This is one seriously depressing election

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John Boner used to, as well. He just wasn't expecting the whole Teabaggermania trip.

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I am going to need you to cry harder
 
sad....so how many children do the Brits murder a year?......it averages around a million here......
It is around 185,000 per year. Don't get me wrong I hate abortion and wish there was no need for it but I am not about to tell a woman what to do about her body. I would also imagine a lot of those are women from Ireland, both North and South, where abortion is severely restricted.

Of course, you do realise that if the same thing happened in the US then women would just go to Canada, Europe, or maybe even Cuba. If you want to curtail abortion then make contraception free for the poor at least.

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Democrats blew it this year, big time. Just about any other candidate would probably beat Trump handily. Hillary is the one political figure on the left who those on the right have a truly vitriolic reaction to.


I think the Republicans had more better alternatives. Dick Cheney is about the only other Republican that would have had this much trouble with Hillary.
 
Why? Are condoms more expensive then french fries?


IDK, they are cheaper, more effective and less invasive than trying to regulate the later stages of reproduction. But then the "less invasive" part spoils the fun for most pro lifers.
 
A logical fallacy- assigning motive without cause.


It's an aside and not actually a part of my argument, which you did not address.

It's obvious that the easiest way to reduce abortion is through better contraception. You don't need judges or to support some horrible person like Trump to do it either.

Outlawing abortion will cost a lot more than french fries and won't eliminate abortions.
 
Why? Are condoms more expensive then french fries?
You also have to ensure that all children get sex education at school and teenage girls have access to the morning after pill. Adults should have free vasectomies, sterilisation and birth control education available. If you don't do those things then how can complain about the high levels of abortion?

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Of course, you do realise that if the same thing happened in the US then women would just go to Canada, Europe, or maybe even Cuba. If you want to curtail abortion then make contraception free for the poor at least.


Well, in our system their only hope is to overturn Roe v Wade, which would then only return the matter to the states. Women would not need to leave the country just go to California or some other state.


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You also have to ensure that all children get sex education at school and teenage girls have access to the morning after pill. Adults should have free vasectomies, sterilisation and birth control education available. If you don't do those things then how can complain about the high levels of abortion?

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All free of course. Yet condoms are $11 for two dozen at Walmart.
 
It's an aside and not actually a part of my argument, which you did not address.

It's obvious that the easiest way to reduce abortion is through better contraception. You don't need judges or to support some horrible person like Trump to do it either.

Outlawing abortion will cost a lot more than french fries and won't eliminate abortions.

Your "argument" included demonization of your opposition. Until you address this issue with yourself there is no point for me to go further than that.
 
Your "argument" included demonization of your opposition. Until you address this issue with yourself there is no point for me to go further than that.


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Okay, I will address it. Many pro lifers are not concerned about reducing abortions. They only want to control/influence the sexual behavior of women. That's why they discourage or, as you do, blow off contraception. Contraception liberates the woman and does not serve their goal. If the woman faces the threat of pregnancy they believe that will discourage promiscuity.

Some even still want to deny their kids the HPV vaccine because they hope it will make their children less inclined to engage in sexual activity. The threat of cervical cancer is used the same way as the threat of pregnancy. I presume they will let women treat the cervical cancer.

https://rewire.news/article/2012/10...nsive-argument-that-gets-repeated-and-debunk/
 
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Okay, I will address it. Many pro lifers are not concerned about reducing abortions. They only want to control/influence the sexual behavior of women. That's why they discourage or, as you do, blow off contraception. Contraception liberates the woman and does not serve their goal. If the woman faces the threat of pregnancy they believe that will discourage promiscuity.

Some even still want to deny their kids the HPV vaccine because they fear it will then make their children less inhibited to engage in sexual activity. The threat of cervical cancer is used the same way as the threat of pregnancy. I presume they will let women treat the cervical cancer.

https://rewire.news/article/2012/10...nsive-argument-that-gets-repeated-and-debunk/

I'm not going to research or argue against your point at all because I don't have to. On any given issue, there are always fringe groups on both sides with views that don't represent the majority of the groups. So for you to claim that this fringe represents my opinion, or the majority of the pro-life movement, is a non-starter.
 
All free of course. Yet condoms are $11 for two dozen at Walmart.

And yet "pro lifers" have wasted 40 years and likely trillions of dollars on overturning Roe v Wade and harassing doctors/women. Is that, fiscally conservative or is it the real point?
 
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