This man is called a racist by some. Perhaps this image will clarify the issue

charver said:
Then why did virtually every politician, outside the US, condemn his equivocation?
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It's called virtue signalling, as I'm sure you already knew.

charver said:
From my point of view he didn't want to condemn a section of the electorate who, whether he wanted their endorsemnet or not, supported him.
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Ayup lad.

Let me remind you that our president neither sought nor accepted any support from the noxious cretins that his political opponents have got themselves the vapors over.

Unlike your system with its snap elections and august political bodies like the Monster Raving Lunatic Party, we have only two real leadership choices every four years.

Hillary Clinton was so unappealing that she couldn't win against what the polite political establishment said was the most unfit individual to ever enter the hustings.

Did some certifiable nutters with repugnant views vote for him?

Probably. Nobody really knows, because of the secret ballot. If a neo-Nazi says they support the president, ask yourself why you would give that person any credence whatsoever.

Those who to try to smear the president with unproven allegations of guilt by association are asking others to assume a lot of things that they have no evidence for.

Now, as to you. Tha has even less sense than brass if you think your point of view merits serious consideration from those of us who are here, in the belly of the proverbial beast.

I'm always faintly amused when a denizen of what was a great world power assumes they have the moral standing to chide us for some imagined violation of the ethos that turned Britain into a politically irrelevant and increasingly perilous tourist destination.

Such gibes are even more piquant when they emanate from a provincial backwater where the yokels traded jobs in coal for the job center dole decades ago.

Be glad that some foreigners still (for the moment) use your capital city as an investment silo and tourist destination despite the troubling frequency of religious fanatics jumping kerbs and brandishing cutlery.

Many Americans choose not to welcome such immigrants unreservedly, because we have observed with sorrow the goings on in England and Europe.

Furthermore, centuries of colonialism, exploitation and genocide don't give you much of a moral leg up on anyone, my tracksuit-clad friend.

May I also remind your lordship that just a few years ago the once-mighty British could barely stave off a land grab by the fucking Argentinians and would be at the mercy of nearly any tinpot power on the planet without our protection.

The self-administered coup de grace of Brexit will soon put paid to any fanciful notions of financial prominence.

The miasma of Mohammedan mayhem currently washing over Britain should have alerted you to the folly of fearing to be thought offensive.

It has not, apparently, so you have Rotherham and the rest of the joys of embracing multiculturalism because you don't wish to seem rude.

It's amusing that you don't have more pressing matters to occupy your time at home, what with naughty Theresa romping through fields of wheat and all.

Now, fuck off.
 
Darth Omar said:
I wouldn't be so sure about the last part.

Like Stretch said, many people watched what was going on said to their dog 'WTF is wrong with these idiots?' All of them. Another thing I'm sure went through a lot of minds was 'why don't the cops clear the streets of these idiots before one of them kills someone'.

I guess there are two sets of people: one expects the president to play a sort of 'moral captain obvious' and condemn the Nazis in his first breath. I say that because it's taken as a given by most people that neo-Nazis, stand condemned.

And as it turns out, the two groups are equally condemnable. Antifa are communists who idiolize Stalin, Lenin and Mao. I don't see any moral distinction between the two groups---because there isn't any.

If I would criticize Trump for anything, it would be for not calling out the Charlottesville cops for standing down. If they wouldn't have lost control of the situation that young woman would probably still be alive.

Missing an opportunity to condemn Nazis, not so much.
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The police behaviour needs serious investigation, at best they were inept and at worst criminally negligent.
 
Threedee said:
I'm going to say "yes" to this. That said, do you have proof that Antifa are actual Marxists? I think they are generally viewed as anarchists.
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Communists killed up to 90 million people last century by some estimates.

Nazism was confined to Germany and Europe. Apart from pockets of loons that adhere to it here and there, Hitler's ideology never spread like communism.

I posted a link a few days ago on Antifa. They are unrepentant communists and they should be unequivocally marginalized---but they're not.

Even Trump has yet give a full-throated condemnation of Antifa---he must be a communist.
 
Darth Omar said:
Communists killed up to 90 million people last century by some estimates.

Nazism was confined to Germany and Europe. Apart from pockets of loons that adhere to it here and there, Hitler's ideology never spread like communism.

I posted a link a few days ago on Antifa. They are unrepentant communists and they should be unequivocally marginalized---but they're not.

Even Trump has yet give a full-throated condemnation of Antifa---he must be a communist.
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Nazism was defeated, otherwise it would have stretched across the globe, wiping out many more races than just the Jews (starting with the immediately accessible Slavic races). Communism simply outlasted Nazism (and Fascism) as a major force in the world.
 
Threedee said:
Nazism was defeated, otherwise it would have stretched across the globe, wiping out many more races than just the Jews (starting with the immediately accessible Slavic races). Communism simply outlasted Nazism (and Fascism) as a major force in the world.
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Reciting facts doesn't make communism better than Nazism.

I'll leave the turd lay there instead of looking for the clean end.
 
Corazón said:
The police behaviour needs serious investigation, at best they were inept and at worst criminally negligent.
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Consider who the governor is.

McAuliffe had a prolific fundraising career within the Democratic Party, and a personal and political relationship with Bill and Hillary Clinton. McAuliffe and his staff raised $275 million, then an unprecedented sum, for Clinton's causes while president. After Bill Clinton's tenure ended, McAuliffe guaranteed the Clintons' $1.35 million mortgage for their home in Chappaqua, New York. The deal raised ethical questions. In 2000, McAuliffe chaired a fundraiser with the Clintons; setting a fundraising record of $26.3 million.

He acknowledged that success of his business dealings stemmed partly from his relationship with Bill Clinton. He was on the board of directors of the Clinton Foundation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_McAuliffe

Consider who the mayor is.

Signer earned a Ph.D. in political science from the University of California, Berkeley. He founded the Coalition for Progress on Race, and went on to co-found the Center for the Study of Race and Law.

Signer wrote Demagogue: The Fight to Save Democracy from Its Worst Enemies.

He was statewide director for the 2004 program directed by the Democratic National Committee. He was a member of the finance committee for Terry McAuliffe for governor and later served as chair of Governor-elect McAuliffe's Transition Council. McAuliffe appointed him to the Council on Virginia's Future.

During Signer's tenure, the city required agencies to register voters to vote online.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Signer

Now ask yourself what those two would have to gain by preventing violence at an event where the opportunity existed to paint everyone who opposes removing statues as a murderous racist Nazi thug.
 
Darth Omar said:
Reciting facts doesn't make communism better than Nazism.

I'll leave the turd lay there instead of looking for the clean end.
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I spend a considerably greater amount of time focusing on the evils of Marxism rather than of Nazism. There are reasons for that, of course. There aren't too many ideologies for which my answer to adherents can be summed-up with two words ("kill yourselves"), but, these two fit the bill. That being said, I don't really see how you can compare any other ideology, to date, to the level of Nazism. Perhaps you can compare ISIL dis-favorably to it?
 
Threedee said:
I spend a considerably greater amount of time focusing on the evils of Marxism rather than of Nazism. There are reasons for that, of course. There aren't too many ideologies for which my answer to adherents can be summed-up with two words ("kill yourselves"), but, these two fit the bill. That being said, I don't really see how you can compare any other ideology, to date, to the level of Nazism. Perhaps you can compare ISIL dis-favorably to it?
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You seem determined to ignore the well-documented Marxist origins of Antifa. They don't try to conceal it.

Why do you?
 
Threedee said:
I spend a considerably greater amount of time focusing on the evils of Marxism rather than of Nazism. There are reasons for that, of course. There aren't too many ideologies for which my answer to adherents can be summed-up with two words ("kill yourselves"), but, these two fit the bill. That being said, I don't really see how you can compare any other ideology, to date, to the level of Nazism. Perhaps you can compare ISIL dis-favorably to it?
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ISIS is comparable to Nazism in the sense both are rooted, at least in part, in supremacy---Muslim supremacy in the first instance and Aryan supremacy in the other. Hitler was rather fond of Islam and some Middle East Muslim leaders, as you may know.

Communists and Marxists are different in that sense. Probably the only way to judge between Nazism, Islamism [the supremacist ideology, not the religion, per se] and communism is to quantify their death counts.

Communists win by a wide stretch. Any group on the scene that idioloizes Lenin & co, particularly, if they are prone to violence, needs to be condemned right along---and in equal measure---with the Nazis.

But they aren't. Why?
 
Darth Omar said:
ISIS is comparable to Nazism in the sense both are rooted, at least in part, in supremacy---Muslim supremacy in the first instance and Aryan supremacy in the other. Hitler was rather fond of Islam and some Middle East Muslim leaders, as you may know.

Communists and Marxists are different in that sense. Probably the only way to judge between Nazism, Islamism [the supremacist ideology, not the religion, per se] and communism is to quantify their death counts.

Communists win by a wide stretch. Any group on the scene that idioloizes Lenin & co, particularly, if they are prone to violence, needs to be condemned right along---and in equal measure---with the Nazis.

But they aren't. Why?
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They aren't, because, the goal of Nazism was literally to wipe-out most of the world's population. Neither the Marxists nor the Islamists really seem to hold that as a particular goal.
 
Threedee said:
Because Nazis and White Nationalists are worse than Antifa. Besides that, there will be plenty of opportunities to condemn Antifa in the coming days as they attempt to burn more college campuses to the ground.
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OH, so the left is to be excused; because they're just not as bad, according to your opinion. :palm:
 
Threedee said:
You can go back and read through the threads that were generated in response to the Milo protests at Berkeley, if you think that.
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But you must disavow early and often, which is what the left demands of Trump.

Disavow Antifa now.

Acknowledge that they are as repugnant as the racists and neo-Nazis.

I'm betting that you wont.
 
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