Do you ever inform yourself?
Does the sissy boy's hair still turn you on?
They said he’d never be released!
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Do you ever inform yourself?
Does the sissy boy's hair still turn you on?
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
The actual paperwork, which I posted, shows otherwise.
Oh, and Garcia is now in ICE custody. They picked him up and tossed him back in jail to await deportation and / or his trial. The guy is doomed. He's getting deported eventually as an MS 13 gang member and human smuggler. No amount of hand wringing by the Leftist MSM is going to save him from that.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
With laughter...
He is turned on by the sissy boy’s hair.
I bet Wes would not walk around in some areas of Baltimore without a gun or security.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
I wonder... What brand of super glue does Newsome use to hold his hair in place? Inquiring minds want to know!
It would be better to create memes where Newsom was fiddling while LA burned and Karen Bass danced. Focus on his failures rather than how much he looks like he was cast as the Evil Presidential Candidate in a modern movie.
QP!
Verified User
No it DOES NOT. You are lying again.
You cannot quote anything that shows it and you won't.
they got the equivalent of 'holding someone without bail' based on uneducated statements that convinced a judge or magistrate that the person should be held prior to them going thru the system and getting their due process (hearing or trial).
There is nothing, ZERO, that infers guilt in that. It is not a verdict and everything used to get the order to hold him could prove to be a lie after the fact.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
QP!
Verified User
At least Gavin is in good shape.
Unlike the fetish that requires you to add a fan fiction version of this guy in your mind as you cannot deal with the real thing...
QP!
Verified User
Yes i read it and it shows you are LYING.
Again you will not QUOTE a single thing to support your lie as you CANNOT.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
From pg 6:
GANG VALIDATION:
Per Prince Georges County Police Gang Unit Abrego-Garcia was validated as a member of the Mara Salvatrucha (MSl3} Gang. Subject was identified as a member of the Mara Salvatrucha MS-13, 11 Chequeo11 from the Western Clique a transnational criminal street gang. This information was provided by provided truthful accurate information in the past. See Prince Georges County Police Department (Gang Sheet).
He is an MS 13 member in the eyes of the government. His denials mean nothing legally at this point.
IMMIGRATION CHARGE:
Abrego-Garcia has made no claims to USC or LPR and is amenable to removal under 212(a) (6) {A) (i) of the Immigration and Nationali.ty Act, as amended, in that Abrego-Garcia is an alien present in the United States without being admitted or paroled, or who arrived in the United States at any time or place other than as designated by the Attorney General.
He is deportable and has an order of deportation against him. His objection is to being deported to El-Salvador, his home country, because he knows he'll be tossed in CECOT as a gangster.
Pg 8
Enclosed is a copy of the Board's decision in the above-referenced case. This copy is being provided to you as a courtesy. Your attorney or representative has been served with this decision pursuant to 8 C.F.R. § 1292.S(a). If the attached decision orders that you be removed from the United States or affirms an Immigration Judge's decision ordering that you be removed, any petition for review of the attached decision must be filed with and received by the appropriate court of appeals within 30 days of the date of the decision.
He had his day in court and was found deportable. His only objection, as noted, was he feared he would be further prosecuted and incarcerated if returned to his nation of origin, El-Salvador because he's a member of MS 13.
QP!
Verified User
EXACTLY you have ZERO you can provide that shows any adjudicated proof.
What you keep quoting is the SAME as a cop saying 'Terry is a criminal and i saw him do crime', which is ENOUGH to get a warrant and even to detain Terry but it is NOTHING MORE until a trial is held.
And that cop could be lying or mistaken and that could be proven at trial.
You destroyed your own point.
QP!
Verified User
AI Summary:
No. Kilmar Abrego García was never formally found to be a member of MS-13 in any legitimate legal proceeding.
Here's what the public evidence shows:
No, Abrego García was never found to be an MS-13 member in any legal forum. At most, weaker claims about gang association were considered in immigration custody decisions, not in judicial findings or criminal convictions. Subsequent court rulings have affirmed the lack of sufficient evidence, and federal judges have ruled that the U.S. government failed to meet due process obligations in his case.
No. Kilmar Abrego García was never formally found to be a member of MS-13 in any legitimate legal proceeding.
Here's what the public evidence shows:
Court Findings & Due Process
- No criminal conviction or formal adjudication has ever declared Abrego García an MS-13 member. He has never been charged, tried, or convicted for gang membership. StatesmanThe GuardianPolitiFact
- In immigration bond hearings (which use a lower standard than criminal trials), a judge denied bond in 2019, finding the government’s assertion—that a confidential informant claimed he was affiliated with MS-13—was “trustworthy enough” for custody purposes. These are not legal findings of guilty any more than being held on bond prior to trial is a finding of guilt. The findings were upheld on appeal. However, such rulings do not equate to legal confirmation of membership. PolitiFact+1
Judicial Review and Protections
- Federal courts, including the Fourth Circuit, made clear that the government had not proven any gang affiliation. Judges described the evidence as "thin, to say the least," criticizing reliance on clothing or a single informant report. PolitiFactKSATAl Jazeera
- Judge Paula Xinis ruled that labeling Abrego Garcia a gang member exposed him to mortal danger upon deportation — indicating the lack of credible evidence and the unlawfulness of his removal. FactCheck.orgWikipediaTIME
Public Statements vs. Legal Reality
- Various officials, including former Vice President J.D. Vance, have publicly labeled Abrego García an MS-13 member. But multiple fact-checks and court opinions confirmed these statements are unsubstantiated and factually misleading. PolitiFact+1The Guardian
Bottom Line
No, Abrego García was never found to be an MS-13 member in any legal forum. At most, weaker claims about gang association were considered in immigration custody decisions, not in judicial findings or criminal convictions. Subsequent court rulings have affirmed the lack of sufficient evidence, and federal judges have ruled that the U.S. government failed to meet due process obligations in his case.
He went to immigration court and was cleared to enter.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Those are the government's official findings from his criminal record and court PSI (Pre-Sentencing Investigation). They are a summary of the court's findings. He has been adjudicated a gang member and a foreign national illegally in the US and deportable. The ONLY issue on the table is where he gets deported to. That's it. He's finished and he's going away to somewhere other than the US.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
QP!
Verified User
No they are not "findings" of guilt of any kind. You are LYING. They are findings of the sufficiency to hold him pending him getting a hearing for deportation as part of his due process.
Again you lying as this DOES negate your lies about what the court finding say with citations included.
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- No criminal conviction or formal adjudication has ever declared Abrego García an MS-13 member. He has never been charged, tried, or convicted for gang membership. StatesmanThe GuardianPolitiFact
- In immigration bond hearings (which use a lower standard than criminal trials), a judge denied bond in 2019, finding the government’s assertion—that a confidential informant claimed he was affiliated with MS-13—was “trustworthy enough” for custody purposes. These are not legal findings of guilty any more than being held on bond prior to trial is a finding of guilt. The findings were upheld on appeal. However, such rulings do not equate to legal confirmation of membership. PolitiFact+1
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