The Woody Allen Allegations: Not So Fast

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I feel like the list in the OP is manipulative. It creates the repetition of "false" about assumptions that aren't really that consequential, almost as if to get a repetitive pattern going in someone's head, so they just keep thinking all assumptions & allegations are false.

I don't know what happened w/ the latest allegations, and I don't really care that Mia Farrow's adopted daughter wasn't Woody's "daughter." Everything about that whole situation creeps me out.

I also don't like the "circle the wagons" mentality that Hollywood adopts in these cases, especially when those efforts go toward discrediting the person making the accusation.
 
christiefan915 said:
I have to disagree with #3. There are most definitely people who would sink that low to win a custody battle. In fact, I knew a woman who was going to do it although she was going to have the son claim physical, not sexual abuse.
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that's REALLY fucked up, and it scares me that it seems one doesn't have to search very far for anecdotal stories about this stuff. I bet it's more common than people think. (though I don't know HOW common)

Yeah, people will do a lot of crazy shit to keep their kids. Doesn't surprise me.
 
Damocles said:
He pleaded guilty and ran away because he knew he was due punishment for his serious crime. What do you need to show guilt in your world? Do you have to have video, or would that just be "faked" because Polanski said it was? I wouldn't spit on Polanski if he was on fire.
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Yet Samantha Geimer says that he is the real victim, given a choice I would go along with her. I don't disagree that what he did was pretty sleazy but if she is prepared to forgive and what's more is in regular contact with him. What purpose, other than revenge, does it serve to pursue him after all this time?

I might also point out that her mother has a fair degree of culpability as well. How else can you explain her giving permission by telephone for her daughter to be photographed in a jacuzzi unchaperoned?

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/...ed-13-Roman-Polanski-say-hes-real-victim.html
 
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Ghost of Watermark said:
that's REALLY fucked up, and it scares me that it seems one doesn't have to search very far for anecdotal stories about this stuff. I bet it's more common than people think. (though I don't know HOW common)

Yeah, people will do a lot of crazy shit to keep their kids. Doesn't surprise me.
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I fear there is much that you need to learn about people when they are in situations like child custody, anybody that has children understands the emotions involved. It not surprising that Darla and SF don't either.
 
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christiefan915 said:
Tough call. Example, in some murder cases the victim's family might say "I forgive you" to the murderer but the person still does the time. In Polanski's case he was never really punished, many in the industry actually came to his defense, he fled the country and continued to live the high life and make movies abroad.

Then his victim [Geimer] said that the judge "didn't care what happened" to her or Polanski, but "was orchestrating some little show,"[SUP][111][/SUP] while Gunson added, "I'm not surprised that Polanski left under those circumstances, . . . it was going to be a real circus."

There was actually documentary of the case that won awards in Europe. Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired

It's all just so sleazy.
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Sorry Christie, this was not "sleazy", nor is it a tough call.

WHat polanski did would have been rape even if the victim had been 30.

She said no.

As it is, he fed a 13 yo child qualudes and then raped her vaginally, orally, and anally. Each time she said no no no, I don't want to do this, no please no.

That's rape. Now as every rapist's friend Tom points out, no one died.

I bet Tom wouldn't be so cavilier if someone did that to one of his son's.

But this was just a bitch, and that's what all their holes are for.

However, let's be clear on exactly what happened here.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
I fear there is much that you need to learn about people when they are in situations like child custody, anybody that has children understands the emotions involved. It not surprising that Darla and SF don't either.
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This has nothing to do with emotions or having children or not. There are people of both genders who make up terrible accusations about the other parent in custody hearings. I am well aware.

However, that is not what happened here.

YOu are using this the same way you use false rape accusations. Because they happen, no one can ever really know if a rape occurred. That's not how this works.

Except to rape lovers.
 
Well, this was in interesting thread. I thought Tom might finally be taught a lesson, but instead he shall go on to advance a culture that punishes victims for another day.


I think it's an interesting day when you have to be thankful Damo and Superfreak are around. It really made me give a little laugh though, I have to say.
 
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Darla said:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/...ry-preponderance-of-evidence-as-the-standard/

Really really great piece for thoughtful people, that means not for rape lovers, rapists, and rapists' best friends.
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Oops! I almost forgot. The last time I posted an article written by this author, and forgot to add this disclaimer, it was left to Cawacko to point out "this woman seems to have opinions"...

Since I don't want to sneak anything by anyone, full disclosure: A woman wrote this article. This woman appears to hold opinions on various topics.
 
Darla said:
Oops! I almost forgot. The last time I posted an article written by this author, and forgot to add this disclaimer, it was left to Cawacko to point out "this woman seems to have opinions"...

Since I don't want to sneak anything by anyone, full disclosure: A woman wrote this article. This woman appears to hold opinions on various topics.
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Oh snap... Well, I don't want to read about her opinion of different kitchen utensils and whether kitchen floors should be heated for bare feet so... I'll give that article a miss then, eh? Thanks for the warning.

;)
 
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