negligence? you're seriously fucked in the head over that, dude.
 
Or if you hit someone while using a cell phone?
IN the states that prohibit cell phone useage while driving.
 
Socrtease said:
I don't care if you wear your seat belt, but if you get hurt in an accident, your fault or not, without a seatbelt on, then NO ONE should have to pay for your injuries but you. And those hospital bills should also be collected by seizing property without ANY exemptions.
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Exactly, excellent post. Freedom comes with responsibility.
 
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