This is one seriously depressing election

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Dick from the Internet said:
Just think how much the Catholic church alone could do (or have already done) to reduce unwanted pregnancy and therefore abortions if it used it's considerable resources to promote/research contraception.

Sanger brought us the pill through her private efforts to fund research. The Pope says to pull out, at best. Who is more responsible for the abortions?
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Their are already methods of contraception that are well over 90% effective.....what could the Catholic Church possibly do to advance that....they promote abstinence .... that is 100% effective....http://www.ashasexualhealth.org/pdfs/ContraceptiveOptions.pdf

Who is more responsible for the abortions?

Obviously its those that refuse to take advantage of the what is already available.....even the common male condom is 74% effective....so that alone could prevent 74% of the abortions of convenience....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
actually it implies it was passed by a majority of votes from elected officials....but then you were too stupid to know that.......
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No, "by popular demand" implies the general public called for it. But you have conceded that it was not passed due to the wishes of the general public but those of some elected officials.
 
NOVA said:
Their are already methods of contraception that are well over 90% effective.....what could the Catholic Church possibly do to advance that....they promote abstinence .... that is 100% effective....http://www.ashasexualhealth.org/pdfs/ContraceptiveOptions.pdf
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"Abstinence only" education is not 100% effective or effective at all.

The Catholic church could advance birth control by making it more affordable/free or even by just suggesting that it be used rather than attacking it. It could also fund research into more effective and more convenient forms of birth control with fewer side effects.

NOVA said:
Who is more responsible for the abortions?

Obviously its those that refuse to take advantage of the what is already available.
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Like Catholics?
 
Dick from the Internet said:
No, "by popular demand" implies the general public called for it. But you have conceded that it was not passed due to the wishes of the general public but those of some elected officials.
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abortion was imposed on society by the idiocy of five men.......since then sixty million children have died......I don't think things have gone well for those five in the afterlife....
 
They are both best at what they do. Don from the private sector, and Hill from the public. Both are stars. Both have made their way to the top. Love them or hate them, there is actually good reason they are both top of the ticket; like it or not.

And I say this with utter contempt for the both of them.
 
Dick from the Internet said:
"Abstinence only" education is not 100% effective or effective at all.

The Catholic church could advance birth control by making it more affordable/free or even by just suggesting that it be used rather than attacking it. It could also fund research into more effective and more convenient forms of birth control with fewer side effects.

Like Catholics?
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Now I get it, you hate Catholics...probably Jews and Blacks, too right....

The Church is not promoting 'education'....they are promoting abstinence....Abstinence is 100% effective.....unless you too believe in an Immaculate Conception....and the Church don't sell contraceptives....if don't believe in their tenets, don't become a Catholic...

I have no business in your sex life or anyone else's,,,THEREFORE, I will not pay for your contraception.....If you can convince some religious group to do it, fine with me.....just don't ever think I will support my tax money being spent on your careless fucking....abortion is legal, have as many as you want...and you can pay for that too...
Have kids and can't or won't take care 'em ?.....Go to fuckin' jail and let the taxpayers care for 'em....I'll pay taxes for that as long the
worthless parents are locked up
 
Thing1 said:
I mean, I can tell that even the "defend party at all costs" partisans are mailing it in this time.

Such a drag. I know that there ARE people who are genuinely enthusiastic about Trump & the same for Hillary, but I genuinely don't understand either group. I mean, I even understood enthusiasm for GW, because as lame as he was, he at least had a simple & consistent conservative message.

But these are completely uncharted waters. Two incredibly flawed, dishonest candidates, both of whom will basically say anything to get elected. If you're gung ho about either, you really need to take a look at the kind of bar you're setting. No one should be excited about this election.
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trashing hilary
 
Thing1 said:
I mean, I can tell that even the "defend party at all costs" partisans are mailing it in this time.

Such a drag. I know that there ARE people who are genuinely enthusiastic about Trump & the same for Hillary, but I genuinely don't understand either group. I mean, I even understood enthusiasm for GW, because as lame as he was, he at least had a simple & consistent conservative message.

But these are completely uncharted waters. Two incredibly flawed, dishonest candidates, both of whom will basically say anything to get elected. If you're gung ho about either, you really need to take a look at the kind of bar you're setting. No one should be excited about this election.
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