They said he’d never be released!

[T. A. Gardner]

I think the lefts establishment of civil rights, the womens' right to vote and voting rights are pretty good ideas and still are, if your cult would just let these things happen.

I don't disagree. But what happens on the Left is they pervert those things into privilege for some oppression for others in the name of what they call "equal rights." Their version of "equal rights" is really equal outcomes, not equal opportunity or rights.

So, "the left" is responsible for respecting the wishes of a native American tribe. You've lost your way, my friend.

No, the Left is using the tribes to get their way. I've seen it repeatedly here. Every time the Left loses on one of these environmental issues they find some tribe members to claim whatever is on "sacred ground" and claim that whatever the issue is has to be stopped because of it.

I also have seen the second the tribe(s) can make a profit off of whatever the issue is, the leadership comes down hard on the ones protesting and quashes their opposition. Seems the tribal leaders are Capitalists after all.

They opposed Kitt Peak National Observatory, then Mt Graham Observatory. They opposed the south side of loop 202 in Phoenix and once the freeway was finished the tribe (Gila River in this case) wasted no time in building a "sacred" casino next to it, then put up the "sacred" billboards along it in numbers that the state would never allow off of tribal land. Now it's the Resolution copper mine. My bet is if the San Carlos Apachie tribe got say 1/2% of the mine's profit they'd shut up and crush the Apachie Stronghold group in a day.

What the tribes want is a cut of the action, not some ephemeral "sacred" something or another. That's just their excuse for getting involved because they have nothing else to work with.

 

[Earl]

You are either an idiot or in oblivious denial

https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1396906/dl

Starting on pg 8 you'll find a cover letter telling Garcia that the Immigration courts found him deportable and that he has 30 days to appeal the decision, dated to 2019.

Then what follows is Garcia appealed the finding he was an MS 13 gang member and that was ruled against letting that finding stand.

So, he had his hearing. Was found to be an MS 13 gang member and ordered deported. He appealed and the ruling was left to stand meaning he could be deported as an MS 13 gang member.

.The Kewpie boy is never right. He either lies or is stupid or both.

 

[Nordberg]

ICE and Trump are flat out wrong. All persons in the US are entitled to due process of law. That is exactly what Trump is ignoring. You do not grab people off the streets. Trumpys should be ashamed and fear what they are doing to the Constitution.

 

[volsrocks]

Trump said he's never going to be released, you ignorant assclown.

Why are you such a fool?

Trump administration says Kilmar Ábrego García will 'never go free' on American soil

US Homeland Security, which says he'll "never go free on American soil", is expected to keep him detained for immigration reasons.

www.bbc.com

"The Trump administration said a Salvadoran man who was mistakenly deported and then brought back to the US on criminal charges will "never go free" on American soil, even though a judge ordered his release."

will "never go free" on American soil

He is not FREE he is out on house arrest pending criminal trial with a GPS tracker on


That is not FREE u stupid MS-13 lover

 

[volsrocks]

ICE and Trump are flat out wrong. All persons in the US are entitled to due process of law. That is exactly what Trump is ignoring. You do not grab people off the streets. Trumpys should be ashamed and fear what they are doing to the Constitution.

He had due process in 2019 two Judges ruled he was a member of MS13


But the judge who presided over his 2019 case said that based on the confidential information, there was sufficient evidence to support Mr Abrego Garcia's gang membership. That finding was later upheld by another judge.

Kilmar Abrego Garcia and MS-13: What is alleged and what we know

BBC Verify looks at the evidence behind allegations that the Salvadoran mistakenly deported to a mega-prison was a dangerous gang member.

www.bbc.com

You MS-13 lovers just ignore the 2019 due process he got

2 Judges ruled he was a member of MS-13 and deportable to anywhere in the world except El Salvador

 

[FastLane]

.The Kewpie boy is never right. He either lies or is stupid or both.

BOTH!

 

[Jarod]

You are either an idiot or in oblivious denial

https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1396906/dl

Starting on pg 8 you'll find a cover letter telling Garcia that the Immigration courts found him deportable and that he has 30 days to appeal the decision, dated to 2019.

Then what follows is Garcia appealed the finding he was an MS 13 gang member and that was ruled against letting that finding stand.

So, he had his hearing. Was found to be an MS 13 gang member and ordered deported. He appealed and the ruling was left to stand meaning he could be deported as an MS 13 gang member.

 

[volsrocks]

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But the judge who presided over his 2019 case said that based on the confidential information, there was sufficient evidence to support Mr Abrego Garcia's gang membership. That finding was later upheld by another judge.

 

[Nordberg]

He had due process in 2019 two Judges ruled he was a member of MS13


But the judge who presided over his 2019 case said that based on the confidential information, there was sufficient evidence to support Mr Abrego Garcia's gang membership. That finding was later upheld by another judge.

Kilmar Abrego Garcia and MS-13: What is alleged and what we know

BBC Verify looks at the evidence behind allegations that the Salvadoran mistakenly deported to a mega-prison was a dangerous gang member.

www.bbc.com

You MS-13 lovers just ignore the 2019 due process he got

2 Judges ruled he was a member of MS-13 and deportable to anywhere in the world except El Salvador

Not true. He was pulled off the streets not knowing or caring who he was. He committed the sin of being brown in Trump's bigoted America.
Due process refers to what ICE did and is doing. He was not given the rights guaranteed in the Constitution, Trump's toilet paper roll.

 

[Diesel]

I find it incredible that these far left loons defend this piece of garbage.

This is why they lost last November and will continue to lose.

It’s un-American to support people like Garcia.

"far left loons"

Polly wanna cracker?

 

[Jarod]

But the judge who presided over his 2019 case said that based on the confidential information, there was sufficient evidence to support Mr Abrego Garcia's gang membership. That finding was later upheld by another judge.

 

[volsrocks]

Not true. He was pulled off the streets not knowing or caring who he was. He committed the sin of being brown in Trump's bigoted America.
Due process refers to what ICE did and is doing. He was not given the rights guaranteed in the Constitution, Trump's toilet paper roll.

He committed the act of crossing the border by bypasses a port of entry to enter the U.S. without inspection

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Not true. He was pulled off the streets not knowing or caring who he was. He committed the sin of being brown in Trump's bigoted America.
Due process refers to what ICE did and is doing. He was not given the rights guaranteed in the Constitution, Trump's toilet paper roll.

 

[Damocles]

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/22/us/politics/abrego-garcia-free-maryland.html

Abrego Garcia out of jail!

Indeed. Congratulations.

 

[LurchAddams]

I don't disagree. But what happens on the Left is they pervert those things into privilege for some oppression for others in the name of what they call "equal rights." Their version of "equal rights" is really equal outcomes, not equal opportunity or rights.

No, the Left is using the tribes to get their way.

Then I take it the tribe is protesting - asking to be left alone?

I've seen it repeatedly here. Every time the Left loses on one of these environmental issues they find some tribe members to claim whatever is on "sacred ground" and claim that whatever the issue is has to be stopped because of it.

I don't doubt that some environmental lobbying groups are corrupt. But to paint them all that way is not wise.

I also have seen the second the tribe(s) can make a profit off of whatever the issue is, the leadership comes down hard on the ones protesting and quashes their opposition. Seems the tribal leaders are Capitalists after all.

Oh, no. The people our ancestors tried to genocide get a windfall every once in a while? How dare they!!!!

They opposed Kitt Peak National Observatory, then Mt Graham Observatory. They opposed the south side of loop 202 in Phoenix and once the freeway was finished the tribe (Gila River in this case) wasted no time in building a "sacred" casino next to it, then put up the "sacred" billboards along it in numbers that the state would never allow off of tribal land. Now it's the Resolution copper mine. My bet is if the San Carlos Apachie tribe got say 1/2% of the mine's profit they'd shut up and crush the Apachie Stronghold group in a day.

What the tribes want is a cut of the action, not some ephemeral "sacred" something or another. That's just their excuse for getting involved because they have nothing else to work with.

Which they rightfully deserve, given our banishment of all of them to "reservations", which are pretty much gilded prisons full of hopelessness, alcoholism and drug abuse - basically, like Cental City, AZ.

 

[LurchAddams]

will "never go free" on American soil

He is not FREE he is out on house arrest pending criminal trial with a GPS tracker on


That is not FREE u stupid MS-13 lover

I don't love MS 13, which Garcia is not you sorry, Nazi, lying, gaslighting, mindless fuck.

 

[Damocles]

Duude... Deporting people who don't even speak the language to Uganda has GOT to be a violation of the 8th Amendment.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Then I take it the tribe is protesting - asking to be left alone?

No, some tribal members who are long-time radical Leftist protesters, like the founding 'member' of Apachie Stronghold Wendsler Nosie who has a long history of protesting anything the "White men" do, are the ones using their tribal affiliation to try and stop the mine, just as Nosie did for telescopes on Mt. Graham for example.

Apache-Stronghold

I don't doubt that some environmental lobbying groups are corrupt. But to paint them all that way is not wise.

Most aren't corrupt, just stupid. Go through the membership and you see that. Ill-informed liberal arts types with no scientific or engineering background whatsoever arguing against something because they don't like it or out of NIMBYism.

Oh, no. The people our ancestors tried to genocide get a windfall every once in a while? How dare they!!!!

That's just a smear. It's not like the history of Native Americans v. European settlers is one-sided.

Which they rightfully deserve, given our banishment of all of them to "reservations", which are pretty much gilded prisons full of hopelessness, alcoholism and drug abuse - basically, like Cental City, AZ.

I'm not a fan of what amounts to 'American Apartheid.'

 

[volsrocks]

I don't love MS 13, which Garcia is not you sorry, Nazi, lying, gaslighting, mindless fuck.

A Judge and a appellate Judge(court) says he is. MS-13 loving POS

 

[AProudLefty]

Duude... Deporting people who don't even speak the language to Uganda has GOT to be a violation of the 8th Amendment.

That's my take as well.